Bypass an TM30 issue on a SETV for extension.

[nakluapattaya]

Yet another TM30 topic, in which im very confused.

In my situation i will arrive on a SETV (60days) and will not stay in any hotel, or place that will report me to immigration (TM30).

Does one random night at a hotel in the province i will be applying for a 30 day extension solve this issue? So i can do a 30 day extension.

 

As in my case staying with my GF in a floor of a 3-floor-townhouse, a friend of my GF let her stay there for free, the owner of that townhouse shop doesnt even know who exactly is staying there (he only cares about the ground floor shop itself, he has multiple branches across the country, and he isnt even in the province, probly in BKK, some kind of place like Top Charoen with multiple branches) So he lets the staff live there if they want, or whatever else he doesnt really care, and is fine with it. Electricity and water bills are paid by the company too. So no way anybody is going to report an TM30 on me.

 

How do i get a positive outcome when i will go apply for a 30 day extension? A random night stay during my 60 days at a hotel? Do they also report when u check out? Do i need sleep in a hotel the day before and during the extension application? So much confusion here. I will apply at Rayong immigration. In the past i never even had been bothered by any authorities in this city. They just dont seem to care about foreigerners. Did not had an issue earlyer this year in May at Rayong. But reading so much about the law being strictly enforced now nationwide? Im eager to hear about other people on a SETV.

[ubonjoe]

It is not nationwide yet. Some offices do not enforce it the same way others do.

Some offices do not enforce it for extensions of a tourist visa entry.

If needed a one night stay in a hotel that does the reports online would be accepted.

[nakluapattaya]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

It is not nationwide yet. Some offices do not enforce it the same way others do.

Some offices do not enforce it for extensions of a tourist visa entry.

Yes it just that now that im starting to freaking out a bit since i planned a 6 months trip.

And i really want to be sure to get my first extension, my biggest question is about the whole hotel thing.

If it requires me to stay in a hotel for one night then that would not be a problem. But if its reported by the days your staying in a hotel, i dont wanna bother staying in a hotel for 60 days.

 

A guide on what exact days to do a hotel stay to avoid all of this authoritarian BS would be great. I dont wanna get suprised doing my extension. Im also thinking of going pretty early to immigration, if they come up with a problem then i would still have time to find any solution before getting a overstay.

[Matzzon]

Sounds to me you are making a heart transplantation out of a bypass.

[nakluapattaya]

44 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Sounds to me you are making a heart transplantation out of a bypass.

Its quite stressfull.

 

Hope anyone can answer my question ????

[Matzzon]

4 minutes ago, nakluapattaya said:

Its quite stressfull.

 

Hope anyone can answer my question ????

Just stay in hotel the night before your extension, and all will be fine.

[nakluapattaya]

9 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Just stay in hotel the night before your extension, and all will be fine.

Srsly 100%thanks. ???? I was looking for this, cleared my confusion. I will tell the hotel about tm30 and make sure they register me.

[Matzzon]

15 minutes ago, nakluapattaya said:

Srsly 100%thanks. ???? I was looking for this, cleared my confusion. I will tell the hotel about tm30 and make sure they register me.

The most bad that can happen is that they fine you 800 or 1600 baht for not filed your TM30 before. After that they will grant your extension anyway.

The night in hotel before going is to avoid beeing fined.

[nakluapattaya]

7 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

The most bad that can happen is that they fine you 800 or 1600 baht for not filed your TM30 before. After that they will grant your extension anyway.

The night in hotel before going is to avoid beeing fined.

Awesome! i really thought they would deny further extension. The internet is really full or horror stories.

[Peter Denis]

To be on the safe side you would need to check-in at a Hotel the night before visiting the provincial IO for your extension of stay.  Don't check out yet in the morning but first visit the provincial IO for your extension.

Also make sure that the hotel asks for your passport and TM-6 (entry-card) as they need those data to file a correct TM30.

Note 1: They won't bother about your previous history of stays (because it is possible that you stayed in a different province and had your TM30 filings done manually there).  They only want to see a current TM30, hence the advice not to check-out before your extension has been approved.

Note 2: As UbonJoe mentioned, it is even possible that they will not even bother about TM30, but indeed it's better to be on the safe and stressless side. 

[nakluapattaya]

@Peter Denis

Thanks, yes Rayong city authorities and immigration is usually very relaxed about foreigners in everyway. Sometimes too relaxed; i imagine it will actually be difficult finding a hotel that will actually do a proper tm30 report xD Because Rayong city has almost no tourism, or nightlife dedicated to foreigners, most skip Rayong and arrive either in Ban Chang, or Ban Pe (Samet). In the past all hotels i visited; they never bothered doing a tm30, if i came alone they did not even want to see my passport, just wanted 500 baht for the night & laughed and were suprised to see a foreigner. And when i came with my GF they always wanted her national id card. 

 

I imagine having to ask all hotel receptions the day before my extension to ask if they even know about TM30. I might get lucky with a few hotels on Sukhumvit Rd, and near Star market. They must have had foreigners stay before. I definitely want to be on the safe & stressfree side of life :P