roobaa01 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5555 early x-mas for donald of trump and lasting disgrace for dems 1. anti-trump and impeachment democrat VAN DREWS wants to join the republicans and meet with donald. 2. supreme court ruled in trumpy boys favour a. imo obliterates article 2 obstruction 100 %, hence 1 nonsense article left. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, roobaa01 said: 5555 early x-mas for donald of trump and lasting disgrace for dems 1. anti-trump and impeachment democrat VAN DREWS wants to join the republicans and meet with donald. 2. supreme court ruled in trumpy boys favour a. imo obliterates article 2 obstruction 100 %, hence 1 nonsense article left. wbr roobaa01 Also...Minnesota House Democrat Collin Peterson says he does not agree with this and will vote no on Impeachment! He says people in his district aren't in favour of giving aid any way....so holding up aid doesn't bother them in the least. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, J Town said: No. Any sane, rational person who looks at the blatantly criminal, utterly stupid acts Trump has done hates him. There may be some people who have benefited financially who look the other way. Judas did the same for 30 pieces of silver. Current polls have him at over 60% disapproval rating. That's millions more than "half the country." What poll? What blatant criminality? “Truth is not a left wing value.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: Also...Minnesota House Democrat Collin Peterson says he does not agree with this and will vote no on Impeachment! He says people in his district aren't in favour of giving aid any way....so holding up aid doesn't bother them in the least. ???? but VAN DREW said on fox, he was goin to leave the dem party in order to become a republican. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POMRAKSIAM Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Trump needs Ukraine to be the bad actor who influenced (not a shread of proof besides Fox's talking heads) 2016 so he can say it was them not Russian interference to lift sanctions for Putin. This is worth mega-billions and Trump must repay Putin for financing his business for 6+ billion ( Deutsche bank). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, POMRAKSIAM said: Trump needs Ukraine to be the bad actor who influenced (not a shread of proof besides Fox's talking heads) 2016 so he can say it was them not Russian interference to lift sanctions for Putin. This is worth mega-billions and Trump must repay Putin for financing his business for 6+ billion ( Deutsche bank). sounds like the media hoax cnn russian conspiracy. yes i forgot supreme court took up donald's case about his financials. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, tiptoejoe said: What crime has Trump committed? No prima facia case has been shown to date. The FBI on the other hand have committed crimes as the evidence now shows. Not much were needed for prima facia evidence as Trump’s abuse of power were in transcripts and admission on the WH lawn in front of cameras. Backed by his Acting Secretary of State Mulvaney open admission there were ‘favour’ and quid pro quo. Ambassador Sondland declaring under oath also said there was quid pro quo. Case closed. Meanwhile FBI IG have finalized the report and no evidence of Trump claim of witch-hunt. Some small errors were made but really Trump assertion of deep state were completely exonerated. The parallel investigation by Durham is still ongoing so really a nothing burger for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Angry Constituents Fire back at Adam Schiff in California over his abuse of power! Title of the video: They Didn't Buy His Schifft Adam Schiff will have some serious problems on his hands. It's being reported that the Gang of 8 intelligence briefing will be declassified by AG Bill Barr. It will prove that Adam Schiff "knowingly" disseminated false information. That about as serious as it gets. Small wonder that Schiff is laser focused on Trump's impeachment? No date given for the release of the declassified briefing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 46 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: If only Trump had such a vocabulary, he might be taken more seriously. His IQ of 96 always seems to work against him. The left seems to take him much more seriously than the right. To the right, any way you look at it, he’s far better than the alternative. To the left, he’s (apparently) the end of the world. Seems pretty serious to me, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Angry Constituents Fire back at Adam Schiff in California over his abuse of power! Title of the video: They Didn't Buy His Schifft Adam Schiff will have some serious problems on his hands. It's being reported that the Gang of 8 intelligence briefing will be declassified by AG Bill Barr. It will prove that Adam Schiff "knowingly" disseminated false information. That about as serious as it gets. Small wonder that Schiff is laser focused on Trump's impeachment? No date given for the release of the declassified briefing yet. I'm not surprised they are angry. Most democrat voters are happy with the basic system of democracy. They have a vote every 4 years and the winner is President and the loser consents to losing and has 4 years to improve on their platform to be ready to try again