Why dont more co-habit ?

[The Cobra]

Seems to me there are a fair few of single retired guys around Thailand. I was wondering why there arent more that co-habit.

The preverbial batchelor pad, nice house etc maid to keep it clean and shared by 3 or 4 guys looking out for each other. Share the expenses but still totally independent. Surely that would make good financial sense too and a better way of living than on your own.

Would you share or prefer to be on your own ? (This is for this not in relationships obviously.)

 

 

 

Edited February 26, 2020 by The Cobra

[pgrahmm]

Nope, preferred it on my own with a couple of spare rooms & a maebaan in a couple of times a week....Had company in or out when I wanted it in or out....

Didn't have to worry about others good/bad habits or behavior - schedule or tv times, programs, etc....

This type of living stopped for me when I grew up....

Most end up getting manipulated or catering to others that want to be co-dependent in some way....Some overt, some slyly....

[FritsSikkink]

Must be sad if you can't afford a home for yourself in Thailand. 

[Airalee]

In the US, a 2br was 50% more than a one br. And a 3br was 33% more than a 2br.

 

**numbers used to show proportions only...not representative of actual rents**

 

500...750...1000 for example.  So...500...375...333 would be the rent.  
 

Here, more often than not, each additional bedroom is the same price as the first...or at least much closer

 

500...950...1400.   So...500...475...466

 

The savings aren’t worth it.

[Peckerhead]

What a lovely idea, Cobra.

 

Three people could certainly rent a nice gaff, outside areas, bigger living space, bigger private space for 27K then individually at 9K. Communal car, bikes & bills would be great.

 

Decent key money deposits & a careful vetting process would be required.

 

Human nature, of course, is a different matter.

 

Would you do it?  

[1FinickyOne]

4 hours ago, The Cobra said:

shared by 3 or 4 guys looking out for each other.

should that read shared by 3-4 guys getting really sick and <deleted> off at each other? 

 

as challenging as it is to live w/a wife, I think guys would be much more difficult and throw in typical old age and the dementia element with grumpy old man syndrome and it is not pleasant... 

[CharlieH]

Nice house , maybe with a pool, possible 75% reduction in living costs, people around if you had a health issue. Got to be better for some than living in a small condo or room somewhere.

For those older on a smaller income would make senses and probably an improvement too.

[1FinickyOne]

16 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

would make senses and probably an improvement too.

listening to the same people spout their political opinions every day... or whatever you have both read on the news... telling the same story that they told you yesterday or 30 minutes ago... and after you inform them, they continue w/the story anyway... not really an improvement on solitude... I like to go out w/friends [Ross and Rachel and Chandler], but not live with them.

[thaibeachlovers]

A place to yourself in LOS is easily affordable. If I had flatmates that wanted to watch sports on the tv I'd go mental.

[BritManToo]

17 hours ago, Peckerhead said:

What a lovely idea, Cobra.

Three people could certainly rent a nice gaff, outside areas, bigger living space, bigger private space for 27K then individually at 9K. Communal car, bikes & bills would be great.

Decent key money deposits & a careful vetting process would be required.

Human nature, of course, is a different matter.

Would you do it?  

I'd do it, but I've never managed to stay single long enough to try it.

I seem to fill wherever I am with women and children.

 

Edited February 27, 2020 by BritManToo

[CharlieH]

17 hours ago, kenk24 said:

should that read shared by 3-4 guys getting really sick and <deleted> off at each other? 

 

as challenging as it is to live w/a wife, I think guys would be much more difficult and throw in typical old age and the dementia element with grumpy old man syndrome and it is not pleasant... 

If that happened you simply move on, no issue in that, not as if you MUST stay there is it. Free to go whenever you like in that situation. 

[1FinickyOne]

6 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

If that happened you simply move on, no issue in that, not as if you MUST stay there is it. Free to go whenever you like in that situation. 

I guess that would depend on the investment... that was always the old hippie ideal... you can have more if you share, but people get on each others nerves in close proximity and as I get older, I find that often times, when people get on each others nerves later in life, they have less tolerance for trying to get along... and between grumpy old man syndrome and the inevitable beginning signs of dementia, people can get tedious...

