Popular Post Chrysaora Posted March 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2020 This thread hangs on a professor at Hong Kong University whose specialty is PATHOLOGY. I searched him at the University. He does not have a specialty of VIROLOGY so why would I listen to a pathologist over a virologist? Why would I give his guess preference over specialists in Virology or epidemiologists? I call nonsense on most of the things you quoted. https://www.zerohedge.com/health/coronavirus-can-stay-air-30-minutes-travel-twice-safe-distance-according-study The length of time it lasts on the surface depends on factors such as temperature and the type of surface, for example at around 37C (98F), it can survive for two to three days on glass, fabric, metal, plastic or paper. These findings, from a group of official researchers from Hunan province investigating a cluster case, challenge the advice from health authorities around the world that people should remain apart at a “safe distance” of one to two metres (three to six and a half feet). -SCMP "It can be confirmed that in a closed environment with air-conditioning, the transmission distance of the new coronavirus will exceed the commonly recognised safe distance," the researchers wrote in their paper, published in peer-reviewed journal, Practical Preventive Medicine. "Our advice is to wear a face mask all the way [through the bus ride]," the researchers recommended. I'll take that information over this pollyanna feel good information. Pathology is the study of the causes and effects of disease or injury. The word pathology also refers to the study of disease in general, incorporating a wide range of bioscience research fields and medical practices. However, when used in the context of modern medical treatment, the term is often used in a more narrow fashion to refer to processes and tests which fall within the contemporary medical field of "general pathology", an area which includes a number of distinct but inter-related medical specialties that diagnose disease, mostly through analysis of tissue, cell, and body fluid samples. Idiomatically, "a pathology" may also refer to the predicted or actual progression of particular diseases (as in the statement "the many different forms of cancer have diverse pathologies"), and the affix path is sometimes used to indicate a state of disease in cases of both physical ailment (as in cardiomyopathy) and psychological conditions (such as psychopathy).[1] A physician practicing pathology is called a pathologist. Virology is the study of viral – submicroscopic, parasitic particles of genetic material contained in a protein coat[1][2] – and virus-like agents. It focuses on the following aspects of viruses: their structure, classification and evolution, their ways to infect and exploit host cells for reproduction, their interaction with host organism physiology and immunity, the diseases they cause, the techniques to isolate and culture them, and their use in research and therapy. Virology is considered to be a subfield of microbiology or of medicine. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 8 hours ago, from the home of CC said: so global warming is what will save all of us lol, that'll make ol' greta twitch.. And BKK become a water park.....double price for you as well.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Sunlight (UVs) and high temperatures do kill viruses, BUT it has not been determined whether humidity has any affect on covid-19. I'm sure most of you aren't aware, but Wuhan, China has an average humidity of 80% 12-months a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Sunlight.. YES! High temps... YES. High humidity... NO!! Humidity protects it's outer shell. Get the facts straight. Some doctors are so stupid these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlandtday Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 2:59 AM, Don Chance said: No doubt there is some in Thailand but it is nothing like Italy or Korea. It is not multiplying exponentially like other countries. It would have happened by now. Also look at all the open food markets! You are nuts if you eat anything from trays sitting out in the open. But despite this it doesn't seem so bad, you can't hide it if there are 1000's of cases. you can't hide thousands of cases? you sure as hell can if you don't test for it and simply rename it the flu, dengue fever, whaterever... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 the virus doesn't like tests to see if someone has the virus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Chance Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, tlandtday said: you can't hide thousands of cases? you sure as hell can if you don't test for it and simply rename it the flu, dengue fever, whaterever... Have you seen what is happening in Italy? Hospitals are overwhelmed. You can't hide that. It becomes a major problem when too many people come in, you need lots beds for weeks to treat some with this virus. There is major shortage of beds. This will happen in western countries too very soon. US is really bad because of private health care. Is that happening in Thailand? No i don't think so. Like is said you can not hide that. When it gets that big the government can not just hide the problem it becomes too impractical. You can see the map Notice all the hot tropical countries have few cases. Edited March 11, 2020 by Don Chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhuh Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 3:22 AM, HuskerDo said: Sunlight.. YES! High temps... YES. High humidity... NO!! Humidity protects it's outer shell. Get the facts straight. Some doctors are so stupid these days. The virus is actually very dependent on humidity. It does not survive in dry conditions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5633572526 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 1:05 AM, Susco said: You think Chinese tourists stay in those malls 24 hours a day? I heard they have closing times , and then even the last customer has get out and back in the heat an humidity of Bangkok. Viruses love moisture aka humidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 7:10 AM, sirineou said: I am there now. In Daytona beach is Bike Week, there are bikers from all over the country, right now Daytona is a zoo, we stay away from there. Do you think there will be a spike in cases reported in the next couple of weeks? I posted this two days ago, Today they reported the first case in St Augustine (15 min from us by car) attributed to a biker from New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Chance Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESnA7XRXkAIThJQ?format=png&name=small This very interesting finding hints at the potential seasonality of Coronavirus: community-to-community outbreak has so far been limited to “a narrow east-west distribution roughly along the 30-50 N” corridor at consistently similar weather patterns (5-11°C and 47-79% humidity). https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESm9RTRXQAACFGP?format=png&name=900x900 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varun Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 12:59 AM, Traubert said: Three things the virus has new found affection for 1. Italians 2. Koreans 3. Americans. In short, anyone who won't go home when they're told and stay there. There'll be another surge after the weekend after they all go to church. Let's not forget the Japanese. This virus must have taken some pointers from the slappers at Thaniya Plaza / NEP / Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Went across the border into Lao at Chong Mek today. LOS immigration OK, went through into Lao, put on a face mask and latex gloves, weeeell, the place is always full of Chinese and is not really known for its cleanliness...Was met by a guy with a temperature gun, now that was a surprise, nothing at LOS side. Filled in the Lao visa form and handed over $40, my visa is $35, bloke says "no av $5, go the bank and change a 20", ????....How odd when I can see piles of $.... I said.." No, you keep it, buy a beer".... If this virus scare wasn't around I probably would have changed it, but I just wanted to get out of there. Actually the place was pretty quiet, except...Yes.....A Chinese tour guide with a stack of PP's. Anyhoooo, go back to LOS immigration, gave the guy my PP, he said face mask down, photo match, hmmm, something wrong, called a bloke over, they said face mask OFF, they fluffed around for ages....Fingers on pad, want to check my finger prints, so, latex gloves off, I looked at the pad, looked at them, raised my eyebrows, put my hand on the pad...After more fluffing around I was let in.... Soooooo, LOS side NO temp check, my mask and latex gloves were a complete waste of time, nowhere to wash my hands and no hand cleaner after using the pad loads of folk have probably had poohy fingers on.....Not impressed..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) On 3/12/2020 at 9:37 AM, 5633572526 said: Viruses love moisture aka humidity Thats good! dry & low humidity ~30% here in the North east! Edited March 13, 2020 by CGW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID-19 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3551767 March 9, 2020 "This paper investigates how air temperature and humidity influence the transmission of COVID-19. After estimating the serial interval of COVID-19 from 105 pairs of the virus carrier and the infected, we calculate the daily effective reproductive number, R, for each of all 100 Chinese cities with more than 40 cases. Using the daily R values from January 21 to 23, 2020 as proxies of non-intervened transmission intensity, we find, under a linear regression framework for 100 Chinese cities, high temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce the transmission of COVID-19..." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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