Democrats set Thursday vote on U.S. House path in Trump impeachment probe

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Still comes down to the senate having to have the numbers. If the GOP senators think they'll lose election by supporting conviction, likely they will vote against conviction.

 

Even if they detest Trump they know removal would lead to all out socialism. This election is more about ideology then actual candidates now. 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Pence would never carry the ticket on his own. He has all the charisma of a rural high school principle whose only agenda is bringing back paddling.

I'd vote for any politician who wants to bring back corporal punishment to schools, under strict controls. Not like the open season teachers and prefects had when I was at school. That was institutional bullying.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'd vote for any politician who wants to bring back corporal punishment to schools, under strict controls. Not like the open season teachers and prefects had when I was at school. That was institutional bullying.

 

The comment was more about his personality than paddling. He is the guy in the movie footloose that keeps dancing illegal.

[stevenl]

13 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Even if they detest Trump they know removal would lead to all out socialism. This election is more about ideology then actual candidates now. 

Nonsense on both claims.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

The comment was more about his personality than paddling. He is the guy in the movie footloose that keeps dancing illegal.

Perhaps the voters have had enough of personalities, and would like a bland, steady as she goes sort instead. Time for a cuppa and a rest.

[Sujo]

31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sorry. Missed that you were saying for VP. Ivanka as VP would be a good choice IMO. What red blooded man would pass the chance to have her on the news all the time?

I personally don't like Eric based on what I've seen of him. so not him.

I personally would note vote for someone based on looks.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

I personally would note vote for someone based on looks.

 

There are many people that do vote based on that or personality.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

This may be a dumb question but if Pence is president does he pick the VP? If so Ivanka could become VP or Eric and Pence could resign. From the little googling I did it seems indeed Pence picks. 

 

Ivanka and Eric are articulate and would be formidable candidates for the GOP. They would claim center stage immediately. They would automatically get any Trump vote from the base and people who feel the dems attempted to steal the office.

 

Bring it on either way. 

One can only hope both Ivanka and Eric are destined for federal prison. The US has already had enough of that noxious family.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

One can only hope both Ivanka and Eric are destined for federal prison. The US has already had enough of that noxious family.

 

They could be roomies with the Clintons. I was simply pointing out that there could be unintended consequences of what the dems are doing. 16 years of a Trump dynasty. Whoever the next president is god save their soul will be treated to this sort of nonsense. The American public isn't about to unite either way.

[bristolboy]

40 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

There are many people that do vote based on that or personality.

Unfortunately, you're right.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Even if they detest Trump they know removal would lead to all out socialism. This election is more about ideology then actual candidates now. 

 

42 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

There are many people that do vote based on that or personality.

Wait, it is not about the candidates but about personality?

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

They could be roomies with the Clintons.

Republicans have tried time and time again.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, stevenl said:

 

Wait, it is not about the candidates but about personality?

 

Holy cow you people argue over nothing. TV presentability and personality are important. Nixon against Kennedy it played a big part. John Kerry, Al Gore if they had anything going or some charisma would have most likely won. Obama sold a turd but people liked him. Yes personality is a big factor. Trump if he was less caustic would win a landslide 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Republicans have tried time and time again.

 

The dems are doing the same. I was simply mentioning another noxious family we don't need.

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Holy cow you people argue over nothing. TV presentability and personality are important. Nixon against Kennedy it played a big part. John Kerry, Al Gore if they had anything going or some charisma would have most likely won. Obama sold a turd but people liked him. Yes personality is a big factor. Trump if he was less caustic would win a landslide 

Who are 'you people'?

But if you contradict yourself yes, I will point that out.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, stevenl said:

Who are 'you people'?

But if you contradict yourself yes, I will point that out.

 

So you think how people look on tv and their general level of charisma don't play a role in who wins an election? 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

I personally would note vote for someone based on looks.

Most voters vote for the one that promises the most goodies for free. I know they are lying, and given none of us know anything about them in reality, I'll go for the one I like to look at on tv.

Lies or looks- up to you. At least looks stay looks unlike broken promises.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

 

So you think how people look on tv and their general level of charisma don't play a role in who wins an election? 

Nixon won the debate on radio, but people that watched tv voted for Kennedy because he was pretty and Nixon sweated too much. Go figure.

[thaibeachlovers]

28 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Holy cow you people argue over nothing. TV presentability and personality are important. Nixon against Kennedy it played a big part. John Kerry, Al Gore if they had anything going or some charisma would have most likely won. Obama sold a turd but people liked him. Yes personality is a big factor. Trump if he was less caustic would win a landslide 

Obama won because the GOP candidate was a <deleted> in the first election.

He did indeed have loads of personality, and would have made a great cabaret artiste. Sadly he became president instead.

 

Al Gore should have won except for funny business in the count, so he did win the personality contest. I'd have voted for him.

Sadly we got Bush the younger and Iraq.

 

John Kerry should have won, but the swiftboat lies sunk him, so he won that personality contest.

 

Trump if he was less caustic would win a landslide 

He only won BECAUSE he was caustic. Middle America loved how he was going to stick it right up the Washington elite's <deleted>.

[Tug]

41 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

They could be roomies with the Clintons. I was simply pointing out that there could be unintended consequences of what the dems are doing. 16 years of a Trump dynasty. Whoever the next president is god save their soul will be treated to this sort of nonsense. The American public isn't about to unite either way.

