Thailand preparing to cash in on trade ties with UK after Brexit

[nauseus]

18 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

If the vote had excluded EU citizens then YES would have won.

You didnt know about that?

I'll add it to the list of stuff you have no idea about regarding Scottish independence. 

Looks like you want to be dependent on Martians and minors for votes though.

[Rookiescot]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If the vote for Scottish independence had included England, you'd have been independent by now.

Don't expect to work in England without a work permit and VISA, same as any other 3rd world citizen though.

 

As for car manufacturing.

I'd be happy if England stopped all car importing, and manufacturing by foreign owned companies.

Make them all 100% English both parts and assembly, or choose another method of transport.

I'm glad to hear we can rely on your continued support for independence.

Now have a word with some of your Brexit voting chums who are wetting themselves over the very idea.

Maybe because they know the third world country you allude to will in fact be England.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

I'm glad to hear we can rely on your continued support for independence.

Now have a word with some of your Brexit voting chums who are wetting themselves over the very idea.

Maybe because they know the third world country you allude to will in fact be England.

Seems your next in-line first minister has a weeeee problem....The SNP is certainly racking them up eh.....????

[Rookiescot]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Seems your next in-line first minister has a weeeee problem....The SNP is certainly racking them up eh.....????

What problem?

Do you mean the North Korea wannabe that lives next door?

[Assurancetourix]

20 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

EU citizens living in Scotland were given a vote during the independence referendum because they lived there and the decision would affect them.

But of course in the Brexit referendum they were denied a vote because they wouldnt vote the right way. 

 

My point of view as French, I find that it is a monumental error to give the right to vote to non nationals; in any case for a national election which only concerns people with the nationality of the country;

[transam]

9 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

What problem?

Do you mean the North Korea wannabe that lives next door?

Do a search, I will give you a clue...."Text messages".....

[steve187]

On 2/4/2020 at 7:42 AM, mrfill said:

And Thailand should insist that their citizens can get 30 day visa exempt entry then.

at the IO's discretion,  if the IO doesn't like the look of them, lock them in a room until they are shipped back at their expense to Thailand

[Logosone]

On 2/5/2020 at 9:03 AM, Rookiescot said:

Now what exactly is the UK going to trade?

Anyone have any idea?

Well, there's Marmite. Morgans and TVR cars.  Dr Martens boots. Also the British now make excellent Tikka Masala ready meals.

 

 

 

 

[Logosone]

Did I read the lead article correctly, does it say that the UK has a massive trade deficit with Thailand of $1.4 billion?

 

"In this regard, trade between Thailand and England in 2019 totalled US$6.260 billion, down by 11.04 per cent from the same period last year, with Thai exports to the UK worth $3.843 billion. Major exports include processed chicken, cars and equipment, electrical circuits, gems and jewellery, motorcycle machinery, etc. Thailand’s imports from Britain amounted to $2.417 billion."

 

Oh this evil EU holding back the UK's mighty economy, it actually turns out the UK also has a trade deficit with Thailand.

 

How is that even possible?

 

How does Thailand export cars to the UK? Are they making this stuff up?

 

Edited February 6, 2020 by Logosone

[overherebc]

On 2/6/2020 at 12:35 PM, transam said:

Do a search, I will give you a clue...."Text messages".....

You might have to add a couple more clues I think.

 ????????

[transam]

18 minutes ago, overherebc said:

You might have to add a couple more clues I think.

 ????????

OK, a very embarrassed Scots first minister with another dodgy high ranker (spelled with an "r")....????

[Scot123]

21 hours ago, Logosone said:

Did I read the lead article correctly, does it say that the UK has a massive trade deficit with Thailand of $1.4 billion?

 

"In this regard, trade between Thailand and England in 2019 totalled US$6.260 billion, down by 11.04 per cent from the same period last year, with Thai exports to the UK worth $3.843 billion. Major exports include processed chicken, cars and equipment, electrical circuits, gems and jewellery, motorcycle machinery, etc. Thailand’s imports from Britain amounted to $2.417 billion."

 

Oh this evil EU holding back the UK's mighty economy, it actually turns out the UK also has a trade deficit with Thailand.

 

How is that even possible?

 

How does Thailand export cars to the UK? Are they making this stuff up?

