webfact Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Elon Musk says 'pedo guy' tweet did not suggest British cave diver was pedophile By Jonathan Stempel FILE PHOTO: SpaceX owner and Tesla CEO Elon Musk gestures during a conversation with legendary game designer Todd Howard (not pictured) at the E3 gaming convention in Los Angeles, California, U.S., June 13, 2019. REUTERS/Mike Blake (Reuters) - Elon Musk on Monday said he did not intend to accuse a British diver of pedophilia by branding him a "pedo guy" on Twitter, as the Tesla Inc chief executive sought to dismiss a defamation lawsuit. Musk posted the tweet, for which he later apologised, after Vernon Unsworth accused Musk in a CNN interview of grandstanding by offering to help Unsworth's diving team rescue 12 boys and their soccer coach from a Thailand cave in July 2018. Unsworth sued two months later in Los Angeles federal court, saying Musk falsely branded him a pedophile and child rapist. "'Pedo guy' was a common insult used in South Africa when I was growing up," Musk, 48, who was raised in Pretoria, said in a court filing. "It is synonymous with 'creepy old man' and is used to insult a person's appearance and demeanour. "I did not intend to accuse Mr. Unsworth of engaging in acts of pedophilia," Musk added. "In response to his insults in the CNN interview, I meant to insult him back by expressing my opinion that he seemed like a creepy old man." Musk also said his "off the record" August 2018 email to a BuzzFeed News reporter urging him to "stop defending child rapists" was based on a private investigator's report on Unsworth, and that he did not then know the statement was false. Unsworth has denied Musk's allegations, and has said he had shared a house in the Thailand countryside with a 40-year-old woman who owned a nail salon. L. Lin Wood, a lawyer for Unsworth, did not immediately respond to requests for comment. The dispute arose after Unsworth told CNN that a mini-submarine offered for the rescue from the Tham Luang Nang Non cave by Musk's company SpaceX was a "PR stunt" and Musk could "stick his submarine where it hurts." In a related court filing, Musk's lawyers called Unsworth a public figure on matters related to the cave rescue. They said this required Unsworth to show by clear and convincing evidence that Musk made his statements towards him with "actual malice," a high standard. Unsworth is seeking compensatory and punitive damages. A trial is scheduled for Dec. 2. Musk's Twitter use prompted a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission lawsuit. A settlement approved in April sets out when Musk must obtain advance approval from a Tesla securities lawyer before posting. The case is Unsworth v Musk, U.S. District Court, Central District of California, No. 18-08048. (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Tom Brown) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-17 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meddle Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Musk does seem like an arrogant c*ock but for once it'd be nice to see the gold diggers lose ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Card Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Meddle said: Musk does seem like an arrogant c*ock but for once it'd be nice to see the gold diggers lose ; ) Who is a gold digger and what evidence do you have that this case was taken out purely for monetary gain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Card Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Chazar said: Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. Without such a court case, there would be no stopping slime ball musk. He's an obsessive entitlement freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrew33 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 So “pedo-guy” merely refers to “creepy old man”.... And it does so by linking them to what exactly? If that is the best defense his lawyers could come up with, he should just sign the cheque now and move on with his life ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred31 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, Card said: Who is a gold digger and what evidence do you have that this case was taken out purely for monetary gain? Musk is a truly great man, and ThaiVisa do nothing types should not make bad remarks about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver sea Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Chazar said: Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. In BritEng, being accused of pedophilia is a life threatening insult; far worse than being called a racist. Vigilantes will burn your house down, and you have to be put in a separate part of a prison, away from the other convicts for your own safety. Musk paid $50,000 to a private detective, who claimed that Unsworth was a whoremonger in Pattaya and had known his 40 year old wife, in the Biblical sense, since she was 12. Musk meant more than ‘creepy’ when he used the word ‘pedo’. He has had plenty of time to clarify his use of the word but his subsequent ‘off the record’ comments to Buzzfeed show what he really thought of Unsworth. See the additional information in this link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7470385/Elon-Musk-doubles-pedophile-allegation-against-British-diver-court-filing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Chazar said: Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. The problem in the modern age is that nothing that is on the internet goes away. So one uttered one cannot like the old days retract a comment in the press. Also now there is no arbiter like a reporter or editor to head defamatory comments off at the pass. So in today's times is a great time to do what many mother's told their children. If you can't say something nice about someone , don't say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan grice Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Who is a gold digger and what evidence do you have that this case was taken out purely for monetary gain? Well i think the poster suggests Unswort wouldn’t have sued a Bar Girl that called him something he didn’t like.!.Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 sure... and if I call him a retard I don't really mean he is retarded. own up and face the music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Chazar said: Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. One of them put his time and knowledge into helping rescuing the kids, the other used it for grandstanding a product that clearly wouldn't work. So no, not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeleto Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Card said: Who is a gold digger and what evidence do you have that this case was taken out purely for monetary gain? Because Musk apologised but unsworth went ahead with the law suit anyway which indicates an apology was not enough and wants monetary gain ergo the term gold digger. Personally I think both of them are childish with inflated egos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, alan grice said: Well i think the poster suggests Unswort wouldn’t have sued a Bar Girl that called him something he didn’t like.!. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app False equivalence - big difference between called something on the street and someone saying it via the media - big, big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Meddle said: Musk does seem like an arrogant c*ock but for once it'd be nice to see the gold diggers lose ; ) No one lost anything, except you who lost his reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, silver sea said: In BritEng, being accused of pedophilia is a life threatening insult; far worse than being called a racist. Vigilantes will burn your house down, and you have to be put in a separate part of a prison, away from the other convicts. Musk hired a private detective who claimed Unsworth was a whoremonger in Pattaya and had known his 40 year old wife, in the Biblical sense, since she was 12. See the additional information in this link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7470385/Elon-Musk-doubles-pedophile-allegation-against-British-diver-court-filing.html Just goes to show what sort of man Musk is to hire a PI against a hero! Disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momofarang Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Unsworth's comment on Musk having no frakking idea about about the dive configuration were 1000% pertinent. Anyway Musk's submarine was indeed a mere giant suppository. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Chazar said: Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. Spot on, but it looks like somebody thinks there is money to be earned.......I am fairly sure lawyers are encouraging this every step of the way. Bad comments from both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Linn Wood lives for libel cases and he only takes the best. Musk will settle before trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momofarang Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 This whole story upsets me a great deal as it reveals the extent of the stereotype that includes all senior westerners associated with Thai ladies. No one is allowed to have an opinion on women, people of certain backgrounds, sexual preferences, etc. but it is fair to assert that old men are creepy, hence "pedos". Once we are associate with a younger Thai wife we become criminal, despicable perverts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Fred31 said: Musk is a truly great man, and ThaiVisa do nothing types should not make bad remarks about him If he is a truly great man he should refrain from insulting others. Let alone do that publicly and in the manner he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsw53 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Musk made an unguarded comment which had enormous consquencies for Unsworth. He should be man enough to admit it, not try and slime his way out of it. If Unsworth wins, he should give any money above expenses to local charity, and await canonization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, dcsw53 said: Musk made an unguarded comment which had enormous consquencies for Unsworth. He should be man enough to admit it, not try and slime his way out of it. If Unsworth wins, he should give any money above expenses to local charity, and await canonization. Why should he give his money away, what a load of rubbish. It's his daugther that got bullied in the UK for musks bs comments and his life that got messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Total arrogant slimeball. But I didn't mean to call him a total arrogant slimeball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: I meant to insult him back by expressing my opinion that he seemed like a creepy old man." A creepy old guy who was in a cave trying to rescue young children who were in a desperate situation. The comment was un-warranted, even though Unsworth had said his over-sized suppository would not work in the cave system.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy723 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Chazar said: Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. If someone called me a pedo i would do more that sue them when i saw them and it WOULD NOT BE TO JUST SHAKE HIS HAND i like you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmonman Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Fred31 said: Musk is a truly great man, and ThaiVisa do nothing types should not make bad remarks about him He may be a "great man" in some respects, but he is still a narcissist and a <deleted>. Are you saying us "little people" have no right to criticize the foolish behaviour of our "betters"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dice Man Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Chazar said: Two of a kind, he had no need to mention shoving it up what he clearly meant was Musk's ass and there was no need for the Paedo comment, case dismissed stop being a pair of pratts and shake hands. So ...an idiot calls you a PAEDO and you shake hands.Not for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dice Man Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 56 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: Spot on, but it looks like somebody thinks there is money to be earned.......I am fairly sure lawyers are encouraging this every step of the way. Bad comments from both sides. No.....you do NOT ever call a man a PAEDO ! End of ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdavies99 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Meddle said: Musk does seem like an arrogant c*ock but for once it'd be nice to see the gold diggers lose ; ) Yes and you would accept being publicised as a " PEDO" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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