WhatsNext Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I have been looking for a used car and find a few on the facebook group for used cars in pattaya. Seen 3 sofar and all by Russians, the cars seem reasonable, the book shows 3 owners (bank, thai, company) and the prices are below usual. Since i know cars i can see they are accident free, but on all 3 the tires were almost done, the brakepads as well, and no documented service history. Milage 30-50k for a 5 year old which seems dubious but doesnt have to be. Also kitted out with as much "go faster plastic" as possible When asked it's the same story from 3 different people, "we have a company and replace the cars when they are about 5 years old" All 3 came to show me the car at my place, were friendly and funny enough all 3 came as a couple with the girl speaking reasonably english and a large smiling Russian bloke who doesn't. Anyone know whats going on or is it really legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Trust your gut... Personally, have nothing against Russians...but for me it does not pass the smell test...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Avoid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Russians stay within Russian community, shop in the same shops and live same kind of lives. Usually there would be a Thai who helps one, helps all. Most likely bought from the same dealer and this is why same kind of cars and paperwork. They do not take it to service because they do not know where and also men or friends do the basics. cheaper because they do not know prices and do not know where or how to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 If you are doing any kind of significant purchase go to bangkok and buy it you will save 10-20 percent which is generally the profit margin when items are bought and moved to pattaya for resale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, BestB said: Most likely bought from the same dealer and this is why same kind of cars and paperwork. They do not take it to service because they do not know where and also men or friends do the basics. cheaper because they do not know prices and do not know where or how to check. What? Why would anyone who's bought a car not know where to service a car? "cheaper because they do not know prices and do not know where or how to check". But you said that they buy the cars from a dealer, don't you think that would give them an idea of prices or how to check them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, losworld said: If you are doing any kind of significant purchase go to bangkok and buy it you will save 10-20 percent which is generally the profit margin when items are bought and moved to pattaya for resale. Just do not go to any tents , nothing but scams one way or another . Did a post not too long ago, all seemed legit till the pick up date , then keys missing or service book missing or rims magically changed or owner not available to sign the book but will do it later and so on, even finance with a bank but through a tent magically changes interest rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatsNext Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, BestB said: so they try to sell it privately at higher price based on what dealer told them which happens to be below average private sale asking price but more than dealers offer. I was thinking that myself a bit considering the number of Russians with 5/6 year old cars which seem to be ex lease or finance gone wrong. All 3 didn't want to go down much more on price and mentioned they had other cars if i wanted something cheaper. Seriously doubt they have a company using company cars and selling them off. Do think they try to flip cars as a source of income. Now only to find that dealer which sells 5 year old Nissan Almera's for 200k.. (with more body extensions than a body builder) Alternatively getting a base Yaris Ativ new for 459k with way more safety and 3 year warranty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, WhatsNext said: I was thinking that myself a bit considering the number of Russians with 5/6 year old cars which seem to be ex lease or finance gone wrong. All 3 didn't want to go down much more on price and mentioned they had other cars if i wanted something cheaper. Seriously doubt they have a company using company cars and selling them off. Do think they try to flip cars as a source of income. Now only to find that dealer which sells 5 year old Nissan Almera's for 200k.. (with more body extensions than a body builder) i would say there is a high probability they are flipping and probably buying at auction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, BestB said: Just do not go to any tents , nothing but scams one way or another . Did a post not too long ago, all seemed legit till the pick up date , then keys missing or service book missing or rims magically changed or owner not available to sign the book but will do it later and so on, even finance with a bank but through a tent magically changes interest rate yeah find a private seller who is one owner and has done maintenance the auctions are ridiculously high priced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, WhatsNext said: I was thinking that myself a bit considering the number of Russians with 5/6 year old cars which seem to be ex lease or finance gone wrong. All 3 didn't want to go down much more on price and mentioned they had other cars if i wanted something cheaper. Seriously doubt they have a company using company cars and selling them off. Do think they try to flip cars as a source of income. Now only to find that dealer which sells 5 year old Nissan Almera's for 200k.. (with more body extensions than a body builder) Alternatively getting a base Yaris Ativ new for 459k with way more safety and 3 year warranty If I had to guess I would say Russian car rentals . But new car is always a new car and takes away any worries ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, BestB said: If I had to guess I would say Russian car rentals . But new car is always a new car and takes away any worries ???? from what i understand there is a very HIGH probability that the odometer has been flipped back on many of the dealer sold motorbikes and cars in thailand. best to examine closely wear items such as upholstery, pedals, etc. to better ascertain the mileage and use of the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtlger Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Can't trut dem ruskies.....avoid at all cost! Case in point...Olympic doping scheme. Their government knew about it and even backed it. They live by the rule: Rules are