National Disease Control Chief refuses to clarify Phuket coronavirus report

[WhyamIhere]

11 people have already died in America (a first world country) while Thailand reports only one!  'And the check is in the mail'.

[wensiensheng]

9 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I am one of. Worry? Better to make contingency plans than to simply worry. Wake up to the fact that Corvid-19 is not a singular community infection of equal risk to those with pre-existing health issues old or young. Only more specific to those.

Influenza  variants,  viral pneumonia, bacterial pneumonia all circulate within communities.

The same precautions should be applied as  risk is equal. Do/have  people taken as a matter of precaution?

The  reality is  that in the  event of suffering a respiratory illness that causes distress then the sufferer  should seek intervention especially if  compromised  with underlying  health  conditions. Despite previously having any  precautionary vaccinations for various things it is no guarantee, although assistive.

Keep it in perspective.

In terms of  Health systems  there is more concern as to the  impact  of "yet another" infectious disease to cope with rather than any really significant mortality rate overall.

A further reality is that due to the induced awareness that although it will/is exacerbating demand on health resources that in spite of Corvid-19 the mortality  rate from influenza etc will be reduced as a  consequence due to patient presentation for intervention.

 

 

So if I get sick, go to the doctor.

 

thanks for that earth shattering revelation.

[bstafford214]

10 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

A demonstration of why there is contempt for Thai government representatives and why there is disdain for Thailand's health officials tasked with managing this health crisis.

The Deputy Director General  bungled this media event  badly. The intent of a press conference is to provide clear and reliable information, not to obfuscate and erode public confidence.

This is something Trump does all the time in the US. He lies or gives no details. Both governments are lying or not giving the true facts.

[4MyEgo]

11 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

Ah; The Land of Denial !

Or is the that the Land of Cover up ?

[sahibji]

if the national department of disease control does not become apparent it provides a fertile ground for speculation an rumours. it does not help the cause in any way, but only negatively.

[sahibji]

5 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Or is the that the Land of Cover up ?

by not speaking out the truth he is not covering up but opening up the field to speculation.

[sahibji]

12 minutes ago, bstafford214 said:

This is something Trump does all the time in the US. He lies or gives no details. Both governments are lying or not giving the true facts.

why go to the US when own backyard is dirty. 

[4MyEgo]

19 minutes ago, WhyamIhere said:

11 people have already died in America (a first world country) while Thailand reports only one!  'And the check is in the mail'.

Did you also know that 29 million contracted influenza, 280,000 were hospitalised, and 16,000 have died, this whole Coronavirus has been blown out of proportion in my opinion, that said, if one things comes of this strain through all the negative media reporting, the world might be a more hygenic place to live as people wash their hands and learn to wear masks if sick, hopefully.

 

Once a vaccine if made, which won't be long, Bob's your uncle as the saying goes, she'll be right, another, cough cough.

[sahibji]

5 hours ago, ukrules said:

Always assume the worst with this lot in charge.

the suspense could kill if not the virus. what is swept under the carpet?

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He would not elaborate on which parts of the report were considered accurate.

They just can't tell it how it is... give us the truth we can handle it we're not children.

Tell us the real numbers & where they are so we "the public" can take appropriate measures.
This blanket of mystery and extremely low numbers are causing the panic NOT THE VIRUS!!!!!

[sahibji]

10 hours ago, Ventenio said:

COVID-19 was sooooo last year

They should ask to see COVID-20

 

 

by the way there are reports that there are two versions of this virus.

[sahibji]

1 hour ago, herwin1234 said:

He refuses to clarify. Well, until things are clear, maybe thats the best option. 

leaving people to speculate? hardly a good option.

[spiekerjozef]

We already know the answer:

no corona cases in phuket.

[outsider]

This is another incidence that underlines why Thai officialdom is nothing but a joke. Especially the current lot. However, I am in awe, how you buffoons can pull a dignified face and act all official and authoritative when the fact is, you have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on and what you are doing.

[Rod the Sod]

Do these people actually get paid then? you know, a salary for producing exceptional consistent and added value work?

[Incobart]

I find the whole corona blow up ridicules, and laugh with the masks, but on 19 febr I went to Ao Nang krabi  and after to Phi Phi, all normal,  but 10 days later I start coffin,  chest feelings and become slight influenza feeling, weakness, sweating...  first i think just a cold, but then with the influenza feeling... I wonder why when I came back 2 time a whole team stopped everyone to check temp and disinfect hands ... if nothing going on ....   I don't know if I cached it I getting better now, I stayed home rest, drink a lot of ginger/honey/lemon thee and zinc tablets ... my friends seems to have no problem, so just wondering.

[Zesper3000]

Does it even matter anymore? Thailand is an at-risk country. I wouldn't be surprised if they had it at this point. However, if he does have it, give the people who are taking care of him, the chance to take the necessary precautions out there in Phuket...it's better to be safe than sorry.  

[SaamBaht]

The question is: why are 'most' governments not being honest and the outbreak in their countries?

[Nigel Garvie]

39 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Did you also know that 29 million contracted influenza, 280,000 were hospitalised, and 16,000 have died, this whole Coronavirus has been blown out of proportion in my opinion, that said, if one things comes of this strain through all the negative media reporting, the world might be a more hygenic place to live as people wash their hands and learn to wear masks if sick, hopefully.

 

Once a vaccine if made, which won't be long, Bob's your uncle as the saying goes, she'll be right, another, cough cough.

The problem is that this virus is many times more deadly than most flu, could be 40 times according to a BBC report. Furthermore it is very easily spread. Your figures on flu need a perspective, this is probably over a winter season, covid 19 has just got going.  A vaccine will take a year at least to develop, test, and manufacture in vast amounts.