 

many years ago, a friend moved in to a condo complex with a big pool... I went to visit him and he had all these new friends, each he told me was interesting... and they would sit around the pool and chat... I went back a year later and the same guys were there, all sitting separately, pretty much fed up with each other... 

[pgrahmm]

37 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A place to yourself in LOS is easily affordable. If I had flatmates that wanted to watch sports on the tv I'd go mental.

Along with territorial skirmishes over kitchens, food, bathrooms, degrees of untidyness/cleanliness, unwanted company & conversations, visitors & overnights, private time entertaining guests, music tastes & volume levels.....

Everybody could end up sequestered in their rooms to avoid the others....

 

Kinda like here on TV - and we don't even have to look at, or speak to, each other

[CharlieH]

3 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

I guess that would depend on the investment... that was always the old hippie ideal... you can have more if you share, but people get on each others nerves in close proximity and as I get older, I find that often times, when people get on each others nerves later in life, they have less tolerance for trying to get along... and between grumpy old man syndrome and the inevitable beginning signs of dementia, people can get tedious...

 

many years ago, a friend moved in to a condo complex with a big pool... I went to visit him and he had all these new friends, each he told me was interesting... and they would sit around the pool and chat... I went back a year later and the same guys were there, all sitting separately, pretty much fed up with each other... 

I think (dont know) the OP is based on renting a shared property so freedom t go would be there if not suited.

[tonray]

23 hours ago, kenk24 said:

listening to the same people spout their political opinions every day... or whatever you have both read on the news... telling the same story that they told you yesterday or 30 minutes ago... and after you inform them, they continue w/the story anyway... not really an improvement on solitude... I like to go out w/friends [Ross and Rachel and Chandler], but not live with them.

It would be like living in a Thai Visa forum..no thanks

[1FinickyOne]

20 minutes ago, tonray said:

It would be like living in a Thai Visa forum..no thanks

That really sums it up... people tend to be repetitive and that gets boring... a nasty side is also present... and when shown, you can't un-say some of the stuff... and none of it gets better with age.. 

 

it's nice to go out with friends, but nice to go home too... 

 

what would be surprising to many TVF members... my wife is from a huge family and they never get on my nerves, they are always kind and helpful and respect each others privacy... 

[advancebooking]

12 hours ago, pgrahmm said:

Along with territorial skirmishes over kitchens, food, bathrooms, degrees of untidyness/cleanliness, unwanted company & conversations, visitors & overnights, private time entertaining guests, music tastes & volume levels.....

Everybody could end up sequestered in their rooms to avoid the others....

 

Kinda like here on TV - and we don't even have to look at, or speak to, each other

exactly. in the golden yrs who could cope with sharing a house again. Its a dumb idea. grumpy alcoholic old guys

in one household. got to be a nightmare

[neeray]

Home alone. Even better than the movie!

[Pedrogaz]

Why would I want to live with other guys?

[BritManToo]

30 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

exactly. in the golden yrs who could cope with sharing a house again. Its a dumb idea. grumpy alcoholic old guys

in one household. got to be a nightmare

Quite a lot of old people end up in care homes, or retirement homes.

How is it different?

 

100 people sharing a condo building Vs 3 people with their own rooms in a 3 bedroom house.

Again, how is it different?

 

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by BritManToo

[Saltire]

I had to do this out of neccessity about 20 years ago in the UK. Just trying to recover financially from a punishing divorce, I took in 2 professional colleagues who were working on a local construction project - we were all employed by the same company, but they were on an away-from-home allowance. It was good money and tax free due to a government scheme encouraging this. However when the contract finished I did not take further lodgers.

 

I had a large detached house (which I held on to by the skin of my teeth) so space was not an issue. They were two very good, honest and sometimes amusing company. You couldn't ask for 2 nicer guys to share with. Yet I was glad to see them go and get my space back. At the start they went home to their families every Friday and drove back on a Monday morning direct to the site so weekends were unchanged. Then they realised they could save a bit of money by not going home at all. This really retricted my weekend activities and I found it just too much. I'd not do it here in Thailand either, though economically it sounds great if you are on a tightening budget.