made to be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 It very much sounds like a formula for flipping cars. A formula that they have had some degree of success with so they stick with it. If it is a money making flip game, one has to wonder if they have a work permit. But then of course, they could be in bed with the right people who protect them (no, not the English speaking gal who comes along with Big Smiley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, BestB said: Troll, do you know any Russians ? Speak any Russian? If the answer is a no, stop trolling on matters you have zero clue or understanding only takes little common sense to figure out they do go back to dealer who offers them a very low price being a dealer , so they try to sell it privately at higher price based on what dealer told them which happens to be below average private sale asking price but more than dealers offer. Sunbeam, you made a daft post which folk clearly have shown it was daft. So you have met Russians in Russia and elsewhere so these sellers must be fab and OK.....Amazing....???? PS. How you can call a bloke a troll when I actually thought you were with that strange post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, BestB said: Just do not go to any tents , nothing but scams one way or another . Did a post not too long ago, all seemed legit till the pick up date , then keys missing or service book missing or rims magically changed or owner not available to sign the book but will do it later and so on, even finance with a bank but through a tent magically changes interest rate You obviously don't realise there are some OK tents out there, that's how many stay in business because they are OK. One near me buys mainly from banks, has a setup with staff watching desktop screens searching bank stuff. They are out there, ask around.. Getting back to the OP, again I say buy new if you can, you will have a nice few years where you will not be involved...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, transam said: You obviously don't realise there are some OK tents out there, that's how many stay in business because they are OK. One near me buys mainly from banks, has a setup with staff watching desktop screens searching bank stuff. They are out there, ask around.. Getting back to the OP, again I say buy new if you can, you will have a nice few years where you will not be involved...???? You obviously do not have much of a clue on the matter. Otherwise you would have known the difference between tents and used car dealers ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 51 minutes ago, transam said: Sunbeam, you made a daft post which folk clearly have shown it was daft. So you have met Russians in Russia and elsewhere so these sellers must be fab and OK.....Amazing....???? PS. How you can call a bloke a troll when I actually thought you were with that strange post.. Once again , if you do not have a clue , best not to open your mouth at all ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, BestB said: Once again , if you do not have a clue , best not to open your mouth at all ???? Well, I class all second hand car dealers as Tents, saves confusion comrade....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, transam said: Well, I class all second hand car dealers as Tents, saves confusion comrade....???? That’s good to know what YOU class, and again shows how much you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, BestB said: That’s good to know what YOU class, and again shows how much you know. Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistral53 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 11:08 AM, flyingtlger said: Can't trut dem ruskies.....avoid at all cost! Case in point...Olympic doping scheme. Their government knew about it and even backed it. They live by the rule: Rules are made to be broken. There are countless posts on TV that regurgitate that exact sentiment - it comes down to the need to believe whatever you hear, read or see on MSM as the gospel. That is a seriously ill conceived approach in today's world of corporate manipulated news distribution. But it is the most convenient and least controversial bubble to live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 There are Russians in Pattaya selling cars that don't belong to them. Check ownership in registration document is genuine. Also check for any outstanding finance. Offered under normal price is often a sign of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The Ruskees love their cars. Case in point....the guy who stole John Wick's car. In the US the Russians love to be in the auto sales business. Fix up cars for resale. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The Ruskees love their cars. Case in point....the guy who stole John Wick's car. In the US the Russians love to be in the auto sales business. Fix up cars for resale. Carry on.My mums Moskivich seemed to go on and on! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 nine times out of ten no problem... but to cop the other one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Dietz Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, mistral53 said: There are countless posts on TV that regurgitate that exact sentiment - it comes down to the need to believe whatever you hear, read or see on MSM as the gospel. That is a seriously ill conceived approach in today's world of corporate manipulated news distribution. But it is the most convenient and least controversial bubble to live in. Found the Russian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickylongtime Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Hello I have the same or similar experience all the cars the price was very good, they want to come to me I pay then they send me the details and documents after, err no chance I think its a scam we don't know if there's any finance outstanding on the vehicle, I would buy from a friend but that's also not without risk, I would hate to get scammed out of my money, buyers beware ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amykat Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 They buy cars that have been totaled in accidents and are not meant to be put back on the road. Plastics?? Cover things up. Paperwork later, because no have?? Slightly cheaper than everyone else??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Do you really think this is a legitimate business in Thailand , when Russians try to sell you ? Mafia and all kind of nasty people are probably involved. Avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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