jackdd Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: However, foreigners need to be aware that they are still required to inform immigration if they change address permanently. [This is covered in form TM27]. This is not what the law / order says. 2 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: The previous requirement stated that foreigners who had stayed in another province for more than 24 hours were required to inform their local immigration office when they returned. The previous requirement never stated this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspinoff Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 so just recap ,,,,, do we still need slip of paper in our passport with our address on it .. if we don't have one will we get a fine ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, docspinoff said: so just recap ,,,,, do we still need slip of paper in our passport with our address on it .. if we don't have one will we get a fine ??? Yes and yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted February 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, ParkerN said: The Thais will pretend it was a great victory and that they struck a blow for efficiency and optimisation. Woo hoo! Good innit? Even the bad ones are good in the Thai reality distortion zone. Hmmmm. You know 99.95% thai people not know about this form right? Not care about this form. Never talk about this form. You need adjust your reality distortion zone. You imagine thai people care about this. Do people in your country know about immigration forms? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yinn said: Thanatorn will not give up. He will win in the future. Sure He is to smart, the other guy, to stupid. Yeah, but Thanathorn cannot fight the submarines. Joke!. But all the same, unfortunately Thanathorn is going to have a long hard impossible struggle, but the real thing is the old generation Hi so elite and military need to lay over and bow out. Times are changing and there is no place for these stupid archaic dinosaurs controlling young Thai and the new generation anymore. I speak for my children and their children. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Assurancetourix said: When I asked Sakon Nakhon Immigration the question, the chief replied: drop the snow, it makes no noise ... Clearly, he told me, don't worry, we at Sakon Nakhon, we don't care ... That's really interesting, I was there last month and asked the question as I was doing my marriage extension, i.e. I asked, with regard to the TM30 am I still required to report online when I return from being out of my province for more than 24 hours, and his reply was YES, Sakon Nakhon office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yinn said: Hmmmm. You know 99.95% thai people not know about this form right? Not care about this form. Never talk about this form. You need adjust your reality distortion zone. You imagine thai people care about this. Do people in your country know about immigration forms? 99.99% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugg Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: However, foreigners need to be aware that they are still required to inform immigration if they change address permanently. [This is covered in form TM27]. Never heard of this one before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLawOnline Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 JackDD is same guy who was complaining when the petition was done. And TM 28 was included in our petition. "Furthermore, the TM28 form (notification of temporary change of address) is ineffective as most police stations do not know what it is and often won’t accept it, even though Section 37 (4) of the Immigration Act plainly says it can be submitted to a local police station." See www.reform-thai-immigration.com The site is not secure SSL but no problem, should disappear soon. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspinoff Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, jackdd said: Yes and yes so how do we get a slip of paper in passport we don.t fill in a TM28 or get a TM30 slip from landlord who live in tim buk too ????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: good question, you could argue that's pointless too if your permanent residence in Thailand remains the same Funny thing is before this TM30 thing came about last year, my wife got pulled up by the immigration officer about me having exited the country and not reporting to immigration when I got back to my province, i.e. when I applied for a re-entry permit at Swampy, it was given to me with no words uttered, so I had no idea that I had to report to immigration when I got back. The immigration officer picked up the re-entry stamp in my passport when he was doing my marriage extension a couple of months later, he said, please, whenever you leave the country and come back to your province, you must come and see us within 24-48 hours at the very latest, only because you live further than most, we can be a little lenient, I said, but immigration where I entered Thailand have entered me into the system when I came in, yes, he said yes, but we are not linked, really I said, yes he said, raising his eyebrows as if to show he was embarrassed, the next re-entry permit I got from them instead of Swampy and he said to me, don't forget to come and see us within 24-48 hours when you get back to your province to let us know your back, and if you enter in a different province and are staying there for a week, e.g. Phuket, you can go to the local police and get a letter from them to give to us that you reported to them, they will know what to give you. When I did arrive at Phuket, I just let it slide, as I had registered for the TM30 and my wife completed it online as we were staying at a hotel. The above said, I just do what these guys tell me, no point in rocking the boat, they are pleasant and provide the information without me asking, as for the immigration officer at swampy, he probably didn't give a rats a$$. I go back at the end of the month to get my stamp for the marriage extension and will ask again, now that it appears to be changing again, so frigen confusing oi. Edited February 20, 2020 by 4MyEgo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Dough Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Thaivisa: Great news. you don't have to report your address after short visits any more. Membership: That's all very well, but do you have to report your address after short visits, that's what we want to know. Rooster 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted February 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jane Dough said: Thaivisa: Great news. you don't have to report your address after short visits any more. Membership: That's all very well, but do you have to report your address after short visits, that's what we want to know. Rooster You ,the foreigner doesn't need to do TM28 reports But you, the housemaster, owner or possessor of a property still