[justin case]

for one : immigration ... and house owner : contract with multiple farangs, people moving out, in, having to send tm30 etc all the time...

[Yinn]

Good idea. Be fun.

i would enjoy sharehouse with @transam because I could help him and @Nyezhov would be funny. And @CharlieH so everyone follow the house rule.

 

maybe we can live with @villagefarang at his nice house?

[Gracas]

Sharing a house with 3 - 4 other guys, NEVER going to happen. This maybe Ok when you are young, but as you get older I don't see any reason for this.

Now if you are suggesting sharing a house with 3 - 4 girls that is a different story, although you would need to have some sort of rotation system with the girls.

[Jaxxper]

Nice idea if you’ve got 3 people that enjoy all the same things. I’ve shared houses/apartments with people during my working life, and it’s not great no matter how close you are. I personally wouldn’t go that way as I like my own space, and inevitably if one of the group doesn’t pull his weight or wants to bail early then can cause problems,  but each to his own. Not sure the Baht savings would justify it or would indeed living in a better / bigger place.

just my opinion.

[yellowboat]

Because you have more than one girlfriend ?

[DeathShroud]

No way would I do this, again.

I did this in the 90s, barely scraping by, doing part-time work as a bouncer at a dance bar in SW Ohio.

 

This guy that I knew roped me in to this idea that everything would be super cheap because we'd be splitting bills five ways.

 

One guy poured hot grease down the sink after cooking his french fries and then poured cold water on top of that...so we had to hire a plumber.  He was just have the guy who had a bunch of guns and he would sit around cleaning them, the door to his bedroom open, working the action and dry firing very loudly.

 

In the basement there was a refrigerator for long term deep freeze meat storage and one of the guys went in there unbeknownst to the rest of us and looked inside but didn't properly close the door so $1,500 worth of meat melted...the house stank for two weeks plus flies were everywhere, 2 weeks more.  Had to hire a professional carpet cleaner.

 

Another guy was rampantly cheating on his girlfriend and bringing  the new girl to the pad  while his regular girl that he was engaged with would be pushed off with some work bul<deleted> work excuse and then he was asking us to cover for him and handle his social media calendar  when she would call if he was banging his girlfriend. 

 

Finally  he  ran through whatever series of side pieces and then took his main girlfriend on a surprise xmas trip and while he was gone his plane was delayed.

 

Everyone else from the house was gone for the holidays also.

 

Didn't leave anybody in charge of his pet, nor did he tell or direct anyone to be responsible for his fish while he was gone.... we were on vacation anyway... and so his expensive japanese blowfish died and then he blamed everybody else.

 

Another guy was a type of one-way skinflint that would say "hey, let's get a pizza !" and we order this pizza and then when it comes time to pay the guy who said let's get a pizza says "oh, I don't have any money..." so then we eat the pizza and he just sits there bitching that he is hungry.

 

That situation got Complicated by the fact that his girlfriend was a 911 phone operator who was always stressed out and so she was pretty much sexually compulsive and he would never want to take her out for dates and so she would hit on the rest of us.

 

I could see how this can work for a group of mature military discipline two guys who are veterans from the West.

 

 I still want to just stay alone.

 

I think the above situation would be just 5 times more complicated given Thailand as a location and all the drama that men and women get up into.

 

[xeniv23]

Would rather do a Swan Dive into an open cesspool.  

[elgenon]

On a related note, I always wonder how a visiting group of, say 6, goes out every day and night together.

[RocketDog]

14 hours ago, CharlieH said:

If that happened you simply move on, no issue in that, not as if you MUST stay there is it. Free to go whenever you like in that situation. 

If each is free to go whenever, then the rent each pays could be changing monthly; pretty unstable. 

Also, one person could end up holding the bag and the rent, so there would have be rules.