Top British home office mandarin quits over minister's behaviour

[Rookiescot]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Posts 15, 26 & 27 

(OK I did paraphrase you, but thats what you implied )

Do not paraphrase me please.

Just answer the question. Are you completely ignorant of the fact the Johnson government has been threatening the BBC and the judiciary and are YOU happy about that?

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Do not paraphrase me please.

Just answer the question. Are you completely ignorant of the fact the Johnson government has been threatening the BBC and the judiciary and are YOU happy about that?

I have already answered that question , yes I am completely ignorant about that...............thats why I have now asked you THREE times to post some links 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Mr Mandarin , dont know his first name 

Well here he is but no name given. Let's just assume it's Philip. Pretty good likeness, anyway.

 

[Rookiescot]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/15/boris-johnson-threatens-bbc-with-two-pronged-attack

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/supreme-court-boris-johnson-prorogation-unlawful-parliament-a9118236.html

 

Took me 20 seconds. But of course you were already aware of this stuff.

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/15/boris-johnson-threatens-bbc-with-two-pronged-attack

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/supreme-court-boris-johnson-prorogation-unlawful-parliament-a9118236.html

 

Took me 20 seconds. But of course you were already aware of this stuff.

Requesting the news media to be unbiased is hardly Nazi like behavior

Complete opposite actually .

The BBC should report in an unbiased fashion

If the BBC persist with their biased reporting, they should lose their licence funding fee

The BBC should be politically neutral .

I agree with Boris

 

 

[samran]

42 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Don't be silly, he was at MO Transport for most of the time of recent Tory rule. Paranoia pah doo widdle to you too.

So his whole department moved over from transport as well?

[evadgib]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Requesting the news media to be unbiased is hardly Nazi like behavior

Complete opposite actually .

The BBC should report in an unbiased fashion

If the BBC persist with their biased reporting, they should lose their licence funding fee

The BBC should be politically neutral .

I agree with Boris

Me too.

 

This might cause some screens to need wiping...

Edited March 1, 2020 by evadgib

[sanemax]

14 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

 

Took me 20 seconds. But of course you were already aware of this stuff.

No I wasnt, as explained previously , I dont follow UK news to much .

Can you understand that, or will I have to tell you a few more times ? I sometimes go days/weeks without checking the UK news

[CharlieK]

9 hours ago, Bundooman said:

His too.

He's a 'Sir' He's been in the job 33 years. He knows 'everything about the Home Office and he thinks, obviously, that his knowledge is better than anyone else's.

Patel is the second woman that Putnam has worked for. It is the second time that he has clashed with a woman. I wonder why?

 

Maybe he thought HE should be in line for that top job and not them?

He comes across as a proper little 'girl's blouse' - doesn't like being told what to do by a woman.

I bet he did as he was told by Maggie Thatcher!

He is a prissy little pratt!

Well said. 

[nauseus]

10 minutes ago, samran said:

So his whole department moved over from transport as well?

I have no idea but the topic subject is Rutnam, not his circus. 

[stevenl]

14 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Requesting the news media to be unbiased is hardly Nazi like behavior

Complete opposite actually .

The BBC should report in an unbiased fashion

If the BBC persist with their biased reporting, they should lose their licence funding fee

The BBC should be politically neutral .

I agree with Boris

 

 

To achieve that BBC should move more to the left. Not going to happen, they have and will be favouring the Tories, just not enough to Boris' liking.

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

To achieve that BBC should move more to the left. Not going to happen, they have and will be favouring the Tories, just not enough to Boris' liking.

Any further to the Left and they would have to change their name to : 

British Broadcasting Communism 

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

To achieve that BBC should move more to the left. Not going to happen, they have and will be favouring the Tories, just not enough to Boris' liking.

If the BBC moves any more to the left, the TV would fall of the table and even Andrew Neil couldn't stop that.

[JAG]

9 hours ago, sanemax said:

How does that fit into this thread ?

It's become a general purpose and rather meaningless quote/

[Rookiescot]

36 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Requesting the news media to be unbiased is hardly Nazi like behavior

Complete opposite actually .

The BBC should report in an unbiased fashion

If the BBC persist with their biased reporting, they should lose their licence funding fee

The BBC should be politically neutral .

I agree with Boris

 

 

ROFL.

You think the BBC is left wing?

Nick Robinson.

Laura Kuenssberg

Andrew Neil.

Every audience and panel on question time since the program started.

And its still not enough for the right wing Johnson government. 

[Rookiescot]

42 minutes ago, sanemax said:

No I wasnt, as explained previously , I dont follow UK news to much .

Can you understand that, or will I have to tell you a few more times ? I sometimes go days/weeks without checking the UK news

So this sabbatical from UK news means you have lost the capacity to use google? 

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

ROFL.