has to report a foreigner staying or returning, including if that foreigner is you , TM30 Edited February 20, 2020 by Peterw42 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, docspinoff said: so how do we get a slip of paper in passport we don.t fill in a TM28 or get a TM30 slip from landlord who live in tim buk too ????? If the landlord is living in Timbuktu this probably means that you are renting the place. This makes you the possessor and in your function as possessor of the property you have to inform immigration police about foreigners staying there, using form TM30. So you report yourself with a TM30, that's what you have to do according to the law, and then you have the receipt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspinoff Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, jackdd said: If the landlord is living in Timbuktu this probably means that you are renting the place. This makes you the possessor and in your function as possessor of the property you have to inform immigration police about foreigners staying there, using form TM30. So you report yourself with a TM30, that's what you have to do according to the law, and then you have the receipt. great very clear .. i should have google a possessor lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, trainman34014 said: You still have to do TM30 when you get back ! Not according to the article. The hotel still reports me staying at the hotel. I dont report returning to my condo. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Not according to the article. The hotel still reports me staying at the hotel. I dont report returning to my condo. The article has nothing to do with TM30 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, tropo said: That could be it. I was Jomtien Immigration last week after the holiday and there were thousands visiting and apart from a few tourists, the only people wearing masks were the staff. Ironically, the "idiot who shall not be named" at the front counter asked me where my wife was when I told him I'm reporting for both of us. No staff member has ever asked me that before and I've been reporting for both of us for 10 years. I suppose he figured there weren't enough people in there already, but the place was more packed than I've ever seen it before. I put on my mask LOL. You should have said she was in self isolation as a patient under investigation for COVID19. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 51 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: I was there last month and asked the question as I was doing my marriage I think we don't have the same relationship, you and I with immigration officers in Sakon. They call me by my first name; I cycle with one of them who lives in Udon Thani, that's why he is not there every day ... and they know that my oldest daughter is (almost) married to a river police captain .. All this creates links. I will occasionally go to the northern provinces for cycling I went to Prachuap Khiri Khan 3 or 4 months ago. I have never signaled my return to the Sakon IO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspinoff Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, jackdd said: The article has nothing to do with TM30 well sorry but it seems it does .. as if you don't now do a tm28 you will have to do a tm30 .. or someone will . to get a date stamped slip of paper with your address on it in your passport ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabradelmar Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just more confusing news.... Tomorrow will bring a yet new and different update.... Then you still have the uneven enforcement and understanding on the individual IO to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovethai123 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, gunderhill said: So will they be refunding all those fines they dished out? Are you drunk ? Anything that goes in a thai's pocket is never returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, trainman34014 said: You still have to do TM30 when you get back ! No you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 57 minutes ago, docspinoff said: well sorry but it seems it does .. as if you don't now do a tm28 you will have to do a tm30 .. or someone will . to get a date stamped slip of paper with your address on it in your passport ... Just do it once surely...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advocate Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Chicken George said: So.. No more reporting TM30. Which our local IO insisted I do even for one night away from my permanent address? The article says TM30 still applies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucegoniners Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Who does this anyway. Uh, I'm going to Bangkok for 2 nights, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Destiny1990 Posted February 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2020 They should have petitioned about TM 28 so than the TM30 would have been scrapped ! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Advocate Posted February 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2020 This is just another example of Thai Immigration Bureau causing confusion between TM28 and TM30 to benefit the commercial Immigration Service Providers. The whole issue of address reporting by house-owners is a disgrace and is not required in any other country that I know of. The worst aspect of this apart from the inconvenience to foreigners, is that Thai Immigration Bureau does nothing with the information and they accumulate piles of paper documents that nobody ever examines or analyses. The piles of paper documents are stored in warehouses and never applied for any useful purpose. TM28, TM30, and 90 day reporting requirements should be scrapped. The requirement to submit countless paper documents with visa extensions and 90-day reporting by mail should also be scrapped. Once Thai Immigration have received a paper document they should never require that document to be submitted again because they already have it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie65 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 How would immigration ever know unless you told them? I've been living in Thailand for over 10 years, and I have traveled to every providence in Thailand many times, and never once did I ever think of reporting to immigration about having traveled outside of Chonburi... And never will!!! #MAGA2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Georgie65 said: How would immigration ever know unless you told them? I've been living in Thailand for over 10 years, and I have traveled to every providence in Thailand many times, and never once did I ever think of reporting to immigration about having traveled outside of Chonburi... And never will!!! #MAGA2020 The hotel you stay in reports you to immigration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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