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Another kind of Thai racism

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7 hours ago, sanemax said:

Surely not allowing dogs cannot be racist .

If they just disallowed certain kinds of dogs, then, that would be racist 

That would be cynophobia, fear (hatred) of dogs.  Fear of Indian dogs would be xenophobic cynophobia. The Americans have it all figured out.

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  • I don’t consider that racism but targeted marketing instead. Racism would be to say that a certain race of people are not welcome, much like what a Western nation did in China a long time back (Dogs a

  • Surely not allowing dogs cannot be racist . If they just disallowed certain kinds of dogs, then, that would be racist 

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3 hours ago, roo860 said:

Vietnamese can, but unfortunately it's in the back of a sealed trailor.

Not very funny

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4 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

Not very funny

Never mind, you'll get over it.

5 minutes ago, metisdead said:

 

It is Pattaya related as per the image posted in the OP:

 

Indians.jpg

Yes I know that, I only answered another poster who commented "why" after I said

it should be in the Pattaya forum.

10 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I don’t consider that racism but targeted marketing instead.

Agreed. A "national" group now a large segment of the tourist market yet don't shop much in Central. Makes sense to make them feel more welcome and encourage them to spend more there. Hardly a big promotion, just a little something. Not even written in Hindi. ????

Is "Indian" a race?

How do you call dual pricing?

Racism against non Thais?

OP

 

Suggest you pass it over to the Thai "netizens".

 

Let them know that another nationality/ethnicity (not "race") is being given preference over Thais, in a Thai store.

 

They'll sort it for you.

 

 

12 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Not even written in Hindi

Quite stupid move as it would have avoided excitement among most of the expat (TV) community.

Similar to what they do with dual pricing, writing Thai prices in Thai/Thai numerals for most tourists to hide.

11 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

Racism means, that one group gets an advantage or disadvantage. Like "Black people have not the right to sit in a bus, but they are allowed to stand".

Surely in this case Indians have an advantage and other races have a disadvantage?

5 hours ago, roo860 said:

Vietnamese can, but unfortunately it's in the back of a sealed trailor.

you mean tailor?

So the Indians curry favor....

 

4 hours ago, rabas said:

That would be cynophobia, fear (hatred) of dogs.  Fear of Indian dogs would be xenophobic cynophobia. The Americans have it all figured out.

I see in the USA they sometimes allow dogs in flight cabins....emotional support animals. Would cynophobia trump that?

Regardless of how we understand it, explain it or classify the issue as being racist or not, any differentiation of one group by another excluding one or an other group is distasteful, and when based on nationality or perceived race (and even race) is socially clumsy and ignorant. 

 

 

 

I had to point this out with a Thai friend when he wanted to run a promotion in a bar, he wanted to attract more Westerners so offered a Westerner specific discount because Westerners drink more (in his idea). I asked him what if a Thai drank more, does he not deserve the same discount?... I had to explain that the discount is a good promotion but basing it on nationality or race would alienate and upset potential customers, offer the discount equally.

 

My friend understood, but it took some explanation to change his mind from what he initially thought was a good idea. Unfortunately many do not have 'people' around them to discuss such matter as such innocent ignorance and clumsiness commonly rears their ugly head in public. 

 

For the most part these issues are innocent, but as often reported on ThaiVisa.com can often offend when on the extremes of the 'innocently ignorant' spectrum in some cases leaning towards outright racism. 

 

 

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Very often, and as in the case of this thread, racism is in the eye of the beholder, it seems to me.

 

When I read the promotion to Indian customers, I saw it as simply that; the last thing that would have come into my mind is that it is a "racist" offer.  My mind simply doesn't work that way (and I am thankful for it).

 

Must we always be walking on eggshells, so fearful that we are (innocently) going to cause an affront to others by a casual remark or the printed word? 

 

For anyone who lives in that world, I truly feel sorry for you.

12 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

Nah! Too bad reputation. 

oh, the irony!

 

 

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5 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

sounds more like jealousy to me..

Yes, you are right. I am soooo jealous of the 100 Baht voucher. ????

13 hours ago, sirineou said:

Or you could become indian.

I cannot because I am a cowboy!   LOL

7 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Only Indians can take up the offer. Of course it's blatant racism.

 

Can you imagine the same offer being promoted in the UK? Think about it.

 

Firstly it woukd be illegal and secondly I guarantee that you would have a flash mob of protesters outside the store in minutes.

 

It would also be on the front page of every newspaper in the land.

The UK is too PC in my opinion. I have no issue if discounts or ‘special offers’ (as in this case) are being offered to selected groups. 
Blatant racism is 80% of the posts on TVF. 

13 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I don’t consider that racism but targeted marketing instead. Racism would be to say that a certain race of people are not welcome, much like what a Western nation did in China a long time back (Dogs and Chinese not allowed into parks). 

...exactly what the sign says...all else do not qualify...obvious discrimination.

20 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

I cannot because I am a cowboy!   LOL

...so an Apache, Sioux, Comanche, Aztec, and even Blackfoot should be ok.

Is an Indian passport holder indicative of race?

 

There are many British passport holders of Indian heritage who wouldn't

qualify for the voucher because they have the wrong passport.

 

I've just had a quick check online, to get Indian citizenship is quite a 

laborious task. It seem you have to be resident there for 12 years and

jump through a whole load of other hoops, so I probably wouldn't bother.

 

Not for 100 baht, that's for sure.

13 hours ago, Gweiloman said:


But you said yourself that racism is when one group gets an advantage ...Genuinely, I’m confused 

 

Vietnam and Thailand are members of ASEAN and have signed up to cross-border arrangements, as have members of the EU - do you think a Thai can enter EU for 16 days visa exempt?

I highly suspect this food isn't dining paradise either lol 

I bought a pair of shoes yesterday at

Hua Hin market village and received a B100 voucher (same as this) and I could spend it at KFC. It was not limited to any kind or nationality. Perhaps Pattaya is more LOS than HH. ????????

11 minutes ago, CelticTam said:

Vietnam and Thailand are members of ASEAN and have signed up to cross-border arrangements, as have members of the EU - do you think a Thai can enter EU for 16 days visa exempt?

I suggest you read the thread fully before posting and removing all doubts. 

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