 

Could well be. Here is the kicker that shows just how greedy and immoral Thai's are on their own people. Those cars made in Thailand and exported to the UK are cheaper in the UK than in Thailand and cheaper by 1,000's of £. Another thought for you: before the coup in 2006 I bought a new Triton in Thailand for 749,000baht which was about £11,000. This pickup was selling in the UK at the time for £30k. Now look at today the same pickup in Thailand is now its nearly double the price however it is less than £30k in the UK. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Scot123
Update

[ThomasThBKK]

36 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Could well be. Here is the kicker that shows just how greedy and immoral Thai's are on their own people. Those cars made in Thailand and exported to the UK are cheaper in the UK than in Thailand and cheaper by 1,000's of £. Another thought for you: before the coup in 2006 I bought a new Triton in Thailand for 749,000baht which was about £11,000. This pickup was selling in the UK at the time for £30k. Now look at today the same pickup in Thailand is now its nearly double the price however it is less than £30k in the UK. 

Same in Australia, thai made cars are cheaper there than here, even tho the transport must be super expensive.

[sandyf]

On 2/5/2020 at 11:20 AM, vogie said:

The 3 or 4 worst complainers on here just happen to be strong supporters of the SNP, a coincidence, I think not.

That could only come from someone that believes that all in favour of the brexit referendum were strong supporters of the conservatives.

It may come as a surprise to you but national interest and party politics are not one and the same.

[vogie]

25 minutes ago, sandyf said:

That could only come from someone that believes that all in favour of the brexit referendum were strong supporters of the conservatives.

It may come as a surprise to you but national interest and party politics are not one and the same.

What other interest has the SNP got other than breaking up our union, that's correct, none. It is about time they put the interest of Scotland before their own selfish goals. They are a total disgrace and it gets better by the day.????????

[Brigand]

Any trade deal here should depend on the Thai authorities extending good relations/conditions to UK citizens in Thailand or the UK should subject their (Thai) citizens in the UK to the same BS. No more Nazi regs from military junta thank you very much. Problem is, that our government is spinless and doesn't care about its citizens abroad and the British Embassy is awful at anything other than commenting vaguely if you die.

Edited February 8, 2020 by Brigand

[samran]

On 2/7/2020 at 3:41 PM, Scot123 said:

Could well be. Here is the kicker that shows just how greedy and immoral Thai's are on their own people. Those cars made in Thailand and exported to the UK are cheaper in the UK than in Thailand and cheaper by 1,000's of £. Another thought for you: before the coup in 2006 I bought a new Triton in Thailand for 749,000baht which was about £11,000. This pickup was selling in the UK at the time for £30k. Now look at today the same pickup in Thailand is now its nearly double the price however it is less than £30k in the UK. 

I’ve got some proud brexiters in another thread saying that this is ‘sovereignty’.
 

Clearly they don’t mind people paying over the odds for their blue passports. 

[codebunny]

On 2/5/2020 at 2:53 PM, Rookiescot said:

Does your expert in the field think the Thais are going to buy a satellite or more likely get it from China?

No. They're buying it from Airbus, as I already said. Have another read if you like, take your time...

On 2/5/2020 at 2:53 PM, Rookiescot said:

I dont need to do the math.

I think you do, and maybe the English too.

On 2/5/2020 at 2:53 PM, Rookiescot said:

The governments own figures show we will be worse off.

No they don't.

On 2/5/2020 at 2:53 PM, Rookiescot said:

But you already knew that. 

It's not factual, which you already knew, because you're trolling, not contributing.

[codebunny]

On 2/6/2020 at 9:18 AM, samran said:

All of this is irrelevant to the topic at hand though, the Uk didn’t need to leave the EU to sell satellites. 

How is it not relevant?

 

The point made was not about whether the UK needed to stay or leave to sell satellites, the assertion made was

1. that the UK had nothing to trade... which was answered, then came

2. how many spaceships will the UK sell... which was answered, then came

3. something about Chinese, and you expanding on what I already alluded to.

As you probably know, most of the tech expertise is in the former Astrium part of Airbus in Stevenage and Portsmouth. There are much fewer specialists in the non-UK parts of Airbus, because the focus is on aircraft. SSTL is for tiny projects, but as it's 99% owned by Airbus, it's used for jollies like that.

