UK PM Johnson to meet European leaders in New York in push for Brexit deal

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UK PM Johnson to meet European leaders in New York in push for Brexit deal

By Kylie MacLellan

 

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson attends a roundtable at Downing Street in London, Britain, September 19, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls/Pool

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson will hold talks with European leaders on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly (UNGA) in New York next week as part of his push to secure a Brexit deal by the end of October.

 

Johnson is due to meet Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar, European Council President Donald Tusk, French President Emmanuel Macron and Germany's Angela Merkel on Monday and Tuesday, a senior UK official said.

 

"What this gives the Prime Minister an opportunity to do is talk to them at leader level about what some of our proposals are," the official said.

 

"We are under no illusions that there is an awful lot of work still to do and you should view the discussions at UNGA as part of an ongoing process."

 

Johnson has promised to take Britain out of the European Union on Oct. 31, with or without a deal, and is seeking changes to the agreement his predecessor Theresa May reached with Brussels.

 

Earlier this week, Britain shared technical documents with Brussels setting out its ideas for dealing with the contentious issue of the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland. These were not the formal written legal proposals Brussels has asked for however.

 

The British official said the New York talks would be a chance to discuss the ideas set out in the papers, which covered agri-food, customs and manufactured goods.

 

"They do provide a significant amount of detail on what we are proposing as a potential way forward," the official said.

"What is obviously encouraging is it is clear that all sides do want to try and achieve a deal, so the onus now is on everybody to work hard to try to find a way through."

 

In New York, Johnson will address a breakfast meeting of British and American business leaders on Tuesday, during which he will set out his pitch for why they should invest in post-Brexit Britain.

 

He is also due to hold bilaterals with leaders including U.S. President Donald Trump, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan and New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.

 

(Editing by Stephen Addison)

 

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[George Aylesham]

While he's there I hope the UN Secretary General will remind Johnson that the Good Friday Agreement is an international treaty registered with the United nations.

[Laughing Gravy]

52 minutes ago, George Aylesham said:

While he's there I hope the UN Secretary General will remind Johnson that the Good Friday Agreement is an international treaty registered with the United nations.

The United Nations the most undemocratic organisation in the world, followed by the EU.

 

I hope he tells them to mind their own business and that it will not be the UK building a wall or border or causing any terrorist attacks on NI or Eire territories. So who will then.

[sawadee1947]

31 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The United Nations the most undemocratic organisation in the world, followed by the EU.

 

I hope he tells them to mind their own business and that it will not be the UK building a wall or border or causing any terrorist attacks on NI or Eire territories. So who will then.

Rubbish, 

Who sent then troopers to Belfast? 

Better you take a beer and keep quiet ????

[Laughing Gravy]

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

Rubbish, 

Who sent then troopers to Belfast? 

Better you take a beer and keep quiet ????

Says the Sein Fein terrorist supporter. The UK will not put up a border it has said many times. So what bit is rubbish, as with your writing as usual, it is difficult to know what you are relating too.

 

Better you act civil.

[sawadee1947]

3 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Says the Sein Fein terrorist supporter. The UK will not put up a border it has said many times. So what bit is rubbish, as with your writing as usual, it is difficult to know what you are relating too.

 

Better you act civil.

What UK is saying and what they are doing are different pair of shoes. UK with Boris is not reliable. 

A no-deal Brexit implements a border, whatever lies he's telling. 

????

And this would collide with the Good Friday agreement. 

Do you get it now? 

 

[Laughing Gravy]

14 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

What UK is saying and what they are doing are different pair of shoes. UK with Boris is not reliable. 

A no-deal Brexit implements a border, whatever lies he's telling. 

????

And this would collide with the Good Friday agreement. 

Do you get it now? 

 

I don't know what pair of shoes you are wearing but not the same as mine.

 

For a million times the UK have said there will be no border put up by the UK. Unless you can time travel and see the future you have to go on whats said until it happens or just be seen as a constant pessimistic complainer and a unsubstantiated know all.

 

You should stop listening to Leo as he is just the EU's lap dog doing what he is told.

 

I get it. The EU have been using Ireland as a reason to keep the UK in the EU.

 

Sadly I can see the UK getting  a deal which for me is not what I personally. I wanted a clean break from the EU. The only consolation will be trawling back on the posts of remainers who have for 3 years have said this and that.

 

Stupid things like its all 27 of the EU countries have to agree. No way the UK will be able to do this and that.

 

 

[Loiner]

What UK is saying and what they are doing are different pair of shoes. UK with Boris is not reliable. 
A no-deal Brexit implements a border, whatever lies he's telling. 
[emoji48]
And this would collide with the Good Friday agreement. 
Do you get it now? 
 

There’s already a border there and it’s been working fine since the GFA. There’s no need and no intention for the UK to change that status quo.

Now if your EU want to impose new border infrastructure to secure its own protectionist bloc, well that’s your different pair of shoes. Republican terrorists and the EU can sort it out amongst yourselves.

