Health minister criticizes man for lying about a recent trip to COVID-19 high-risk country

 

 

Thailand’s Public Health Minister has criticized a 65-year old man for not telling medics that he had recently returned from a high risk country and for exposing 30 medics and his family to COVID-19.

 

“If he had not been detected fast enough, he could have become a super-spreader, like an elderly woman in South Korea,” said the minister at a news conference today.

 

The minister also confirmed 3 new COVID-19 cases in Thailand, including the man who contracted the virus during his trip to the northern Japanese city of Hokkaido, his wife and an eight-year old nephew.  The three are now being treated at Bamrasnaradura Infectious Diseases Institute in Nonthaburi province.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/health-minister-criticizes-man-for-lying-about-a-recent-trip-to-covid-19-high-risk-country/

 

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"If he had not been detected fast enough sought medical attention on his own while gasping for breath, sweating profusely from his fever and coughing up sputum, he could have become a super-spreader, like an elderly woman in South Korea,” said the minister at a news conference today."

 

  Fixed that for you, Mr. Health Minister.

"If he had not (been detected fast enough) sought medical attention on his own while gasping for breath, sweating profusely from his fever and coughing up sputum, and the hospital staff had not suspected that he was not giving them accurate clinical information, he could have become a super-spreader, like an elderly woman in South Korea,” said the minister at a news conference today."

 

Fixed that for you, Mr. Appleton

Edited February 26, 20206 yr by SkyFax

This man was "detected" much in the same way that Prayut was "elected"

 

Thailand, land of the fake -teds.

Just to note per Thailand situation update on 25 February 2020:

 

Total number of people who met the criteria of patients under investigation (PUI) - 1,798 

Sought medical services on their own at hospitals - 1,711
(Private hospitals: 921 cases, Government hospitals: 790 cases)

Those rigorous screening procedures of all incoming passengers really paying off then.  

At least he can't pin it on the damned foreigners this time. 

7 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

Those rigorous screening procedures of all incoming passengers really paying off then.  

You want to take an omnibus whack here OK but I will just say kudos to the B-Care hospital staff who detected that something is not right with this picture and they were not getting straight answers from positive patient who last report is in critical condition

Edited February 26, 20206 yr by SkyFax

The Health Minister can't really take credit for "detecting" someone when, in fact, they didn't detect jack squat until well after the fact - by which time the PUI may have infected 30 hospital staff, scores of classmates of his infected child, and who knows how many others.  

 

Implying that quick detection prevented the PUI from becoming a so-called "super spreader" is inane, given the circumstances.

5 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

The Health Minister can't really take credit for "detecting" someone when, in fact, they didn't detect jack squat until well after the fact - by which time the PUI may have infected 30 hospital staff, scores of classmates of his infected child, and who knows how many others.  

 

Implying that quick detection prevented the PUI from becoming a so-called "super spreader" is inane, given the circumstances.

From the OP: "If he had not been detected fast enough, he could have become a super-spreader, like an elderly woman in South Korea,” said the minister at a news conference today"

 

I don't read where the Health Minister is really taking credit for it.

When will people learn not to visit hospitals and clinics on their own, but instead call the hospital and have them check you at home.

So it wasn't a non complying farang, it was one of his own, a Thai, oh well, the usual applies then, 500 baht fine and a wai.

Edited February 26, 20206 yr by 4MyEgo

37 minutes ago, SkyFax said:

You want to take an omnibus whack here OK but I will just say kudos to the B-Care hospital staff who detected that something is not right with this picture and they were not getting straight answers from positive patient who last report is in critical condition

Would they have thought outside the square if he went to a government hospital, just saying......

Lying in Thailand is a common daily occurrence so nothing new here.  

One think I can't figure out.

Why? Why did he lie about being abroad?

Im wondering if there are any hotel guest contracted the virus yet considering the amount of hotel rooms available in Thailand would they put that hotel in lockdown? 

1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

At least he can't pin it on the damned foreigners this time. 

Going by his previous outburst, might he perhaps refer to the 65 year-old man as 'ai Thai'?

 

Edited February 27, 20206 yr by bluesofa
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They asked this man if he had been to a high risk country!! Since when is Hokkaido Japan a high risk country?? And how should he/we know that??

 

I would also have said NO to that question. Japan was late in having the virus, China, Korea Thailand Singapore had it first. Chinese are still welcomed in Thailand.

 

Why didn't they ask him in which country he had been? 

 

What's the list of high risk countries today? Is Thailand also on it?

1 minute ago, Thian said:

They asked this man if he had been to a high risk country!! Since when is Hokkaido Japan a high risk country?? And how should he/we know that??

