Police make arrests as right-wing, anti-fascist groups rally in Portland

[daoyai]

I suspect we may be getting our news from different sources.  JT's summary sounds like Don Lemon or TYT, I check CNN as well as alternative news sources.  Have seen many, many video examples of antifa committing violence, attacking libertarian gatherings. ..... you won't see it on MSM.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, daoyai said:

I suspect we may be getting our news from different sources.  JT's summary sounds like Don Lemon or TYT, I check CNN as well as alternative news sources.  Have seen many, many video examples of antifa committing violence, attacking libertarian gatherings. ..... you won't see it on MSM.

Stop with the disingenuous games. 

I already acknowledged they've had violent tactics.

But nothing that rises to terrorism or plans to become terrorism.

 

[ArtHay]

 
 

Controls on prices and wages were in part meant to protect corporate profits. With so many Germans in uniform and increased demand for Labour resulting from war production wages would have skyrocketed without them.

Privatization was also used to reward the corporate friends of the Nazis of which there were many, another clue they weren’t socialists. Thyssen, who was an early supporter of Hitler and acted as a sort of ambassador to the German corporate elite, went from being one of many players in the German steel industry to controlling a majority.

The Nazis also passed a special law returning the full ownership of the Krupp heavy industrial works to the family of the same name.



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[canuckamuck]

14 minutes ago, ArtHay said:

Controls on prices and wages were in part meant to protect corporate profits. With so many Germans in uniform and increased demand for Labour resulting from war production wages would have skyrocketed without them.

Privatization was also used to reward the corporate friends of the Nazis of which there were many, another clue they weren’t socialists. Thyssen, who was an early supporter of Hitler and acted as a sort of ambassador to the German corporate elite, went from being one of many players in the German steel industry to controlling a majority.

The Nazis also passed a special law returning the full ownership of the Krupp heavy industrial works to the family of the same name.



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There is more in the link I posted about price fixing, but it was over the fair use allowance and got snipped.

The Nazis rewarding their Nazi friends with control of industry and the profits did not make the Nazis good socialists. It did however make them typical socialists. By rewarding the power circle with wealth and excess, and creating a ruthless totalitarian state in which genocides and acts of aggression were acceptable behavior. Socialism has a habit of promising equality and delivering oppression.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

There is more in the link I posted about price fixing, but it was over the fair use allowance and got snipped.

The Nazis rewarding their Nazi friends with control of industry and the profits did not make the Nazis good socialists. It did however make them typical socialists. By rewarding the power circle with wealth and excess, and creating a ruthless totalitarian state in which genocides and acts of aggression were acceptable behavior. Socialism has a habit of promising equality and delivering oppression.

I strongly advise you do not accuse  members of the American Nazi Party of being left wing or socialist, well not to their face anyway.

[rabas]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I strongly advise you do not accuse  members of the American Nazi Party of being left wing or socialist, well not to their face anyway.

Wiki on the American NAZI Party:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party

 

"Rockwell founded the organization as the World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists (WUFENS), but renamed it the American Nazi Party in 1960.

 

International affiliation:  World Union of National Socialists

 

Rockwell's second in command, Deputy Commander Matt Koehl   [...] also began emphasizing the positive aspects of National Socialism and the glories of a future all-white society.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, rabas said:

Wiki on the American NAZI Party:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party

 

"Rockwell founded the organization as the World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists (WUFENS), but renamed it the American Nazi Party in 1960.

 

International affiliation:  World Union of National Socialists

 

Rockwell's second in command, Deputy Commander Matt Koehl   [...] also began emphasizing the positive aspects of National Socialism and the glories of a future all-white society.

So you  think National Socialism is 'Socialism'.

 

Doh!

[Jingthing]

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So you  think National Socialism is 'Socialism'.

 

Doh!

That's a tiresome pathetic game some right wingers play because they want to deflect the obvious connection between extremist white supremacy ideology (Nazis are but one example) and the right wing and hurl it to the left wing. 

[canuckamuck]

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's a tiresome pathetic game some right wingers play because they want to deflect the obvious connection between extremist white supremacy ideology (Nazis are but one example) and the right wing and hurl it to the left wing. 

White supremacy is a red herring. There are very few people who fit into the category of white supremacist. Despite the left believing there is a white supremacist behind every rock and bush, and even are suspicious of folks who wave the stars and stripes.

Now people who are anti white are numerous these days. Many of them are white. None of them are on the right. This is the result of years of race bating, identity politics and victim worship. Antifa is the violent child of all of that subversion.

[canuckamuck]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I strongly advise you do not accuse  members of the American Nazi Party of being left wing or socialist, well not to their face anyway.

I doubt I'll ever meet one. I never have so far.

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

White supremacy is a red herring. There are very few people who fit into the category of white supremacist. Despite the left believing there is a white supremacist behind every rock and bush, and even are suspicious of folks who wave the stars and stripes.

Now people who are anti white are numerous these days. Many of them are white. None of them are on the right. This is the result of years of race bating, identity politics and victim worship. Antifa is the violent child of all of that subversion.

No it isn't regardless of what that buffoon Tucker Carlson may say. 

 

 

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Last week, President Trump repeated his absurd claim that he had never called the Nazi protesters who descended on Charlottesville in 2017 “very fine people.” On Saturday, yet another white-supremacist attack, on a synagogue in California, demonstrated the point that Trump and his allies wish to obscure: Right-wing terrorism is a more extreme version of Trump’s own political style. It draws inspiration from his ideas and some measure of protection from his political power.

nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/trump-white-supremacist-terrorism-synagogue-mosque-shooting.html

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, canuckamuck said:

I doubt I'll ever meet one. I never have so far.

On the basis of what you post I doubt you’d discern one if you did.