Not UK’s border, not UK’s problem. Do you get that?

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

Rubbish, 

Who sent then troopers to Belfast? 

Better you take a beer and keep quiet ????

Many were already there Seamus; 'UK' an' all that ????

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The UK will not put up a border it has said many times. So what bit is rubbish

How does that sit with the promises that were made ahead of the Brexit vote? How will we prevent the great unwashed from flocking across the border?

 

 

[DannyCarlton]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Says the Sein Fein terrorist supporter. The UK will not put up a border it has said many times. So what bit is rubbish, as with your writing as usual, it is difficult to know what you are relating too.

 

Better you act civil.

The UK will create a situation (no deal Brexit, no customs union), where there are no alternatives to creating a hard border. A breach of the GFA.

 

Johnson (that's the guy who wrote a scathing article in the Spectator, for which he later had to apologised, claiming that the Hillsborough disaster was all the fault of drunken Liverpudlians) doesn't give a damn if he restarts the troubles, he's only concerned that he and his mates make a killing by crashing the UK economy. Good of you to want to help him.

[Jip99]

1 minute ago, DannyCarlton said:

The UK will create a situation (no deal Brexit, no customs union), where there are no alternatives to creating a hard border. A breach of the GFA.

 

 

No they won’t.

[Jip99]

8 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

 

Johnson (that's the guy who wrote a scathing article in the Spectator, for which he later had to apologised, claiming that the Hillsborough disaster was all the fault of drunken Liverpudlians) doesn't give a damn if he restarts the troubles, he's only concerned that he and his mates make a killing by crashing the UK economy. Good of you to want to help him.

 

 

More Remain lies.

 

Johnson didn’t write that article as you falsely state.

 

He was editor and apologised for the article in 2012 (17 years ago but thanks for bringing it up in a 2019 Brexit debate) and again 2014.

 

 

Incidentally, the article did not say “all” the fault lay with drunken Liverpool fans ...it suggested that contributed to the disaster.

[Thingamabob]

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

What UK is saying and what they are doing are different pair of shoes. UK with Boris is not reliable. 

A no-deal Brexit implements a border, whatever lies he's telling. 

????

And this would collide with the Good Friday agreement. 

Do you get it now? 

 

Really silly..

[Thingamabob]

3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

More Te Remain lies.

 

Johnson didn’t write that article as you falsely state.

 

He was editor and apologised for the article in 2012 (17 years ago but thanks for bringing it up in a 2019 Brexit debate) and again 2014.

...and the scousers were <deleted>faced.

[Laughing Gravy]

36 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

How does that sit with the promises that were made ahead of the Brexit vote? How will we prevent the great unwashed from flocking across the border?

 

 

I tend not to listen to politicians and vote on my own conscious. So no deal suits me fine. Not that I believe truly it will happen but I hope in vain.

 

So where did you get this picture. It seems to be the new trend on here. People upload posts of daft pictures or captions.

 

I guess that as a planet, the world is becoming less articulate and people comfortably now affiliate and respond to pictures. 

 

Genuinely not having a go at you RR. Just seems the way many people communicate now.

 

[RuamRudy]

46 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I tend not to listen to politicians and vote on my own conscious. So no deal suits me fine. Not that I believe truly it will happen but I hope in vain.

 

So where did you get this picture. It seems to be the new trend on here. People upload posts of daft pictures or captions.

 

I guess that as a planet, the world is becoming less articulate and people comfortably now affiliate and respond to pictures. 

 

Genuinely not having a go at you RR. Just seems the way many people communicate now.

 

It is succinct, clear and unambiguous - I could have written a paragraph to elaborate on my question, but this single image represents the basis of my question without need for further explanation. 

[Laughing Gravy]

12 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

It is succinct, clear and unambiguous - I could have written a paragraph to elaborate on my question, but this single image represents the basis of my question without need for further explanation. 

Well if you say so and that's your final answer. I guess we differ.

 

It is as ambiguous as you can get.

[Laughing Gravy]

17 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

It is succinct, clear and unambiguous - I could have written a paragraph to elaborate on my question, but this single image represents the basis of my question without need for further explanation. 

A picture says a thousand words. Where shall we start on your clear, succinct and unambiguous picture.

 

mmm Its Ambiguous, ingenuous, false, fake etc. I could go through the alphabet.

 

Clear for who. I won't comment or I would be banned.

[RuamRudy]

18 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

A picture says a thousand words. Where shall we start on your clear, succinct and unambiguous picture.

 

mmm Its Ambiguous, ingenuous, false, fake etc. I could go through the alphabet.

 

Clear for who. I won't comment or I would be banned.

Is it fake? I have no idea of its provenance so if you can show it is fake then I will gladly accept that. It does, however, look a well crafted photoshop if so.

 

So well crafted, in fact, that it was used by the New Statesman. If the left leaning press is not to your taste, here is an Express story with our titanic PM in front of the very same backdrop. 