 

What relevance does you comment (or the one about selling satellites to China by someone else) have to whether the UK can form a trade deal with Thailand and export stuff?

I mean, you can probably think of a number of goods and services that the UK can realistically export to Thailand, and you can probably think of some goods (and maybe even some services) that Thailand might be keen to export to the UK, and some of those may be in the aerospace sector.

 

So... what is your point, exactly? Is it just to say that my comments are irrelevant, much like it is for the other commenter to try and slap down other people's comments, whilst showing poor spelling, very limited knowledge, and just coming across as a bit dim and quite ranty? 

 

Is that it? "We hate brexit waaaa! waaaa!", yeah, fine, it's done now, and no amount of naysaying is going to change the realities on the ground that London is still the world's main financial centre, Britain is still the 5th largest economy in the world, and that the UK still exports a wide range of high value, high tech, quality goods and services, and is not on the brink of a Venezualan style economic collapse; and why would you want it to?! Those goods and services can now be delivered more efficiently, and to any country that wants a bilateral deal, more cheaply, than from within the EU.

 

It's hard to work out what the point is of remainers now, what is their end game? just to keep banging the same drum until what? they were never right, nothing they said was ever true, they lied, they cheated, and they lost, and that's it, the end. The EU has been failing since it started in 1992, and it faces a much bigger challenge trying to turn its wobbly fragile economy around.

[codebunny]

On 2/7/2020 at 3:41 PM, Scot123 said:

Could well be. Here is the kicker that shows just how greedy and immoral Thai's are on their own people. Those cars made in Thailand and exported to the UK are cheaper in the UK than in Thailand and cheaper by 1,000's of £. Another thought for you: before the coup in 2006 I bought a new Triton in Thailand for 749,000baht which was about £11,000. This pickup was selling in the UK at the time for £30k. Now look at today the same pickup in Thailand is now its nearly double the price however it is less than £30k in the UK. 

 

On 2/6/2020 at 5:46 PM, Logosone said:

Did I read the lead article correctly, does it say that the UK has a massive trade deficit with Thailand of $1.4 billion?

 

"In this regard, trade between Thailand and England in 2019 totalled US$6.260 billion, down by 11.04 per cent from the same period last year, with Thai exports to the UK worth $3.843 billion. Major exports include processed chicken, cars and equipment, electrical circuits, gems and jewellery, motorcycle machinery, etc. Thailand’s imports from Britain amounted to $2.417 billion."

 

Oh this evil EU holding back the UK's mighty economy, it actually turns out the UK also has a trade deficit with Thailand.

 

How is that even possible?

 

How does Thailand export cars to the UK? Are they making this stuff up?

 

It is the EU holding back the UK, because we couldn't make a bilateral trade deal whilst in the EU, now we can. There's plenty of scope to change that trade deficit, but it will probably end up being one where quite different categories of product are traded in each direction.

On 2/7/2020 at 3:41 PM, Scot123 said:

Could well be. Here is the kicker that shows just how greedy and immoral Thai's are on their own people. Those cars made in Thailand and exported to the UK are cheaper in the UK than in Thailand and cheaper by 1,000's of £. Another thought for you: before the coup in 2006 I bought a new Triton in Thailand for 749,000baht which was about £11,000. This pickup was selling in the UK at the time for £30k. Now look at today the same pickup in Thailand is now its nearly double the price however it is less than £30k in the UK. 

  Thai import taxes on things like booze and cars would be on the list to go... and finally we could have some decent beer in Thailand!

36 minutes ago, samran said:

I’ve got some proud brexiters in another thread saying that this is ‘sovereignty’.
 

Clearly they don’t mind people paying over the odds for their blue passports. 

What on earth has that got to do with passports?!

[sandyf]

21 hours ago, vogie said:

What other interest has the SNP got other than breaking up our union, that's correct, none. It is about time they put the interest of Scotland before their own selfish goals. They are a total disgrace and it gets better by the day.????????

Try addressing the point made, not your own paranoia.

[vogie]

13 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Try addressing the point made, not your own paranoia.

The point was addressed, you just don't like the answer. I feel the SNP are becoming very wobbly and their wheels are starting to come off and with that their followers are having to resort to more and more insults. Name calling seems normal to some SNP members, indeed obligatory.

Why would I be paranoid, seems to me the SNP are the ones that carry that flag.

