Cabinet imposes controls on masks, synthetic yarn for masks and sanitizers

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Cabinet imposes controls on masks, synthetic yarn for masks and sanitizers

 

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The cabinet has endorsed the Commerce Ministry’s proposal to add face masks, the synthetic yarn used to produce them, sanitizers and the import of scrap and recycled paper to the list of controlled products, the production, distribution, import and export of which are now subject to control by the Internal Trade Department.

 

Controlling face masks, sanitizers and synthetic yarn is intended to ensure sufficient supply due to high demand as a result of the novel coronavirus outbreak in China and concerns over the spread of the virus in Thailand, which attracts ten million Chinese tourists annually.

 

Informed cabinet sources explained that the move to control the import of scrap and recycled paper is because imports have increased substantially after prices plunged sharply, following China’s decision to ban such imports. China had been the world’s largest importer of scrap and recycled paper.

 

Source: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/cabinet-imposes-controls-on-masks-synthetic-yarn-for-masks-and-sanitizers/

 

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[AussieBob18]

WHEN SHOULD YOU USE A MASK?

Although many people are wearing masks to protect themselves from coronavirus, experts stress these should only be used by people who are already sick or by health professionals when doing things like taking swabs from sick patients.

“We don’t recommend the masks for general use,” Professor Ramon Shaban of the University of Sydney and Western Sydney Local Health District told news.com.au.

Although health professionals are using them as a precaution, it’s actually more important to practice good hand hygiene because coronavirus is not an airborne virus and is spread through droplets.

Prof Shaban said if you don’t clean your hands properly and then rub your eye, mouth or nose, this can actually pass on the infection, even if you have a mask on.

“Masks are not the great answer people think they are,” he said.

However, people who are sick should wear a mask when they go to the doctor to limit the droplets being released into the air when they sneeze or cough.

Prof Shaban said the best thing to do to avoid infection is to wash your hands regularly, use an alcohol based rub afterwards and avoid large crowds where individuals may be unwell.

 

 

 

 

[4MyEgo]

25 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said:

Although health professionals are using them as a precaution, it’s actually more important to practice good hand hygiene because coronavirus is not an airborne virus and is spread through droplets.

Let me get this right, so if the bloke opposite me, sneezes in my direction and I do not have a mask on, I won't catch it if he has it, um, I think I will continue taking my chances with wearing an M3 N95 mask as the above doesn't make sense to me......just saying.

 

I know there are no guarantees if wearing a mask, but covering up has a better chance of not getting it, me thinks.

[CelticBhoy]

A monotonous job pictured right there. How tedious would that be?

Shouldn't they be wearing gloves to make the masks?   ????

[rabas]

Whether people monopolize them or the government controls them, what difference is it to me?  

 

Glad I stocked up early, won't need to get in long, crowded lines to get masks every 90 days. Will we need forms? VM9?

 

[AussieBob18]

18 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Let me get this right, so if the bloke opposite me, sneezes in my direction and I do not have a mask on, I won't catch it if he has it, um, I think I will continue taking my chances with wearing an M3 N95 mask as the above doesn't make sense to me......just saying.

 

I know there are no guarantees if wearing a mask, but covering up has a better chance of not getting it, me thinks.

If the droplets enter any applicable part of your body - such as though the eyes - you can catch the infection.  That that is why you see pictures of people wearing a plastic bottle/covering over their heads. The virus is not airborne (like measles) it is transmitted by droplets from a cough or sneeze, and also by contaminated hands on objects.   That is why they recoomend you wash hands frequently - we all touch our faces a lot.

 

The reality of a mask is that it traps the droplets.  If you wear a cheap mask for more than 15-20 minutes it will become wet from your own breath and more absorbant of any droplets, which you will then breath into your body. I have no idea how long a M3N95 mask will not become absorbant - but I would expect it to be longer than that.  Masks are good for someone who has the infection (or any cold/flu) as it stops them transmitting the infection to others.  In the past when you saw people wearing masks (especially in Asia) it is not for blocking infections from others, it is for not ransmitting the infection to others. 

 

Sure wear a mask - but replace it every 15-20 minutes - and wear eye (ear?) protection - and also keep hands clean - and dont touch your face - and dont walk/sit near anyone coughiong or sneezing - and dont go to China - and avoid airports and malls and other indoor tourist places - and as written on the front of that book "Dont Panic" as it will all be over soon one way or the other ???? 

 

 

   

[Bundooman]

32 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Let me get this right, so if the bloke opposite me, sneezes in my direction and I do not have a mask on, I won't catch it if he has it, um, I think I will continue taking my chances with wearing an M3 N95 mask as the above doesn't make sense to me......just saying.

 

I know there are no guarantees if wearing a mask, but covering up has a better chance of not getting it, me thinks.