[evadgib]

25 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Is it fake? I have no idea of its provenance so if you can show it is fake then I will gladly accept that. It does, however, look a well crafted photoshop if so.

 

So well crafted, in fact, that it was used by the New Statesman. If the left leaning press is not to your taste, here is an Express story with our titanic PM in front of the very same backdrop. 

Something for a 'no news' day RR ????

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

A picture says a thousand words. Where shall we start on your clear, succinct and unambiguous picture.

 

mmm Its Ambiguous, ingenuous, false, fake etc. I could go through the alphabet.

 

Clear for who. I won't comment or I would be banned.

It takes around 3 minutes to find a few sources with Google, i.e.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/681706/Boris-Johnson-vote-Brexit-take-back-control

[Nigel Garvie]

5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The United Nations the most undemocratic organisation in the world, followed by the EU.

 

I think this is a bit confused. The UN is a collection of representatives of different nations meeting together, it doesn't claim itself to be a Democracy as far as I know. It has numerous programs like vaccinations, peacekeeping, poverty relief, disaster relief, education etc that Nations sign up to and help fund of their own free will. It is not a government, and cannot order it's members, or any individual to do anything. Many Countries simply don't sign up for the bits they don't like, the US with the International Court of Justice in the Hague for example. 

[Loiner]

Rubbish, 
Who sent then troopers to Belfast? 
Better you take a beer and keep quiet [emoji48]

Who sent them? The govt trying to keep the peace. Protection for them too as far as I remember.

[Slip]

2 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I think this is a bit confused. The UN is a collection of representatives of different nations meeting together, it doesn't claim itself to be a Democracy as far as I know. It has numerous programs like vaccinations, peacekeeping, poverty relief, disaster relief, education etc that Nations sign up to and help fund of their own free will. It is not a government, and cannot order it's members, or any individual to do anything. Many Countries simply don't sign up for the bits they don't like, the US with the International Court of Justice in the Hague for example. 

Our brexiteer friends all seem to be in varying stages of meltdown these days.  Hang in there chaps- it could still all happen.

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, George Aylesham said:

While he's there I hope the UN Secretary General will remind Johnson that the Good Friday Agreement is an international treaty registered with the United nations.

The value of a treaty with the UK: 20 1/2 years.

[puipuitom]

7 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The United Nations the most undemocratic organisation in the world, followed by the EU.

Just like every civil servants.. all UN ambassadors are appointed by their governments. The secretary-general is appointed by the heads of government of the member states.

 

For the EU ( unbelievable every Brit- after 50 years EU member - still does not (want to ) know: the decision making bodies are;

-          EU council, consisting of the heads of government of the member states

-          EU Commission, more a kind of ministers, from each EU member state one, appointed by their governments

-          EU parliament, with 750 members, from each  EU member state direct by their citizens elected.

 

What do you think of the democratic situation at: the Bank of England / House of Lords / British Football Association etc ? Or FIFA, WTO, WHO, Olympic Committee ?

[puipuitom]

3 hours ago, evadgib said:

Something for a 'no news' day RR ????

 

Yes... ENGLAND.

 

And Scotland as EU member, Northern Ireland as part of Eire. ( and maybe Greater London split off of England ). What is left then, is a rural country with old fashioned industry.

 

( I never forget my audit ar Rowntree Macintosh in York, around 1980. I thought they welcomed me in their museum, as.. leather belts were still in use to drive the machines. like in NL, D, B in the 20-40's ... "Sorry, we donot have anything else… " No wonder Nestle took over, and the majority of their production, like After Eight, for the EU is already for decades in Hamburg).

[elliss]

38 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

 

 

( I never forget my audit ar Rowntree Macintosh in York, around 1980. I thought they welcomed me in their museum, as.. leather belts were still in use to drive the machines. like in NL, D, B in the 20-40's ... "Sorry, we donot have anything else… " No wonder Nestle took over, and the majority of their production, like After Eight, for the EU is already for decades in Hamburg).

    I remember it well. Water driven wheels , pulleys and levers , not much has changed really. 

    UK , is Industrial History,   a non starter in industrial development . 

    Nestles , the list is never ending etc ..

    Should be a new topic , industries that have left the UK.

 

 

[Loiner]

31 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

" No wonder Nestle took over, and the majority of their production, like After Eight, for the EU is already for decades in Hamburg).

Do you ever wonder why we say the EU has decimated UK industry over the past 43 years? You have given one good example, of the many available. If the industry was so bad, why not just leave it there until it finally broke down? Or gradually the UK people would decide that chocolate produced by gastarbeiter on UK & US financed machinery tastes much better? 

 

European business was way ahead of the game, flush with money and willing to pay for UK businesses that turned big profits. Using the EU, those industries would be bought and transferred to cheap labour plants in the EU, and still keep supplying the massive UK markets under easy EU trade rules.

 

When we have Brexited, how long will it be before the prices of our previously locally produced national products become too expensive to import? It will be time for the UK industries to start producing for the home markets again.