 

"There are conspiracy theorists galore in every political party, always seeking to blame some malign force or dastardly plot for any and every misfortune that befalls their heroes and their cause.

Having said that, nothing in this respect holds a candle to the SNP and its activists; everything that goes wrong is somebody else’s fault. And if it’s something really serious then there’s only one culprit: Perfidious Albion. 

The British state and whichever party forms its government is behind every dirty trick, every calamity that befalls the SNP and its bid to break up the United Kingdom. At times this paranoia – there is no other word for it – takes on a ludicrous form; nowhere more than the current difficulty that Alex Salmond, its former leader and one-time First Minister of Scotland, is enduring over the fact that the police are investigating allegations that he sexually harassed two civil servants...."

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2018/08/27/paranoid-snp-activists-blame-british-state-alex-salmond-inquiry/

 

 

 

 

[samran]

10 hours ago, codebunny said:

How is it not relevant?

 

The point made was not about whether the UK needed to stay or leave to sell satellites, the assertion made was

1. that the UK had nothing to trade... which was answered, then came

2. how many spaceships will the UK sell... which was answered, then came

3. something about Chinese, and you expanding on what I already alluded to.

As you probably know, most of the tech expertise is in the former Astrium part of Airbus in Stevenage and Portsmouth. There are much fewer specialists in the non-UK parts of Airbus, because the focus is on aircraft. SSTL is for tiny projects, but as it's 99% owned by Airbus, it's used for jollies like that.

 

What relevance does you comment (or the one about selling satellites to China by someone else) have to whether the UK can form a trade deal with Thailand and export stuff?

I mean, you can probably think of a number of goods and services that the UK can realistically export to Thailand, and you can probably think of some goods (and maybe even some services) that Thailand might be keen to export to the UK, and some of those may be in the aerospace sector.

 

So... what is your point, exactly? Is it just to say that my comments are irrelevant, much like it is for the other commenter to try and slap down other people's comments, whilst showing poor spelling, very limited knowledge, and just coming across as a bit dim and quite ranty? 

 

Is that it? "We hate brexit waaaa! waaaa!", yeah, fine, it's done now, and no amount of naysaying is going to change the realities on the ground that London is still the world's main financial centre, Britain is still the 5th largest economy in the world, and that the UK still exports a wide range of high value, high tech, quality goods and services, and is not on the brink of a Venezualan style economic collapse; and why would you want it to?! Those goods and services can now be delivered more efficiently, and to any country that wants a bilateral deal, more cheaply, than from within the EU.

 

It's hard to work out what the point is of remainers now, what is their end game? just to keep banging the same drum until what? they were never right, nothing they said was ever true, they lied, they cheated, and they lost, and that's it, the end. The EU has been failing since it started in 1992, and it faces a much bigger challenge trying to turn its wobbly fragile economy around.

Look, you make a lot of decent points but it kind of misses the reason of my original comment.

 

Basically what was happening were a couple of posters saying ‘look, now brexit is happening the Thais are coming to look at our satellites and we’ve made an investment in Australia...brexit is working’.

 

My only point was that you didn’t need brexit to do those things.

 

The proof in the pudding of brexit from an economic standpoint is whether the economic benefit of being linked closely to the EU is replaced - and then some - with your other trade relationships post brexit.

 

I’m not confusing the two, but many others are.

[Rookiescot]

14 hours ago, codebunny said:

No. They're buying it from Airbus, as I already said. Have another read if you like, take your time...

I think you do, and maybe the English too.

No they don't.

It's not factual, which you already knew, because you're trolling, not contributing.

So Airbus is a European company yes?

The governments own risk assessments over Brexit show a contraction for the economy regardless of which Brexit it is. Basically the harder the Brexit the worse it is.

So yes they are facts. Something you Brexiteers seem to have an allergic reaction too.  

[sandyf]

9 hours ago, vogie said:

The point was addressed,

Garbage.

Just to remind you here is the point again.

 

That could only come from someone that believes that all in favour of the brexit referendum were strong supporters of the conservatives.

It may come as a surprise to you but national interest and party politics are not one and the same.

 

 

[codebunny]

8 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

So Airbus is a European company yes?

It's a transnational corporation, with outposts in many countries, and HQ in France, so probably French.