 

The key thing as mentioned before is that there is no way Thailand with it's strong China links has less cases than the UK for example. 

[johnhw]

While I am extremely distrusting of ANY politician, ANYWHERE, I am even more distrusting of my fellow human beings; e.g. Face masks everywhere despite well-publicized fact that they serve no anti-viral protection. e.g. TV comment strings that theorize, diagnose, interpret, invent and pontificate and announce brain farts that overwhelmingly feed public misconceptions and panic.

[4MyEgo]

1 minute ago, Nigel Garvie said:

The problem is that this virus is many times more deadly than most flu, could be 40 times according to a BBC report. Furthermore it is very easily spread. Your figures on flu need a perspective, this is probably over a winter season, covid 19 has just got going.  A vaccine will take a year at least to develop, test, and manufacture in vast amounts.

 

The key thing as mentioned before is that there is no way Thailand with it's strong China links has less cases than the UK for example. 

I am not suggesting that Thailand has less numbers than the UK or any of its neighbouring countries, that said, it does spreads much quicker in colder environs, and hits those who are older or have pre-existing conditions.

 

The numbers reported worldwide could be lower because people who have had the Covid-19 and died, might have died from other causes, e.g. heart attack, kidney disease and so on, which means they have to report the cause, not that the patient had Covid-19, but died later from heart failure, kidney failure, so instead of putting the underlying cause as the main cause the numbers will differ and that is probably why the numbers of those dying in China seems obscured earlier on, but it is just the way they report it worldwide, right or wrong.

 

At the end of the day, it's just another strain, more powerful as you say and more will die, until a vaccine is made, by this time next year at the latest, all of the above said, no one is yelling out that so far the recovery rate is 54%, they only focus on the mortality rate being between 2%-4%, as they say, if you want to create a panic, you can rest assured the media will do that for you.

 

Could this be a way of reducing the population, was it released into the population, we can all go on speculating about this or that, but it doesn't do anyone any good, me for one, is carrying on as usual, abiet will stay away from crowds, wash my hands more thoroughly when out and about and look into perhaps getting a shot for Pneumonia which might help in the case of me contracting this virus until they get the vaccine to market.

 

I for one have a pre-existing condition and know I will have a battle on my hands to beat it if I come down with it, e.g. as we have been told it hits the lungs, so those who have a pre-existing condition like myself, who has a stent in one of my main arteries knows that my heart and perhaps other organs will have to work harder to beat it, or die of possibly a heart attack as the virus releases the plaque in the arteries which could cause a blockage and trigger a heart attack, and so I suppose that makes me more susceptible than someone who doesn't have heart disease and the reporting if one died would be of a heart attack. 

 

The above said, keep smiling and try to stay safe as per usual. 

[raccos21]

We are living in different era now—the news will go faster than ever. It’s better to tell the truth because lying doesn’t serves any purpose. It’s just gonna create chaos. 

[Max69xl]

12 hours ago, mercman24 said:

still lying to the public so no change there then,  as someone noted before confirmed cases at 43 for days now, anyone with a brain cell does not believe a word they say now,  a simple yes or no would have sufficed, even if it was a lie lol,

About lying to the public, it's real easy because still a very few thai read newspapers, and they learn nothing from soaps on TV. 

[gargamon]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

Oh and the "fake news" squad in Thailand is not what most reasonable people would understand it to be - say something whether right or wrong and you will be arrested if it doesn't fit with the program - that is a whole big step into police state not democracy and free speech, shut your mouth or you will be arrested and locked away

Gee, replace "arrested" and "locked away" with "fired" or "demoted" and I would say you're talking about a totally different country...

[Andycoops]

More gross incompetence. 

[DannyCarlton]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Did you also know that 29 million contracted influenza, 280,000 were hospitalised, and 16,000 have died, this whole Coronavirus has been blown out of proportion in my opinion, that said, if one things comes of this strain through all the negative media reporting, the world might be a more hygenic place to live as people wash their hands and learn to wear masks if sick, hopefully.

 

Once a vaccine if made, which won't be long, Bob's your uncle as the saying goes, she'll be right, another, cough cough.

Your opinion not the opinion of most governments around the world. The press are just reporting announcements by the WHO and various governments.

 

Generally accepted that a vaccine won't be available to the genral public for 18 months.

[4MyEgo]

4 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Your opinion not the opinion of most governments around the world. The press are just reporting announcements by the WHO and various governments.

 

Generally accepted that a vaccine won't be available to the genral public for 18 months.

It is also the opinion of people more qualified than those in government positions who work with this day in day out, if you have access to NetFlix, check out the "documentary" not movie called Pandemic if you haven't seen it, these people in this clip are the "qualified people" from that documentary, recently releasing this clip.

 

 

 

[Darkside Gray]

11 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

The more they deny or refuse to comment, the more it makes me think there is a lot more they are not telling us.

 

Does anyone know exactly how many cases Thailand really has?

Well I don't think the government does so the answer is probably no!

[robertson468]

Do these people not realise that they are Public Servants. The emphasis being to serve the people, not for the people to kow tow to them!

[Enoon]

 

No need to ask any government official what the situation is, the government has published the numbers. 

 

Don't be misled by the address, on the page the PDF is titled: "The Corona Disease 2019 Situation". 

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no58-010363.pdf

 

It shows the numbers "undergoing treatment for their disease."

It shows the numbers "recovered from their illnesses and discharged."

 

Don't bother waiting for for one of them to spell out loud the "truth" for you.

 

They only do that when the truth "pleases".

 

 

Edited March 5, 2020 by Enoon