Thousands protest British PM Johnson's move to suspend parliament

[newatthis]

22 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

No, that's the whole point of that argument.

Imagine for a second he would be elected. And then imagine he would shut down parliament for 5 weeks in a very critical time.

People would be on the streets to protest against that - just like now.

Any elected leader should be scrutinized by parliament.

Boris is scared of parliament. And for a reason. He should be scared! 

It's only an extra 6 days, isn't it? Where do you get 5 weeks from?

[sn1per]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It seems baseless accusations are a thing on the right.

My view is not on the right at all, read the banners, they have socialist workers party printed on them, I have a close relative who attends a lot of these marches, so I can speak from first hand expierience with this.

Edited September 1, 2019 by sn1per

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, sn1per said:

My view is not on the right at all, read the banners, they have socialist workers party printed on them, I have a close relative who attends a lot of these marches, so I can speak from first hand expierience with this.

I think a good way to find out would be to talk to somebody who took part in one of the marches.

 

it would give you the firsthand experience of which you speak.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2019 by Chomper Higgot

[OneMoreFarang]

7 minutes ago, newatthis said:

It's only an extra 6 days, isn't it? Where do you get 5 weeks from?

[sn1per]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think a good way to find out would be to talk to somebody who took part in one of the marches.

 

it would give you the firsthand experience of which you speak.

 

 

Well he is at a festival this weekend, as are presumably a lot of others who normally march, this is probably why there weren't so many protesters out and about for this.... one love

[vogie]

15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

"Parliament was expected to take a break or "recess" anyway from roughly 13 September - 8 October.

Official dates for recess are not actually confirmed, so it is hard to have a definitive number on how many actual sitting days will be lost. However, in theory, it will be between three and eight parliamentary days."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49495575

[newatthis]

15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But Parliament was due to take a recess from 13 September to 7 October, wasn't it? So that part of the normal recess would have happened anyway.

[newatthis]

Sorry, Vogie. Same time typing.

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, newatthis said:

Sorry, Vogie. Same time typing.

Some remainers need telling twice anyway. ????????????

[jesimps]

2 hours ago, samran said:

Yes, taking back control by.....well, shutting down that uniquely British institution which gives you the control.

 

Makes perfect sense.

There's nothing for parliament to discuss anyway, the people voted to leave and the govt are taking us out on 1 Nov.

[neverceasetobeamazed]

"The Archbishop of Canterbury has called for Remainers to "stop whingeing" and accept the result of the Brexit referendum'.

The Most Rev Justin Welby said those who voted to stay in the EU must now "take seriously the fact that the majority voted Leave", stating: "We may not like it, but that is democracy."

 

For the first time in my life I agree with the Archbishop!

[evadgib]

Farage & Co have a rally in Colchester on Monday.

 

Here's what Doris Karloff says of Major: 

 

 

[jesimps]

1 hour ago, Basil B said:

Talking of making things up you can not get any better than that bus...

Cheeze, you lot srill banging on about that bus as though it was a commandment from god. Give people some credit for making their own minds up on the slogan.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, neverceasetobeamazed said:

"The Archbishop of Canterbury has called for Remainers to "stop whingeing" and accept the result of the Brexit referendum'.

The Most Rev Justin Welby said those who voted to stay in the EU must now "take seriously the fact that the majority voted Leave", stating: "We may not like it, but that is democracy."

 

For the first time in my life I agree with the Archbishop!

A man who believes in invisible spirits.

 

 

[flossie35]

6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Not sure these 2,000 assorted anti-democracy protesters can trump the 17.4 million Brits that actually voted to leave in the referendum?

The referendum was ADVISORY, ie it advised MPs who then have to decide whether or not it is in the national interest to take the advice. It is implicit that they can choose not to take it. Buffoon BJ seeks to prevent MPs from undertaking their duty in respect of the referendum. That is what is undemocratic. How would it be in the national interest to allow a no deal brexit when all the evidence suggests that would be a major disaster? Moreover (a) the referendum result was achieved with lies and fraud; (b) the promises held out in 2016 cannot be met; (c) 2016 is 3 years ago, since when we have a different and we hope a better informed electorate; (d) BJ has no mandate for no deal or indeed anything else, having been chosed by a miniscule group of unrepresentative people.