 

I would also have said NO to that question. Japan was late in having the virus, China, Korea Thailand Singapore had it first. Chinese are still welcomed in Thailand.

 

Why didn't they ask him in which country he had been? 

 

What's the list of high risk countries today? Is Thailand also on it?

Semantics. If someone in this scenario asked me if I'd been to a high-risk country, my first reaction would be to tell them specifically where I had been and ask which exactly the high-risk countries are. Everyone is aware of this virus now. When medical professionals ask you questions, you answer them as truthfully and openly as possible. 

The main person I would criticise for lying about the virus is Trump. Everything from he has personally shut it down, its under control, a vaccine is coming any day now, his early intervention has saved america etc.

14 minutes ago, Thian said:

They asked this man if he had been to a high risk country!! Since when is Hokkaido Japan a high risk country?? And how should he/we know that??

 

I would also have said NO to that question. Japan was late in having the virus, China, Korea Thailand Singapore had it first. Chinese are still welcomed in Thailand.

 

Why didn't they ask him in which country he had been? 

 

What's the list of high risk countries today? Is Thailand also on it?

The report yesterday says:

"On February 23, a Thai man was admitted to the hospital due to pneumonia, high fever and cough. He denied he had a recent history of travelling to a high-risk country for Covid-19. Only after a doctor tested him again and he was probed, he finally admitted that he had visited a high-risk country."

 

It seems it wasn't about whether the patient thought he'd been to a high-risk country, but the fact he'd lied to start with, then admitted it.

 

2 hours ago, SkyFax said:

Just to note per Thailand situation update on 25 February 2020:

 

Total number of people who met the criteria of patients under investigation (PUI) - 1,798 

Sought medical services on their own at hospitals - 1,711
(Private hospitals: 921 cases, Government hospitals: 790 cases)

from 25 Feb, so two or three days old...

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no53-250263.pdf

 

PUI and under treatment, neither of which represent "confirmed" cases on a steady upward trend.

 

They've got to be able to diagnose and separate cases faster. I'm not sure anyone knows what's going on? Thai social media might actually have some of the most accurate and up to date information?

 

One person needs to be put in charge, and that one person needs to update the public at least twice a day. This is the time for a leader to step in.

 

 

18 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

The report yesterday says:

"On February 23, a Thai man was admitted to the hospital due to pneumonia, high fever and cough. He denied he had a recent history of travelling to a high-risk country for Covid-19. Only after a doctor tested him again and he was probed, he finally admitted that he had visited a high-risk country."

 

It seems it wasn't about whether the patient thought he'd been to a high-risk country, but the fact he'd lied to start with, then admitted it.

 

Maybe he wasn't lying...I read a lot and haven't read anywhere that Hokkaido Japan is a high risk country. And even if it is then they should cancel the whole Olympics right now....

 

They should have asked where he had been, maybe he (like me) had no idea that Japan is a high risk country. And Thailand better bans all flights from high risk countries.

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

This is the time for a leader to step in.

 

 

  If only there was a Prime Minister or someone like that....

Looking at hgis passport not an option then ?  Just asking 

 

7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

So it wasn't a non complying farang, it was one of his own, a Thai, oh well, the usual applies then, 500 baht fine and a wai.

Easy please, it's only a life threatening virus - nothing really serious like.................  (fill in your own idea here) 

7 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

One think I can't figure out.

Why? Why did he lie about being abroad?

Face, can't tell the truth at any cost. 

5 hours ago, Thian said:

Maybe he wasn't lying...I read a lot and haven't read anywhere that Hokkaido Japan is a high risk country. And even if it is then they should cancel the whole Olympics right now....

 

They should have asked where he had been, maybe he (like me) had no idea that Japan is a high risk country. And Thailand better bans all flights from high risk countries.

you are very wrong

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/japans-snow-town-turns-into-hotbed-of-coronavirus-cases

9 hours ago, notasmartassknowitallfarag said:

Lying in Thailand is a common daily occurrence so nothing new here.  

It comes to Thais as naturally as breathing.

This guy that lied obviously took the " the Law is for other folks- not me attitude "

Japan is hardly a high risk country for the virus. Out of a population of nearly 26 million, it has just 189 confirmed cases and three deaths. 

 

Hokkaido, with five million people, has 38 infections and one death. Hardly a "hotbed of corona cases", as the dire Straits Times would have its readers believe.

 

It is bad enough the mass meja spreading fake news, without a Thai minister muscling in on the act. With a bit of luck, the Japanese won't sue for defamation.

 

https://corona.help/country/japan

Edited February 27, 20206 yr by Krataiboy