at the ballot. But the extreme Trump Derangement that has taken hold over some key media figures, and prominent globalist elites and by extension the viewers that trust these people has led to this attempt to unfairly overthrow Trump and by proxy end democracy as we know it. This is bound to be extremely unpopular with any logical participant. Either way, just the attempt to overthrow democracy by these evil people has guaranteed the democrat party will be un-electable for decades to come. The most likely outcome will be a name change and essentially formation of a new party, after much grovelling and apologizing and accepting they were so terribly wrong. The age of left wing fascism that swept the western world is on the way out. Thank you Donald Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Not much were needed for prima facia evidence as Trump’s abuse of power were in transcripts and admission on the WH lawn in front of cameras. Backed by his Acting Secretary of State Mulvaney open admission there were ‘favour’ and quid pro quo. Ambassador Sondland declaring under oath also said there was quid pro quo. Case closed. Meanwhile FBI IG have finalized the report and no evidence of Trump claim of witch-hunt. Some small errors were made but really Trump assertion of deep state were completely exonerated. The parallel investigation by Durham is still ongoing so really a nothing burger for now. Most of what you wrote is BS. The last part couldn't be more wrong. It's unbelievable how you could characterize altering an email to state that Page was 'not' a CIA asset when in fact he was a CIA asset in order to get the FISA on him approved as "some small errors were made." Are you serious? Have you been actually paying attention to the flood of information coming out regarding the Horowitz report? None of it is good. No one involved in the FISA applications and approvals is exonerated. Fact. The Steele dossier served as the entire basis for the FISA warrants. Fact. The FBI sent wired informants into the Trump campaign to gather information. Fact. Also: Brennan Lied About Not Including Steele Dossier In Intelligence Community Assessment On 2016 Russian Election Interference https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/09/brennan-lied-about-not-including-steele-dossier-in-intelligence-community-assessment-on-2016-russian-election-interference/ https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/brennan-steele-dossier-did-not-play-any-role-whatsoever-in-early-intelligence-assesements-1153421379595 Again, seriously, from your post above it seems you truly have no clue as to what is really happening. The Durham investigation "a nothing burger for now." Buddy, you have no idea how bad it's going to get. Many, many people are going to end up as burnt toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 hours ago, zydeco said: And what sort of an adult talks like this? It is unbelievable a US president tweets and talks like a 13 year-old. Commiecast? Trump: "Both Commiecast MSNBC & Fake News CNN are watching their Ratings TANK. Fredo on CNN is dying." I don’t care for much of his rhetoric, but after all the milk-toast rhinos he is refreshing. It is amusing the way they say anything they like about he and his family, then get all indignant when he responds. It is fake news, CNN’s ratings are tanking and Fredo is a leftist hack. That said, I did here Fredo take the FBI to task for their criminal activity. I’m guessing we’ll see CNN, ABC, NBC and SeeBS swing a little closer to the center in the months leading up to the election in an effort to get some credibility back. Happened last time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 46 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Angry Constituents Fire back at Adam Schiff in California over his abuse of power! Title of the video: They Didn't Buy His Schifft Adam Schiff will have some serious problems on his hands. It's being reported that the Gang of 8 intelligence briefing will be declassified by AG Bill Barr. It will prove that Adam Schiff "knowingly" disseminated false information. That about as serious as it gets. Small wonder that Schiff is laser focused on Trump's impeachment? No date given for the release of the declassified briefing yet. I forgot to mention the importance of the word "knowingly." That is one of the conditions needed to me met when one is brought up on charges of treason. Laugh all you want, libs. You have no idea what's coming down the pike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, POMRAKSIAM said: Trump needs Ukraine to be the bad actor who influenced (not a shread of proof besides Fox's talking heads) 2016 so he can say it was them not Russian interference to lift sanctions for Putin. This is worth mega-billions and Trump must repay Putin for financing his business for 6+ billion ( Deutsche bank). Not a shred of proof in your post, either. Hypocritical since you claim no proof of Ukrainian 2016 election interference? Fact is, there is proof of Ukrainian interference. Politico from Jan. 11, 2017 Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446 There's more than just that article. Shocking how so many posters have zero clue as to what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 7 hours ago, stevenl said: Your quote is not what the linked article says. Anything after 'significant' is not the conclusion of your