[jesimps]

53 minutes ago, evadgib said:

So why keep doing it?

Providing it stays peaceful I agree with you. Problem with the left is that it very rarely does.

[jesimps]

56 minutes ago, newatthis said:

It's only an extra 6 days, isn't it? Where do you get 5 weeks from?

There's nothing to discuss now that the people have voted to leave the EU, apart from the remoaners wanting to have a whinge.

Edited September 1, 2019 by jesimps

[jesimps]

16 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Farage & Co have a rally in Colchester on Monday.

 

Here's what Doris Karloff says of Major: 

 

 

Seem to recall it was something like bustards.

[DannyCarlton]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

And of course it's not about prorogation, it's all about stopping Brexit, can you imagine if Dominic Grieve was the PM and he was going to prorogue parliament to help stop Brexit, the streets would be as empty as Leeds on New Years Day.

So, Brexiteers wouldn't protest at that? I can assure you that they would and it would be far less peaceful. Tommy Robinson's thug army would be out in droves.

[vogie]

Just now, DannyCarlton said:

So, Brexiteers wouldn't protest at that? I can assure you that they would and it would be far less peaceful. Tommy Robinson's thug army would be out in droves.

When struggling bring out the Tommy Robinson racist card, please become more forum friendly!

[jesimps]

17 minutes ago, flossie35 said:

The referendum was ADVISORY, ie it advised MPs who then have to decide whether or not it is in the national interest to take the advice. It is implicit that they can choose not to take it. Buffoon BJ seeks to prevent MPs from undertaking their duty in respect of the referendum. That is what is undemocratic. How would it be in the national interest to allow a no deal brexit when all the evidence suggests that would be a major disaster? Moreover (a) the referendum result was achieved with lies and fraud; (b) the promises held out in 2016 cannot be met; (c) 2016 is 3 years ago, since when we have a different and we hope a better informed electorate; (d) BJ has no mandate for no deal or indeed anything else, having been chosed by a miniscule group of unrepresentative people.

On the contrary given that parliament has voted against a deal on three occasions and the EU refuse to renegotiate, I'd say that Boris has the perfect mandate for no deal.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, jesimps said:

On the contrary given that parliament has voted against a deal on three occasions and the EU refuse to renegotiate, I'd say that Boris has the perfect mandate for no deal.

Pray tell, who gave Johnson a mandate for no-deal?

[evadgib]

 

(The full interview is worth watching on a no news day)

[evadgib]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pray tell, who gave Johnson a mandate for no-deal?

"I'm Spartacus!" ????

[Thomas J]

Perhaps he could save the country by permanently shuttering Parliament.  I know no one is safe in the USA while its Congress is in session.  

Edited September 1, 2019 by Thomas J

[Sujo]

If its only a few days, so no big deal, then why shut down at all?

 

Do pollies need more holidays?

[nahkit]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not understanding the right to peaceful protest is an essential element of democracy is one thing.

 

Posting your misunderstanding on the Internet for all to see is something else.

A man who doesn't respect the fact that the majority of people who voted, voted in favour of leaving the EU, wants to tell us about democracy ????

[nahkit]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pray tell, who gave Johnson a mandate for no-deal?

Was it written on the ballot paper that a vote to leave excluded a no-deal?

[DannyCarlton]

1 hour ago, newatthis said:

It's only an extra 6 days, isn't it? Where do you get 5 weeks from?

Parliament recessed 9th September. Returns 14th October for Queens speech, followed by 2 days allocated to debating Queens speech.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, nahkit said:

A man who doesn't respect the fact that the majority of people who voted, voted in favour of leaving the EU, wants to tell us about democracy ????

Because of course democracy came to a shuddering halt on the morning of the referendum result.

 

Peaceful protest is part and parcel of the democratic process.