Media mogul Bloomberg enters U.S. presidential race, takes aim at Trump

[bendejo]

16 hours ago, Silurian said:

Someone should tell Bloomberg that if he wants to assure a 2020 victory for the Democratic candidate, then he should buy out Fox News and dump all those moronic talking heads.

 

If Bloomberg has the money to blast out nation wide ads, then he certainly has the money to buy out Fox News. Now that would be a game changer.

 

You've been watching the series "Succession" haven't you?

 

There are probably laws against this, but seeing how white-collar laws are so selectively enforced in the US these days it may not matter.  For now.

 

 

[sukhumvitneon]

Yawn.  Another gun grabbing douche hoping to swindle "potential voters" out of millions to feed his DOA campaign.

[bristolboy]

17 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said:

Yawn.  Another gun grabbing douche hoping to swindle "potential voters" out of millions to feed his DOA campaign.

He's already said he's going to finance his own campaigns. Of course, so did Trump. And we know how that turned out. But unlike Trump, Bloomberg doesn't have a history of swindling. And he's worth a lot more than Trump.

[Jingthing]

52 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said:

Yawn.  Another gun grabbing douche hoping to swindle "potential voters" out of millions to feed his DOA campaign.

So which DEMOCRAT do you prefer? 

[Jingthing]

34 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

He's already said he's going to finance his own campaigns. Of course, so did Trump. And we know how that turned out. But unlike Trump, Bloomberg doesn't have a history of swindling. And he's worth a lot more than Trump.

Actually I heard that he eventually plans to open it up for small donors. No corporate ones. Of course he doesn't need the money but I think that's more in the spirit of inviting grass roots connection and participation. I get the skepticism about Bloomberg but not all billionaires are the same. He has a  long history of philanthropy towards liberal causes. I deliberately say liberal rather than progressive because that's clearly closer to his political branding like it or not. 

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Actually I heard that he eventually plans to open it up for small donors. No corporate ones. Of course he doesn't need the money but I think that's more in the spirit of inviting grass roots connection and participation. I get the skepticism about Bloomberg but not all billionaires are the same. He has a  long history of philanthropy towards liberal causes. I deliberately say liberal rather than progressive because that's clearly closer to his political branding like it or not. 

_{Unfortunately for Bloomberg he has a long documented history of misogyny.}

 

Michael Bloomberg Is the He, Too, Candidate

Now a billionaire with a history of being crude toward women wants to be the 46th president.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/michael-bloomberg-democratic-campaign-sexism.html

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

_{Unfortunately for Bloomberg he has a long documented history of misogyny.}

 

Michael Bloomberg Is the He, Too, Candidate

Now a billionaire with a history of being crude toward women wants to be the 46th president.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/michael-bloomberg-democratic-campaign-sexism.html

There aren't any perfect people that even want to be president. Especially very qualified people like Bloomberg.

[bristolboy]

 

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There aren't any perfect people that even want to be president. Especially very qualified people like Bloomberg.

Democrats enjoy a huge edge among women. You really don't want to jeopardize that. And quite honestly, it would be fair to criticize the Democrats for overlooking in Bloomberg what they quite rightly condemn in Trump. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

 

Democrats enjoy a huge edge among women. You really don't want to jeopardize that. And quite honestly, it would be fair to criticize the Democrats for overlooking in Bloomberg what they quite rightly condemn in Trump. 

I don't think there is any equivalency between them on women's issues. For example abortion choice. 

[Jingthing]

Some other things to consider. Personal behavior and public policies and actions aren't the same thing. 

I don't think there is any comparison between Bloomberg and 45 on women's issues.

If nominated I would be shocked if Bloomberg doesn't pick a woman VP and I would also be shocked if elected if his cabinet isn't much more gender diverse than 45.

The behavior issues are going to be a much bigger problem for Bloomberg in the nomination fight which of course is no sure thing. 

 

 

[bristolboy]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

There aren't any perfect people that even want to be president. Especially very qualified people like Bloomberg.

He also isn't exactly the most popular person in the African-American community. Even last year he was defending Stop & Frisk despite mountains of data that showed it wasn't necessary. And he's supposed to be the data guy.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

He also isn't exactly the most popular person in the African-American community. Even last year he was defending Stop & Frisk despite mountains of data that showed it wasn't necessary. And he's supposed to be the data guy.

Yes. He's working on repairing that. I don't know if he will succeed. All of the candidates have strong pros and cons. Including Bloomberg.

Edited November 26, 2019 by Jingthing

[Kelsall]

Bloomberg has one thing in common with all the other Democratic candidates:  Doesn't stand a chance of beating Trump.

[bristolboy]

30 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes. He's working on repairing that. I don't know if he will succeed. All of the candidates have strong pros and cons. Including Bloomberg.

This guy doesn't so much agree with you:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-michael-bloombergs-late-bid-for-the-democratic-nomination-could-go/

[Opl]

28 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Bloomberg has one thing in common with all the other Democratic candidates:  Doesn't stand a chance of beating Trump.

Only Putin can 

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

This guy doesn't so much agree with you:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-michael-bloombergs-late-bid-for-the-democratic-nomination-could-go/

You seem to have misunderstood me. I've consistently said it will be a great challenge for him to win the democratic nomination. But I do think it is possible and I'm sure he wouldn't be running if he didn't think it was possible. Sure it's an unconventional situation but look at the times we're in. I like Mike because I do truly believe he has the best chance of all the running democrats to beat 45 in a LANDSLIDE. I also think Amy Klobuchar could do that but I think Bloomberg will be reducing her already slim chances for the nomination. 

[Number 6]

Yeah, no thanks Mike. Go enjoy West Palm Beach.l if you're bored and need something to do.

