IvorBiggun2 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) I reckon he announced it himself due to fear he was going to be outed by someone. After having made his wife believe for 27 years that he loved her he's made himself out, and her, to be foolish. How can anyone trust in what he says. What a totally selfish <deleted> he turned out to be. Now we wait and see what comes of his announcement. The real reason why he came outta the closet after 27 years. Edited February 9, 2020 by IvorBiggun2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Why? You don't you think that's evidence for his ridiculous assertion, do you? Anecdotal. However, but sorry I'm not going to bother to dig up the links, I do recall a study documenting that very outspoken homophobic men are more likely to have repressed gay feelings than the baseline. Of course not all of them but a correlation. It makes sense. If you're a repressed gay person and you think it's shameful and you're in a homophobic social environment, what better way to broadcast that you're not gay than to be an obnoxious gay basher? But I get the common complaint that gay people think almost everyone is gay. There are some gay people that seem to think that and I think that's obnoxious. In fact, I don't think the often touted 10 percent rule is really true. I think there is strong evidence that only about 2 to 3 percent of typical human male populations are exclusively gay. There is of course the range of sexuality thing that is real as well. Which brings up women. Arguably their sexuality is a lot more fluid than men (to be crass, they don't need to get it up), as in the phenom of college lesbians. Edited February 9, 2020 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 One thing is for certain. The British press will now hound him and his family day and night until the find some exclusive story or a kiss and tell. They won’t be satisfied that there isn’t “more to it” Even with all the Coronavirus stuff, this story is the front pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said: I reckon he announced it himself due to fear he was going to be outed by someone. After having made his wife believe for 27 years that he loved her he's made himself out, and her, to be foolish. How can anyone trust in what he says. What a totally selfish <deleted> he turned out to be. Now we wait and see what comes of his announcement. The real reason why he came outta the closet after 27 years. Piers Morgan ripped into him and Willoughby last month over the repeatedly rigged result of ITV 'best daytime hosts' awards. Morgan was so incensed that he boycotted the awards altogether and had a damn good rant. I have no idea whether or not they actually get on but working for the same network must have caused friction between the 4 (Susannah Reid being Morgan's on screen equivalent to HW). HTH Edited February 9, 2020 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Some troll posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigInBangkok Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 15 hours ago, MiNombreEsFicticious said: Starred on TV with a puppet? I'll have you know there was nothing wrong with Gordon the Gopher! I don't care where he puts his wang aslong as its not near me! I find all this shouting from the rooftops about being "insert definition here" to be completely unnecessary as I am pretty sure nobody gives a toss about anyone elses sexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigInBangkok Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, evadgib said: Piers Morgan ripped into.... Another one who I could'nt care less what he has to say or think. He really is a slimy human being. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said: Another one who I could'nt care less what he has to say or think. He really is a slimy human being. <deleted post> Edited February 9, 2020 by evadgib 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigInBangkok Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, evadgib said: Flagging yourself as a 'rainbow warrior' is entirely your prerogative and makes no difference to the point I thought I had raised. I am in no way a 'rainbow warrior' and my comment about Morgan had zero to do with your post... I saw his name and that was it. EDIT: thats why I didn't quote your whole post Edited February 9, 2020 by CraigInBangkok 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 How could he be gay after looking up Holly's skirt for years go cool off in Barrymore's pool for a few years and never come back???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, CraigInBangkok said: I am in no way a 'rainbow warrior' and my comment about Morgan had zero to do with your post... I saw his name and that was it. In that case I'll take it down ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: Dunno about that, if I were his misses I'd worry about him banging guys then coming home and banging me. Just like a lot of couples, I suspect the sexual side of their relationship died long ago. I would think she's known for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said: Another one who I could'nt care less what he has to say or think. He really is a slimy human being. Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Kadilo said: One thing is for certain. The British press will now hound him and his family day and night until the find some exclusive story or a kiss and tell. They won’t be satisfied that there isn’t “more to it” Even with all the Coronavirus stuff, this story is the front pages. I don't think they will, P&H are daytime favourites and the press will have to walk a fine line about not been seen as homophobic, besides it's trendy these days to be "different". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvorBiggun2 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 You don't live with someone for 27 years and have a normal sex life, as surely the act would repulse you being the gay person. And you can't tell me he hasn't had sex with a male in those 27 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chelseafan Posted February 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: That's not practical but it's something that straight people often say because they lack the consciousness and imagination of what it would really be like to grow up where everyone assumes you're straight by default. Straight people broadcast their orientation all the time! I'm sure you do too. Family pictures on the desk. Talking about who you're dating now, who your girlfriend is, etc. No they don't. When has anyone come out as straight? I've never spoken to anyone outside my family about my sexual preferences. I have a gay lad who works for me and he never discusses his sexuality because it's his own affair not mine or anyone else. If he wants to discuss it then great but that's up to him. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: No they don't. When has anyone come out as straight? I've never spoken to anyone outside my family about my sexual preferences. I have a gay lad who works for me and he never discusses his sexuality because it's his own affair not mine or anyone else. If he wants to discuss it then great but that's up to him. Sorry I don't believe you. People assume you and everyone else is straight by default. Your gay lad well you know he's gay so there you go. I think alot of this is so invisible to straight people that they just can't process the reality of it. Edited February 9, 2020 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CraigInBangkok Posted February 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Sorry I don't believe you. People assume you and everyone else is straight by default. Your gay lad well you know he's gay so there you go. I think alot of this is so invisible to straight people that they just can't process the reality of it. I think gay people make far too much of thing out of it as adults. As far as I know nobody cares. In the industry I work/worked in at certain bigger companies, its even advertised if you are different, why? Again nobody cares just get on with your life the same as we all have too. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said: I think gay people make far too much of thing out of it as adults. As far as I know nobody cares. In the industry I work/worked in at certain bigger companies, its even advertised if you are different, why? Again nobody cares just get on with your life the same as we all have too. It depends on your specific social situation. You absolutely cannot make universal generalizations. I have an example. I used to know a guy in one of the most liberal towns in the USA. So liberal that it was the butt of jokes for being so liberal. But he was blue collar and worked in a grocery store in a very macho. homophobic work environment. He was miserable and felt like he needed to stay closeted. It may well be that years later the situation in that store is much better. I do not know. But its a big world where there are still scads of countries where being gay is illegal or even carries the death penalty. Even in countries where gay marriage is legal there are still macho cultures where homophobia is rampant and deeply ingrained. You can pass laws but you can't force people to change their attitudes. Edited February 9, 2020 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigInBangkok Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: It depends on your specific social situation. You absolutely cannot make universal generalizations. I have an example. I used to know a guy in one of the liberal towns in the USA. But he was blue collar and worked in a grocery store in a very homophobic work environment. He was miserable and felt like he needed to stay closeted. It may well be that years later the situation in that store is much better. I do not know. But its a big world where there are still scads of countries where being gay is illegal or even carries the death penalty. Even in countries where gay marriage is legal there are still macho cultures where homophobia is rampant and deeply ingrained. You can pass laws but you can't force people to change their attitudes. I can only speak about my personal experiences and the places I have been(although many, the USA is not one of them). Yes, there will be small minded people(and guess what, the majority doesnt care about them too) but I still don't think there is any need to shout about it. Surely this would only cause those that do get offended by it to get even more angry and cause more problems for anyone who is gay. At the end of the day, like you say, you cant force people to change their attitudes and I am sorry to say, if a country carries the death penalty for being gay no ammount of coming out and being proud will change that. Me and everyone that I associate with, doesn't care what you do and pretty sure peoples feeling towards me are the same. If I think you are ok, we are good and if not, we can deal with each other only if we have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said: You don't live with someone for 27 years and have a normal sex life, as surely the act would repulse you being the gay person. And you can't tell me he hasn't had sex with a male in those 27 years. You and I know nothing about their relationship, you're just making assumptions. As I said before not every relationship conforms to the perceived "norm". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IvorBiggun2 Posted February 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: You and I know nothing about their relationship Yes we do know something. He preferred someone of the same sex as himself. If he'd came out as bisexual then I can accept he enjoyed sex with his wife for 27 years. But he didn't and that means, in my mind, that he was repulsed by having to have sex with her. Similar to what you'd feel if you had to make love to another man for 27 years. I'm assuming you are straight? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 About as newsworthy these days as somebody telling the world they are actually grey but have been dying their hair for years, no big deal and nobody should care, except the poor wife of course. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarky cat Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 hours ago, BritManToo said: Dunno about that, if I were his misses I'd worry about him banging guys then coming home and banging me. yes. AIDS is no laughing matter, especially when passed on intentionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 22 hours ago, cyril sneer said: shame on him Shame on a guy who had a complicated time to tell others the truth? I take my hat off. He's got balls, hasn't he? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said: Shame on a guy who had a complicated time to tell others the truth? I take my hat off. He's got balls, hasn't he? Not really. What's so special about being gay? Feedback seen elsewhere suggests PS was getting stuck into a runner at ITV & was set to be outed; either by the runner or by a named co host but for the life of me I cannot see why they're making such a meal of it....yet. Edited February 9, 2020 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 hours ago, BritManToo said: How about if you're a bit drunk and the ladyboy is fairly convincing with his clothes on? Not a problem, after a few Leos nothings going to happen without chemicals...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, CGW said: Is the village idiot having a day off? offended over what? ???? Obviously you have taken offence - Bye! I think you will find that you were the one getting offended cos this guy had come out, but you keep on projecting ???? Edited February 9, 2020 by PremiumLane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said: Yes we do know something. He preferred someone of the same sex as himself. If he'd came out as bisexual then I can accept he enjoyed sex with his wife for 27 years. But he didn't and that means, in my mind, that he was repulsed by having to have sex with her. Similar to what you'd feel if you had to make love to another man for 27 years. I'm assuming you are straight? Firstly we don't know how long he was gay, secondly there are different spectrums of gay. It's not as simple as saying that you're gay or hetro and not all gay people are repulsed by sex with a woman, some people have a very narrow-minded view. I still stand by my initial point, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvorBiggun2 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Chelseafan said: Firstly we don't know how long he was gay, secondly there are different spectrums of gay. It's not as simple as saying that you're gay or hetro and not all gay people are repulsed by sex with a woman, some people have a very narrow-minded view. I still stand by my initial point, who cares? Yes we do know how long he's been gay. You don't just become gay when you turn 30 or any other time. Your genetic footprint is already written at birth. If not all gay men are repulsed by sexual contact with a woman then they must be bisexual. In this case he doesn't admit to being bisexual so he's quite obviously gay and is proud to get up and state that. There fore leaving his poor wife thinking 'in 27 years how did I not see that'? I assume that will leave her needing counselling. Some people have a very narrow minded view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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