The additional problem there is that while you are wearing a mask, the droplets exploding from the person sneezing can enter your body via the eyes, ears and skin pores.

We in the west are taught by our parents to put our hand over our mouths, nose/use tissue/handkerchiefs.

Chinese just let it rip - no self awareness of contamination by sneezing at will over food or in your direction.

Thai people are generally the same.

I remember seeing a colour photograph once of a sneeze. It was explosive, covering a huge area and disgusting to see. 

And we all live in Asia. 

[Sunderland]

1 hour ago, AussieBob18 said:

WHEN SHOULD YOU USE A MASK?

Although many people are wearing masks to protect themselves from coronavirus, experts stress these should only be used by people who are already sick or by health professionals when doing things like taking swabs from sick patients.

“We don’t recommend the masks for general use,” Professor Ramon Shaban of the University of Sydney and Western Sydney Local Health District told news.com.au.

Although health professionals are using them as a precaution, it’s actually more important to practice good hand hygiene because coronavirus is not an airborne virus and is spread through droplets.

Prof Shaban said if you don’t clean your hands properly and then rub your eye, mouth or nose, this can actually pass on the infection, even if you have a mask on.

“Masks are not the great answer people think they are,” he said.

However, people who are sick should wear a mask when they go to the doctor to limit the droplets being released into the air when they sneeze or cough.

Prof Shaban said the best thing to do to avoid infection is to wash your hands regularly, use an alcohol based rub afterwards and avoid large crowds where individuals may be unwell.

I stopped reading that at "because coronavirus is not an airborne virus"

Dear me. Don't trust social media or mainstream media. Read a bit more and learn.

[Sunderland]

50 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Let me get this right, so if the bloke opposite me, sneezes in my direction and I do not have a mask on, I won't catch it if he has it, um, I think I will continue taking my chances with wearing an M3 N95 mask as the above doesn't make sense to me......just saying.

 

I know there are no guarantees if wearing a mask, but covering up has a better chance of not getting it, me thinks.

Absolutely. Why the hell are medical workers wearing masks if it can't be caught from people sneezing or coughing in their direction????

This directive to not wear masks is plain stupid. I see it only as a way to calm people down because they know they won't have enough masks for everyone for the next 1-2 or 5-6 months.

[Sunderland]

14 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

The additional problem there is that while you are wearing a mask, the droplets exploding from the person sneezing can enter your body via the eyes, ears and skin pores.

We in the west are taught by our parents to put our hand over our mouths, nose/use tissue/handkerchiefs.

Chinese just let it rip - no self awareness of contamination by sneezing at will over food or in your direction.

Thai people are generally the same.

I remember seeing a colour photograph once of a sneeze. It was explosive, covering a huge area and disgusting to see. 

And we all live in Asia. 

Wear goggles and a respirator and you will give yourself a better chance than everyone else who doesn't wear a mask. Nobody thinks it is 100% effective, but if you protect your face and wash your hands frequently, and especially after you return home, then the probability of not catching the virus will be much more in your favour. Anyone who disputes that is not thinking logically.

[AussieBob18]

"The new coronavirus is a respiratory virus which spreads primarily through contact with an infected person through respiratory droplets generated when a person, for example, coughs or sneezes, or through droplets of saliva or discharge from the nose. It is important that everyone practice good respiratory hygiene. For example, sneeze or cough into a flexed elbow, or use a tissue and discard it immediately into a closed bin.  It is also very important for people to wash their hands regularly with either alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.."

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

 

"Airborne spread happens when a germ floats through the air after a person talks, coughs, or sneezes. ... Airborne spread diseases include: chickenpox, tuberculosis. Droplet spread happens when germs traveling inside droplets that are coughed or sneezed from a sick person enter the eyes, nose, or mouth of another person."

http://kanehealth.com/Documents/Diseases/Ebola-infections-spread-by-air-or-droplets.pdf

 

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/world-health-organisation-declares-global-emergency-over-coronavirus/news-story/753f7e873b30f5e20d7e150dd2a9062e

 

Airborne transmitted infections are far more contagious than Droplet transmitted infections.

 

 

 

 

[Curt1591]

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

China had been the world’s largest importer of scrap and recycled paper.

My mother-in-law's dentist told us that she can't get more masks because her supplier has run out. Possibly China has become the world's largest importer of masks. Good chance for Thai manufacturers to clear out the warehouses! 

[4MyEgo]

This video more or less from my understanding is saying, don't worry to much about the Coronavirus, be more concerned about the flu as it wipes out tens of thousands of people per annum, but we don't here about it too much in the news.

 

When I Googled influenza earlier I came up with between 290,000 to 650,000 people die every year world wide from the flu.....W.......T.......F and because the Coronavirus is a new strain, e.g. animal to humans we are worried because we don't know much about it.