How can you say nonsense?donald trump has earned every ounce of vitriol with interest he has been trolling us for years and years I’ve been aware of this man since the 70s he had a bad reputation even then no sir he earned it with interest.The speaker will with great care set the framework for getting rid of this abomination of a president 

[stevenl]

20 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

So you think how people look on tv and their general level of charisma don't play a role in who wins an election? 

Which is again not what I said. You said 'it is not about the people this time' and 'it is about their personality'. I pointed out you're contradicting yourself, and now you try to claim I said it is not about personality. Sorry mate, you're the one who said that, same as you said it is not about the people.

[spidermike007]

43 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

They could be roomies with the Clintons. I was simply pointing out that there could be unintended consequences of what the dems are doing. 16 years of a Trump dynasty. Whoever the next president is god save their soul will be treated to this sort of nonsense. The American public isn't about to unite either way.

I doubt we will see four full years of Trump. Period. Gone baby gone. You dug your own grave. You made your own bed. Now, lie in it Don Donald.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Tug said:

How can you say nonsense?donald trump has earned every ounce of vitriol with interest he has been trolling us for years and years I’ve been aware of this man since the 70s he had a bad reputation even then no sir he earned it with interest.The speaker will with great care set the framework for getting rid of thes abomination of a president 

Bush the younger was a far, far worse president IMO, but I don't remember anything like the vitriol that is given to Trump.

Trump hasn't started pointless wars based on lies that killed and maimed thousands of Americans or caused economic chaos like the 2007 catastrophe.

Reagan had the Nicaragua illegal war on his watch, and wasted billions on the moronic star wars project, but he was revered.

So what, apart from Trump liking women that he isn't married to, and being a tv reality show host, is it that people hate so much about Trump?

What could be worse than Bush's evil war that he started, apparently because he didn't like Saddam?

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I doubt we will see four full years of Trump. Period. Gone baby gone. You dug your own grave. You made your own bed. Now, lie in it Don Donald.

Welcome president Pence.

Be careful what you wish for.

[Cryingdick]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Bush the younger was a far, far worse president IMO, but I don't remember anything like the vitriol that is given to Trump.

Trump hasn't started pointless wars based on lies that killed and maimed thousands of Americans or caused economic chaos like the 2007 catastrophe.

Reagan had the Nicaragua illegal war on his watch, and wasted billions on the moronic star wars project, but he was revered.

So what, apart from Trump liking women that he isn't married to, and being a tv reality show host, is it that people hate so much about Trump?

What could be worse than Bush's evil war that he started, apparently because he didn't like Saddam?

 

It's nothing like that now. I returned home to the USA a bit over two years ago. I mistakenly walked into it thinking things hadn't changed that much. I was married to my husband by a British priest. Everybody assumed because we are gay we must be part of the resistance.

 

I didn't know anybody so they suggested they could get a few friends to show up. A few hours later I noticed on FB the group was making anti-Trump signs to make my wedding to a foreigner a political statement.

 

The wedding was in a public park. I didn't plan it that way for another reason than it was free and didn't need the small town film crew. They use anything or anybody they can.

 

They were shocked that I was opposed to it. That was my first taste of the "resistance"

 

You are with them are against them. I was fairly liberal my entire life and still actually am. I have never encountered their special breed of bullying, peer pressure and anti-fa. 

 

I didn't have a house so I stayed with the priest instead of an Airbnb. What a mistake he was foaming at the mouth about Sean Spicer from morning until night. I kept my mouth shut. I remember when the religious wing of the right were insufferable bastards. This was a whole new level.

[Cryingdick]

30 minutes ago, Tug said:

How can you say nonsense?donald trump has earned every ounce of vitriol with interest he has been trolling us for years and years I’ve been aware of this man since the 70s he had a bad reputation even then no sir he earned it with interest.The speaker will with great care set the framework for getting rid of this abomination of a president 

 

At this pace the impeachment trial in the senate will never be before the election. It also is doomed to fail. Thus far it has been all the dems pushing whatever agenda they want because they won't take a vote to impeach. 

 

The republicans will get their chance to respond once that happens. There is no way it is settled in a year. That means there will be an election. It is also the easiest way to get rid of Trump. Try it sometime.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Bush the younger was a far, far worse president IMO, but I don't remember anything like the vitriol that is given to Trump.

Trump hasn't started pointless wars based on lies that killed and maimed thousands of Americans or caused economic chaos like the 2007 catastrophe.

Reagan had the Nicaragua illegal war on his watch, and wasted billions on the moronic star wars project, but he was revered.

So what, apart from Trump liking women that he isn't married to, and being a tv reality show host, is it that people hate so much about Trump?

What could be worse than Bush's evil war that he started, apparently because he didn't like Saddam?

It is very true that Bush and especially Cheney lied, cajoled, and cheated, to start the Iraq war, which has turned out to be a historic catastrophe. However, in comparison, Bush Jr. seems like a man of dignity, charm, humor and decency, next to the conniving circus clown we now have to suffer through. Trump has lowered the bar, when it comes to class, smarts, the ability to negotiate anything at all, and competence. He is so far out of his league, and does not even know it. An IQ of 94 can be a dangerous thing, when given enough power and influence. 

[RideJocky]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is very true that Bush and especially Cheney lied, cajoled, and cheated, to start the war in Iraq...

Another lie the left is constantly regurgitating. 
 

 

[RideJocky]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

I’ve been aware of this man since the 70s...

Wow, way back when he was a Democrat.

[metisdead]

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