link, as you're claiming with your post. I often read an article and come to a different conclusion than the article, what’s wrong with that? When you read do you assume that people rewriting copy and regurgitating the “official” conclusion are better equipped to think for you than you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: I'm not surprised they are angry. Most democrat voters are happy with the basic system of democracy. They have a vote every 4 years and the winner is President and the loser consents to losing and has 4 years to improve on their platform to be ready to try again at the ballot. But the extreme Trump Derangement that has taken hold over some key media figures, and prominent globalist elites and by extension the viewers that trust these people has led to this attempt to unfairly overthrow Trump and by proxy end democracy as we know it. This is bound to be extremely unpopular with any logical participant. Either way, just the attempt to overthrow democracy by these evil people has guaranteed the democrat party will be un-electable for decades to come. The most likely outcome will be a name change and essentially formation of a new party, after much grovelling and apologizing and accepting they were so terribly wrong. The age of left wing fascism that swept the western world is on the way out. Thank you Donald Trump. The Democrat party will go the way of the Whigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Not a shred of proof in your post, either. Hypocritical since you claim no proof of Ukrainian 2016 election interference? Fact is, there is proof of Ukrainian interference. Politico from Jan. 11, 2017 Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446 There's more than just that article. Shocking how so many posters have zero clue as to what they're talking about. The subject of the article is much more complex than the way you present it (and is well explained in the article). In particular, it is worth mentionning that Manafort was associated with the previous pro-Russia government and surely had no friends in the government that followed. Also worth mentioning is that Manafort was already under investigation by the FBI in 2014. Anyway Trump has been very clear in his statements: he was trying to attribute the Russian hacking of the DNC system to Ukraine with his ridiculous Crowdstrike conspiracy theory, instead of Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 hours ago, candide said: The subject of the article is much more complex than the way you present it (and is well explained in the article). In particular, it is worth mentionning that Manafort was associated with the previous pro-Russia government and surely had no friends in the government that followed. Also worth mentioning is that Manafort was already under investigation by the FBI in 2014. Anyway Trump has been very clear in his statements: he was trying to attribute the Russian hacking of the DNC system to Ukraine with his ridiculous Crowdstrike conspiracy theory, instead of Russia. https://www.independentsentinel.com/here-is-proof-dems-asked-ukraine-to-interfere-in-the-2016-election/ "Solomon has an on-the-record statement from their sitting ambassador in Washington that, in fact, Alexandra Chalupa, the DNC contractor, came to the Ukraine Embassy in 2016 and asked for help in finding dirt on Donald Trump in hopes of staging a congressional hearing to hurt Donald Trump in the fall election of 2016. "That is the Ukraine embassy’s on-the-record statement." Who is Alexandra Chalupa? So many threads to follow but if one believes there's nothing to be found then what's the point of looking, right? I doubt you'd do any real searching for info on the topic. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it. There is no evidence whatsoever tying Russia to the hacked DNC system. The Mueller report cannot confirm that it was Russian intelligence officers nor can they explain how the transfer was accomplished. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html Incredulously, not only was the FBI told to buzz off by the DNC when they first reported the "hack," but even more incredulously the Mueller team never even attempted a forensic inspection of the servers and relied solely on redacted, yes, redacted records provided by Crowdstrike. "Further, the government allowed CrowdStrike and the Democratic Party's legal counsel to submit redacted records, meaning CrowdStrike and not the government decided what could be revealed or not regarding evidence of hacking." <deleted>? Not only that, but former intelligence analyst William Binney and former CIA analyst Larry Johnson contend an examination of the Wikileaks DNC files does not support the claim that the files were obtained via the internet. Mathematics and physics would not allow the rate of transfer required via the Internet. And, I might add, Assange has not only stated that no foreign entity was behind it, offered to testify but was ultimately blocked from doing so (can't remember the cretin's name), and Mueller team did not attempt to interview him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, candide said: The subject of the article is much more complex than the way you present it (and is well explained in the article). In particular, it is worth mentionning that Manafort was associated with the previous pro-Russia government and surely had no friends in the government