 

I remember my doctor telling me in October to get my flu shot when I got back to Thailand, i.e. after a brief holiday back home, he had been giving me flu shots for years prior to me moving here, he said Thailand probably had different strains of the flu, so best get a shot here, go figure.

 

I think I will take up his advice and go and get me a shot.

 

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/481257-why-are-we-panicked-about-coronavirus-and-calm

[justin case]

3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Let me get this right, so if the bloke opposite me, sneezes in my direction and I do not have a mask on, I won't catch it if he has it, um, I think I will continue taking my chances with wearing an M3 N95 mask as the above doesn't make sense to me......just saying.

 

I know there are no guarantees if wearing a mask, but covering up has a better chance of not getting it, me thinks.

as most virus come into your body via your EYE BALL

[justin case]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

I think I will take up his advice and go and get me a shot.

still mis-informed

 

the flu shot is a GAMBLE of big pharma, LAST YEAR of what eventually would come out this year

 

look up excipients

 

The Ingredient: Aluminum Salts
In: Most vaccines
Use: Boosts body’s response to the vaccine

The Ingredient: Sugar or gelatin
In: Most vaccines
Use: Preservative   

The Ingredient: Formaldehyde
In: Most vaccines
Use: Kills viruses or inactivates toxins
The CDC says: “Formaldehyde is diluted during the vaccine manufacturing process, but residual quantities of formaldehyde may be found in some current vaccines. The amount of formaldehyde present in some vaccines is so small compared to the concentration that occurs naturally in the body that it does not pose a safety concern.”

The Ingredient: Antibiotics
In: Most vaccines
Use: Prevents bacterial contamination

The Ingredient: Thimerosal
In: Some vaccines; mostly multi-dose vials
Use: Preservative
The CDC says: “Thimerosal has a different form of mercury (ethylmercury) than the kind that causes mercury poisoning (methylmercury). It’s safe to use ethylmercury in vaccines because it’s processed differently in the body and it’s less likely to build up in the body — and because it’s used in tiny amounts. Even so, most vaccines do not have any thimerosal in them.”

The Ingredient: Egg proteins
In: Some Vaccines
Use: Growing the vaccine
The CDC says: “Because influenza and yellow fever vaccines are both made in eggs, egg proteins are present in the final products. However, there are two new flu vaccines now available for people with egg allergies. People who have severe egg allergies should be vaccinated in a medical setting and be supervised by a health-care professional who can recognize and manage severe allergic conditions.”

[AussieBob18]

2 hours ago, Sunderland said:

I stopped reading that at "because coronavirus is not an airborne virus"

Dear me. Don't trust social media or mainstream media. Read a bit more and learn.

I guess you didnt read my last response and have stayed ignorant about the difference between doplet and airborne transmission. You need to read a lot more and learn.

[4MyEgo]

22 minutes ago, justin case said:

still mis-informed

 

the flu shot is a GAMBLE of big pharma, LAST YEAR of what eventually would come out this year

 

look up excipients

 

The Ingredient: Aluminum Salts
In: Most vaccines
Use: Boosts body’s response to the vaccine

The Ingredient: Sugar or gelatin
In: Most vaccines
Use: Preservative   

The Ingredient: Formaldehyde
In: Most vaccines
Use: Kills viruses or inactivates toxins
The CDC says: “Formaldehyde is diluted during the vaccine manufacturing process, but residual quantities of formaldehyde may be found in some current vaccines. The amount of formaldehyde present in some vaccines is so small compared to the concentration that occurs naturally in the body that it does not pose a safety concern.”

The Ingredient: Antibiotics
In: Most vaccines
Use: Prevents bacterial contamination

The Ingredient: Thimerosal
In: Some vaccines; mostly multi-dose vials
Use: Preservative
The CDC says: “Thimerosal has a different form of mercury (ethylmercury) than the kind that causes mercury poisoning (methylmercury). It’s safe to use ethylmercury in vaccines because it’s processed differently in the body and it’s less likely to build up in the body — and because it’s used in tiny amounts. Even so, most vaccines do not have any thimerosal in them.”

The Ingredient: Egg proteins
In: Some Vaccines
Use: Growing the vaccine
The CDC says: “Because influenza and yellow fever vaccines are both made in eggs, egg proteins are present in the final products. However, there are two new flu vaccines now available for people with egg allergies. People who have severe egg allergies should be vaccinated in a medical setting and be supervised by a health-care professional who can recognize and manage severe allergic conditions.”

So your saying were damned if we do and damned if we don't, or up sh-t creek ????

 

[Scott Tracy]

Sounds like it's time to get the old Noddy Suits out again.

 

NBC suits to those not familiar with the term.

[PETERTHEEATER]

Synthetic yarn? Is that a new term for fake news?