 

[Jingthing]

After the constant drone of toxic MADNESS coming from 45 I think Americans are craving somebody 

 

SOLID

NORMAL

STABLE (not fake stable)

REAL 

EXPERIENCED

SUCCESSFUL

PHILANTHROPIC SPIRIT (what you want in a billionaire)

UNIFYING

 

The presidency is not supposed to be constantly checking the latest perverted divisive tweet. It's not supposed to keep people up at night -- what will he do next? 

 

Americans are EXHAUSTED. We're tired of SCREAMING at each other. This almost civil war type of atmosphere must end. 

 

I think Bloomberg meets this deep need much better than any other choice which again is why I think if nominated that he will beat 45 by a LANDSLIDE. We need a LANDSLIDE. A narrow win will be a problem. 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Jingthing

[bristolboy]

38 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Yeah, no thanks Mike. Go enjoy West Palm Beach.l if you're bored and need something to do.

 

West Palm Beach?

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

West Palm Beach?

I'm not sure where he spends most of his time these days. Wiki says he owns 13 properties worldwide. He owns a fabulous place in London and he has personal ties through his daughters to Bermuda. 

 

It's a given that he's filthy rich. But does have a  documented record of doing a lot of very good things with his vast wealth. 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

I think the type of white voter that voted for Obama and then 45 would mostly vote for Bloomberg vs. 45. 

[bristolboy]

Not the banks' fault. Not Wall St.'s Fault.

Let’s Talk About That Time Mike Bloomberg Blamed Congress for the Financial Crisis

"Michael Bloomberg, who is now officially running for president, has always presented himself as a moderate, data-driven problem solver, a guy far less interested in ideology than numbers and results. To see how that image doesn’t always mesh with reality, though, it’s useful to revisit some of his more notorious comments about what brought on the Great Recession."

https://slate.com/business/2019/11/michael-bloomberg-financial-crisis-congress-wall-street.html

[nkg]

I see that any Democrat candidate is favourite to win the next Presidential election at the bookmakers. $100 stake will get you $186 should a Democrat become next President.

 

I really don't think that this reflects reality. Currently, you can bet $100 that the next POTUS will be Republican, and you would win $210. If you specify Trump as the next POTUS, you'd win $237.50

 

Providing that you are prepared to wait until the 3rd November 2020 to collect your winnings, that seems like a very good bet. This is based on UK bookmakers odds, the prices may be different on the US betting markets.

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2019 by nkg

[Jingthing]

For whatever this is worth, famous left wing New Yorker actor Robert De Niro has endorsed BLOOMBERG on the Colbert show. He also had nice words for Mayor Pete but suggested as he is so young he could wait for later. Nice and Mayor Pete -- sounds about right. De Niro described BLOOMBERG as could be the one. Exactly how I feel. It's particularly interesting to hear how NEW YORKERS feel about the two major NEW YORKERS in this race. The current president is massively unpopular among those people that know him the best. I'm sure Bloomberg doesn't have super high ratings there either but they've got to be much much higher relatively. 

Edited November 27, 2019 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

6 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Not the banks' fault. Not Wall St.'s Fault.

Let’s Talk About That Time Mike Bloomberg Blamed Congress for the Financial Crisis

"Michael Bloomberg, who is now officially running for president, has always presented himself as a moderate, data-driven problem solver, a guy far less interested in ideology than numbers and results. To see how that image doesn’t always mesh with reality, though, it’s useful to revisit some of his more notorious comments about what brought on the Great Recession."

https://slate.com/business/2019/11/michael-bloomberg-financial-crisis-congress-wall-street.html

Well, I want to hear how Bloomberg plans to divest himself from his business interests if elected president, which I think to be credible he MUST do, in contrast to the current president that didn't. 

[blazes]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

For whatever this is worth, famous left wing New Yorker actor Robert De Niro has endorsed BLOOMBERG on the Colbert show. He also had nice words for Mayor Pete but suggested as he is so young he could wait for later. Nice and Mayor Pete -- sounds about right. De Niro described BLOOMBERG as could be the one. Exactly how I feel. It's particularly interesting to hear how NEW YORKERS feel about the two major NEW YORKERS in this race. The current president is massively unpopular among those people that know him the best. I'm sure Bloomberg doesn't have super high ratings there either but they've got to be much much higher relatively. 

 

Jing, old boy, you've totally allowed your irrational hatred for Trump the man to undermine whatever judgement you have hitherto managed to preserve.

 

De Niro is a brilliant actor, but when he offers us plebs his "political" opinions, he is a brilliant a$$hole.

And to offer HIS bleeding opinion on the course of American politics as a voice worth listening to serves only to undermine your own view of what American politics should be about.

 

 

[Jingthing]

And here he goes! Yes, I think this is a very good ad and people in the U.S. are getting saturated with it now. If he's not up to at least 10 percent within a month or two I'll be surprised.

 

 

[Cryingdick]

Thankfully Bloomberg saw the dem party was going to marry stupid with crazy and crashed the wedding.  Warren did everything she could to <deleted> off the billionaires. Well she can try to take the bull by the horns now.

 

Bloomberg has a couple of problems. One is blacks don't like him, another is if he is too far left on the environment he will have trouble in the 6 states that matter. If he goes into PA, OH, WI, MI and promises to end coal, fracking, and a number of issues that would make auto workers lose jobs he is DOA.

 

He should be able to school any of the other dems but won't be at the debates because of the rules. Maybe he can do his own town halls and invite whoever wants to come. It will be interesting to see how the far left deal with him. This could get ugly and I hope it does. 

 

Now you can say the dems have a more rounded field though. Socialists that hate Wall Street vs. a billionaire jew whose name is pretty much synonymous with anything market related. Hopefully Bloomberg win lose or draw can spank the socialism out of the dem party and stomp that craziness out forever.