It's European in the original sense of being based in the continent of Europe.

The EU is not Europe, it's just one of many organisations based on the continent of Europe, as you probably know.

8 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

The governments own risk assessments over Brexit show a contraction for the economy regardless of which Brexit it is. Basically the harder the Brexit the worse it is.

No they don't.

8 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

So yes they are facts. Something you Brexiteers seem to have an allergic reaction too.  

They're not facts, they are the opposite of facts. Is it not clear yet?

[codebunny]

12 hours ago, samran said:

Look, you make a lot of decent points but it kind of misses the reason of my original comment.

 

Basically what was happening were a couple of posters saying ‘look, now brexit is happening the Thais are coming to look at our satellites and we’ve made an investment in Australia...brexit is working’.

 

My only point was that you didn’t need brexit to do those things.

I understand your point, but the couple of posters are essentially saying that the world is flat and the UK is about to fall off the edge, which is obviously utter bolox.

I disagree that you didn't need brexit to do those things because the EU compelled the UK to negotiate as part of the EU and not independently. The EU is clearly terrified of the UK becoming a compeititor, which it will, and the EU is doomed. It will be dragged out over the next 10+ years, but the EU has no future. It's over, just like the Labour party. People are slow to realise the implications of the current situation, but if you take the time to think it through, you will see which way the wind is blowing.

 

12 hours ago, samran said:

The proof in the pudding of brexit from an economic standpoint is whether the economic benefit of being linked closely to the EU is replaced - and then some - with your other trade relationships post brexit.

 

I’m not confusing the two, but many others are.

When the UK seals a trade deal with the USA, it will rattle the EU badly.

It may well be a superficial one, with the details to be worked out later, but both Trump and Boris are sufficiently aligned and switched on that they know that it's of mutual benefit to create a good news story, so they'll do it. This will put pressure on other world leaders to join the momentum to secure their own currency and electoral success.

 

Germany is in a real bind, it benefits in terms of exports by all the weaker EU economies dragging down the value of the Euro, but the price it pays for that "empire", is having to fund these weak economies. Hoping against hope that the Italian banking crisis risk doesn't emerge.

 

Add to that, the additionally very real threat of a Chinese banking crisis, which nobody is talking about. When the sh!t hits the fan, it's economies like the UK and US that will provide the safe havens for the rest of the world's flimsy economies. Deny what you like, but London is the still the most important city in the world, and there's no realistic drivers to change that.

[sjaak327]

On 2/3/2020 at 12:36 PM, Laughing Gravy said:

Waiting for all the doomsayers who want the UK to fail after a democratic referendum and the people voted out.

 

Not to worry there is a big world outside of the EU and Thailand would be smart to take the opportunity to trade with the UK.

GIve it a few years and there hardly is anything to trade with the UK. It boggles the mind how those people voted in favor of Brexit, didn't even bloody think. Emotion is never a good guideline. The UK will find out. It is hardly rocket science. One tiny little country, or >20, only an idiot would believe that the negotiation power of the latter would be the same as that of the former. You cannot fix stupid. 

[bartender100]

22 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

GIve it a few years and there hardly is anything to trade with the UK. It boggles the mind how those people voted in favor of Brexit, didn't even bloody think. Emotion is never a good guideline. The UK will find out. It is hardly rocket science. One tiny little country, or >20, only an idiot would believe that the negotiation power of the latter would be the same as that of the former. You cannot fix stupid. 

Say what you like, but the Dutch, Italians and possibly Poland will not be far behind us in leaving, I am a very happy idiot amongst my 17.5 million fellow idiots

 

The future is very bright for the UK, countries are cuing up to trade with us, while Germany goes into recession, France is paralysed by strikes, and Italy has not a cats chances of paying off their debt unless it defaults

[sjaak327]

10 minutes ago, bartender100 said:

Say what you like, but the Dutch, Italians and possibly Poland will not be far behind us in leaving, I am a very happy idiot amongst my 17.5 million fellow idiots

 

The future is very bright for the UK, countries are cuing up to trade with us, while Germany goes into recession, France is paralysed by strikes, and Italy has not a cats chances of paying off their debt unless it defaults

Only time will tell, but If I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet on what you say, as it simply defies logic. As to the Dutch leaving the EU, not in a million years. Where do you get your information from I wonder ? Boris ?