that followed. Also worth mentioning is that Manafort was already under investigation by the FBI in 2014. Anyway Trump has been very clear in his statements: he was trying to attribute the Russian hacking of the DNC system to Ukraine with his ridiculous Crowdstrike conspiracy theory, instead of Russia. My reply was getting lengthy (though I could go on). I did want to mention, too, the question of what that server contains. Trump isn't the only person interested to know. The fact that the DNC told the FBI to buzz off (imagine you or I doing that to the FBI), the fact that Mueller never did his own forensic inspection, nor interview the one man in the world who knew for sure, and allowed Crowdstrike and DNC lawyers to dictate what evidence could or could not be examined by the Mueller team smells so rotten and is so illogical that it's neigh on impossible for any rational person to go along with the stupid "narrative" which is endlessly propagated by the MSM and others. That insults my intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, atyclb said: generally agree. true obama was an eloquent speaker but bottom line is people dont care about eloquent speaking as much as they do jobs, economy, security. Actually, how people look and sound is all the left cares about. That’s why they hate Trump, he actually says what he means. He generally doesn’t go on for twenty minutes not answering a yes or no question. With all the left’s talk of “diversity”, they’ll tolerate no diversity of thought. Just look at their field of candidates, is one’s policy really any different than another? And so far, their first choice is a befuddled old white guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 8:11 AM, Kelsall said: "Freshman Dem who led impeachment charge: Let me get back to you next week on how I’m going to vote, okay?" https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/12/13/freshman-dem-led-impeachment-charge-let-get-back-next-week-im-going-vote-okay/ Better yet: Representative Jeff Van Drew, Anti-Impeachment Democrat, Plans to Switch Parties https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/14/us/politics/jeff-van-drew-democrat-republican.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Better yet: Representative Jeff Van Drew, Anti-Impeachment Democrat, Plans to Switch Parties https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/14/us/politics/jeff-van-drew-democrat-republican.html And that's what we know for sure....there have to be more under the radar....the dam is breaking.... be ready for a flood of 31 Dems voting against impeachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, RideJocky said: And so far, their first choice is a befuddled old white guy... First two choices, befuddled old white guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickrick Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Everyone take a deep breath. The guy will be re-elected. The Dems will take their circus acts as far as they can making this a blip for all the historians, Nancy gets a new job out of it and all the clowns like Adam Schiff, Nadler, Waters and others will continue what there doing for four more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Sad if that really happen as world leaders will continue to laugh at him. After 5 years ( that is quite a stretch), the question is really who will pardon him when he languish in jail. Deserving I must say. Your opinion is not the reality, but you keep hoping that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 A troll post containing unsubstantiated claims about Trump's IQ has been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 And now for some Sunday evening comedy from the impeachment sh!t show. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Sad if that really happen as world leaders will continue to laugh at him. After 5 years ( that is quite a stretch), the question is really who will pardon him when he languish in jail. Deserving I must say. Do you REALLY think Trump cares if the world leaders (or anyone else for that matter) laugh at him? He's got very thick skin. He will not, and I repeat not, spend any time in jail unless not committing a crime is punishable by jail time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Longcut said: CNN Politics’ Fact Check pointed out that Escobar and Jackson Lee either changed or omitted the word “us” when quoting the transcript in the markup session. The word “us” is significant because it implies Trump was asking for a favor of national interest, instead of a personal favor against a political rival. CNN Politics...... Fact Check...….. WHAT an oxymoron that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, HuskerDo said: Do you REALLY think Trump cares if the world leaders (or anyone else for that matter) laugh at him? He's got very thick skin. He will not, and I repeat not, spend any time in jail unless not committing a crime is punishable by jail time now. Anti trumpers have lost it completely....they actually think he's going to jail....going to be tried after leaving office. They will swallow any lame a$$ theory floated by the eternally hopeful 'pundits' on cnn and MSNBC. I would suggest that some respect for the office of the US president (if not the one who occupies it) is long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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