You think the BBC is left wing?

Nick Robinson.

Laura Kuenssberg

Andrew Neil.

 

Does the BBC just have three journalists/presenters working for it ?

All three presenters that work for the BBC are right wingers and so the BBC is right wing biased ?

  Fair enough I suppose , the BBC should double its workforce and hire 3 left wing presenters to even it up a bit 

  Will the licence fee have to increase with the work force doubling ?

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So this sabbatical from UK news means you have lost the capacity to use google? 

Good idea, you keep writing incorrect things are I will search the internet to see whether theres any hint of truth about your statements .

  Great game .

You make a statement and I will begin my quest and search

Im ready to play, : MAKE A STATEMENT   

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, rhyddid said:

More he shake and more the economy is going to be a disgrace, also due the global recession for the latest events.

Incompetence, still remain the key word of this administration.

Incompetence yes, but it doesn't do justice to the scary inadequacy of the Tory front bench. If you reach the stage where you only promote fully signed up yes persons, you end up with a Trump type administration. 

Saying the cabinet is incompetent is like saying the universe is big. Not technically incorrect, but doesn't communicate a sense of scale. The Universe is unimaginably vast and expanding at the speed if light in every direction and dimension (So they say).

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Bundooman said:

His too.

He's a 'Sir' He's been in the job 33 years. He knows 'everything about the Home Office and he thinks, obviously, that his knowledge is better than anyone else's.

Patel is the second woman that Putnam has worked for. It is the second time that he has clashed with a woman. I wonder why?

 

Maybe he thought HE should be in line for that top job and not them?

He comes across as a proper little 'girl's blouse' - doesn't like being told what to do by a woman.

I bet he did as he was told by Maggie Thatcher!

He is a prissy little pratt!

Civil servants can't become ministers unless they get elected, far as I know, so just what are you talking about?

 

Perhaps both women that he worked for were bullies? I worked for many female bullies so that would not surprise me.

[Rookiescot]

7 hours ago, sanemax said:

Good idea, you keep writing incorrect things are I will search the internet to see whether theres any hint of truth about your statements .

  Great game .

You make a statement and I will begin my quest and search

Im ready to play, : MAKE A STATEMENT   

There are some things which are held as self evident.

I can not be expected to babysit you in every post.

[sanemax]

14 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

There are some things which are held as self evident.

I can not be expected to babysit you in every post.

Although the Conservatives being extreme right-wing with Nazi esque policies is not one of them , thats just your misguided opinion with no relation to reality 

[JonnyF]

Good riddance. Any other civil servants who think they can undermine the government and the overwhelming mandate provided to them by the electorate can do one as well.

 

I said months ago that once the swamp was drained in Parliament they need to do the same in Whitehall. Thankfully one was completed in December and the other is obviously underway.

[Baerboxer]

On 3/1/2020 at 9:42 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

He didn’t just quit, he’s announced he’s going to file for constructive dismissal.

 

Patel’s behaviour will be opened in court.

 

And so will his.

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, sanemax said:

Although the Conservatives being extreme right-wing with Nazi esque policies is not one of them , thats just your misguided opinion with no relation to reality 

 

Complete nonsense.

 

Zero relation to reality and clearly you have no idea of National Socialism, it's polices or appreciate that it's an extreme left wing doctrine.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

And so will his.

Yes, but since he is the one that made the decision to take it to court, advantage seems to be, at least in this regard, on his side.

[Baerboxer]

10 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Incompetence yes, but it doesn't do justice to the scary inadequacy of the Tory front bench. If you reach the stage where you only promote fully signed up yes persons, you end up with a Trump type administration. 

Saying the cabinet is incompetent is like saying the universe is big. Not technically incorrect, but doesn't communicate a sense of scale. The Universe is unimaginably vast and expanding at the speed if light in every direction and dimension (So they say).

 

Indeed. Getting the same way in Scotland. Leader Nicola likes appointing women to key roles. Now they're giving free sanitary products to all females. Nice to see they've got their priorities right.

 

You really couldn't make today's British politics up ............. or American, Canadian, French, German, Australian ...................... oh heck!

 

[Baerboxer]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Yes, but since he is the one that made the decision to take it to court, advantage seems to be, at least in this regard, on his side.

 

We have to wait and see.

 

Not a Patel fan, but waiting to see the evidence reported. Not a fan of Civil service bureaucratic stagnation either.

[melvinmelvin]

On 3/1/2020 at 2:28 PM, cleopatra2 said:

The legislation  lists the 4 main principles of the civil service code.

 

Look here

https://www.civilservant.org.uk/ethics-no_minister.html

 

right,

very well known material for me, mostly OK,

but some of it is terrible - clearly aimed at undermining a democratic process

(and some of it badly described, esp. when it comes to doing smth illegal)