Popular Post drbeach Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Cake Monster said: There really is no room for this Clown, or anybody else like him on any Social Media Platform. For a Government Minister (representing any Country ) to take to a Social Media Platform with such derogatory, and Racist comments is an absolute disgrace. And this is not the first time he has let his Racist Views be known in Public. I agree. OK there is a small possibility he was being impersonated, but given his recent rant it's looking more likely it's genuine. I am not going to speculate any further at this point, other than to say his behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming and absolutely unacceptable for a government minister of any country. These remarks are very damaging and the repercussions in terms of hurting Thailand's already battered image, tourism and investment, not to mention the small, though very real possibility of violence directed against foreigners especially farang in the wake of this, could come to haunt the minister and the government for a long time to come. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokbonecollector Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, petedk said: I agree with you to a certain extent, but I also think a lot of the poorer people (maybe those that have moved to Bangkok ) in Bangkok are also very racist. I have had a few incidents the last year or so where some Thais have shown racist attitude towards me as soon as they saw me. It wasn't like this when I came here 20+ years ago, but I can definitely see the changes. They are only like this in Thailand; confront them in another country out of their control and you will soon seen who they really are..cowards! PS. I am talking about the arrogant hi-so and wannabe hi-so types; not about Thai's in general who I find to be awesome. Edited March 13, 2020 by bangkokbonecollector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said: Sorry to say, but the moron is not completely wrong. Yesterday at Jomtien Immigration I saw not so few farang beeing dressed like vagrants and looking like they'd need a shower badly. and does that make them more likely to carry a virus then? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, tomacht8 said: Simple. The super rich are the ruling class. The bank account and the show off relationship factor determine the height and status in the hierarchy pyramid. These super rich are only surrounded by humpbacks and subordinates crawling on the ground. There is never a contradiction or criticism. These super rich prefer to live in their shielded world where they are the kings. And now it happens that such a Hi So leaves his self-made enclosure and becomes a minister. And then there is global criticism when you show off your inability. Many Thais cannot deal with criticism publicly expressed, even if the criticism is constructive. The loss of face is experienced and then there is violence, whether verbally or physically. Unfortunately the spineless and completely useless foreign Embassies should stand up and call this racist imbecile out and put pressure on the little guy to step in and do something constructive for a change instead of the pathetic naughty boy smirk that is usually forthcoming. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Yinn said: Good afternoon Mattzon. i not support Anutin, now, or before, or future. But i the elected of tvf. I ask the member to not be like Anutin. I disagree with Anutin, and disagree with TVF member who like to argue about silly point and be racist same as Anutin. I know you will agree with your elected leader Yinn. Thankyou your understanding. Thankyou your vote. Delusions of grandeur setting in perchance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: Many people in farang countries know him. His remarks about farangs have been widely reported outside Thailand. You really don't understand how bad he is making Thailand look to the outside world. She might be one of those who thinks Facebook is thai and works only in Thailand ???????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sir-Woody Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 The credentials of the gentleman leading the UK COVID 19 team Sir Patrick John Thompson Vallance FRS FMedSci FRCP (born 1960) is a British medical doctor. Since March 2018 he has been the Chief Scientific Adviser to the Government of the United Kingdom. From 2012 to 2018 he served as president of research and development (R&D) at the multinational pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline Can anyone quantify the credentials of Anutin Charnviraku the gentleman leading the Thai COVID 19 fight Sir Thompson Vallance has stated that face masks offer no protection against this virus, Mr Anutin Charnviraka disputes this advise. I would just like to know whom I should take notice of. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said: Was Thailand not 'occupied' by the Japanese in the second world war? Strange one. The Japanese certainly used it as the main highway to Malaysia and Singapore. Then there was the death railway? A bit before my time for me to be certain. But, but, but, none of that counts as they were really great guys, fortunately not all Thai's agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakmuay887 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said: And submarines. And the super all knowing BMW farang hunting car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Airalee said: https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php Clearly we from the west are all doomed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Matzzon said: I don´t think you see the picture clear. There is a big difference here. On this forum we have private persons making insignificant comments. Something that ain´t official and bears the load of presenting a country behind each ones back. This person is an "elected", at least they say that, spokesperson for the country. That´s what most posters here are commenting about. I couldn´t care less if private insignificant Thai persons had a forum and posted comments of the same standard, but when an elected official and minister do it??? Yeah, if you sit down and think for a while, I believe that even you will understand the severity of the comment and the situation it puts the government in.. Still drinking? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, BestB said: She might be one of those who thinks Facebook is thai and works only in Thailand ???????? Not just facebook, both his previous and current outbursts have hit the national press in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Matzzon said: I don´t think you see the picture clear. There is a big difference here. On this forum we have private persons making insignificant comments. Something that ain´t official and bears the load of presenting a country behind each ones back. This person is an "elected", at least they say that, spokesperson for the country. That´s what most posters here are commenting about. I couldn´t care less if private insignificant Thai persons had a forum and posted comments of the same standard, but when an elected official and minister do it??? Yeah, if you sit down and think for a while, I believe that even you will understand the severity of the comment and the situation it puts the government in.. All well and good, with the exception that the government don't give a rat's a_se. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 should be a good boost for tourists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: Friday 13th bears an ill wind for this "gruberment". I do hope so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 If there is any 'Filth' in this country worthy of special mention it is this creep, who stands shoulder high when it comes to xenophobic tendency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post drbeach Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Yinn said: He not important for Yinn. He important for you? i think nobody overseas know him, care him. For what? Good thing you don't care about him Yinn, but he is the deputy PM and the health minister. He represents the government of Thailand and makes the country look like a laughing stock, not to mention a hostile place for foreigners to live, do business or invest in. His previous remarks were widely reported on internationally and people overseas know him now. I should also note how the media in neighboring countries like Laos noted with glee how he conducted himself, as if to say "at least our government ministers don't talk like this" although what they're leaving out is government in Laos conducts itself in secretive ways and no dissent is allowed at all. So if Laos ever had an "Anutin" (a nut in Laos) you wouldn't be allowed to criticize him. At least in Thailand, there is enough freedom of speech remaining that we can. Of course, in secretive countries like Laos they know not to upset their business partners and donor nations, so such remarks are made sure never to reach the public discourse, even if overheard by the media or someone who could "leak them out". Nevertheless, it allowed them to score some "brownie points". Let's hope more competent leaders come along to replace this nut job. It's about time. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airalee Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, Yinn said: I think about that when i win POTY. Like attracts like 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakmuay887 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, Yinn said: Good afternoon Mattzon. i not support Anutin, now, or before, or future. But i the elected of tvf. I ask the member to not be like Anutin. I disagree with Anutin, and disagree with TVF member who like to argue about silly point and be racist same as Anutin. I know you will agree with your elected leader Yinn. Thankyou your understanding. Thankyou your vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post drbeach Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Artisi said: All well and good, with the exception that the government don't give a rat's a_se. Well you don't know how governments work then do you? This is huge...because it will affect their bottom line. When foreigners flee (a mainstay of the economy in the form of tourism) and hesitant business people decide, "maybe Thailand is not the best place to start our business" the government will come crawling back to us, apologizing and wanting our business. It's always about the bottom line. Keep in mind that much of the Thai economy aside from agriculture perhaps (although even there to some extent) was built up by foreigners and most investment in manufacturing, food processing and tourism has been made by foreign companies. Thailand is not an innovative country and has few home grown brands of it's own. It's single car brand "Thairung" has been a huge flop, they only sell like 10 vehicles a year and not sure if they're still making any. Malaysia has 2 brands (Perodua and Proton) and have been far more successful yet the country has less than half the population of Thailand. I should note of course that Thairung has been developed in partnership with Isuzu. Therefore, they're not really an organic brand with their own unique design or engineering, but more of a re-badged version of Isuzu. All the other car manufacturers are wholly (or mostly) foreign owned and will say goodbye to Thailand, like GM recently did, if they don't like the conditions here. Of course, it will probably take a lot more than a bad mouthed minister to make or break a decision, but it certainly doesn't help. Edited March 13, 2020 by drbeach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, drbeach said: Well you don't know how governments work then do you? This is huge...because it will affect their bottom line. When foreigners flee (a mainstay of the economy in the form of tourism) and hesitant business people decide, "maybe Thailand is not the best place to start our business" the government will come crawling back to us, apologizing and wanting our business. It's always about the bottom line. Keep in mind that much of the Thai economy aside from agriculture perhaps (although even there to some extent) was built up by foreigners and most investment in manufacturing, food processing and tourism has been made by foreign companies. Thailand is not an innovative country and has few home grown brands of it's own. It's single car brand "Thairung" has been a huge flop, they only sell like 10 vehicles a year and not sure if they're still making any. Malaysia has 2 brands (Perodua and Proton) and have been far more successful yet the country has less than half the population of Thailand. All the other car manufacturers are wholly (or mostly) foreign owned and will say goodbye to Thailand, like GM recently did, if they don't like the conditions here. Of course, it will probably take a lot more than a bad mouthed minister to make or break a decision, but it certainly doesn't help. I know how governments work, but this is Thailand, and you know or should know by now, Thailand is different, just ask them.... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 can we have a posting pause for 30mins on these Anutun threads so I can go have a shower - just can't keep up otherwise lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Chazar said: i really wouldnt bank on that No, neither do I have any illusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airalee Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, rvaviator said: Those countries obviously took the long bus to school. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, drbeach said: Good thing you don't care about him Yinn, but he is the deputy PM and the health minister. He represents the government of Thailand and makes the country look like a laughing stock, not to mention a hostile place for foreigners to live, do business or invest in. His previous remarks were widely reported on internationally and people overseas know him now. I should also note how the media in neighboring countries like Laos noted with glee how he conducted himself, as if to say "at least our government ministers don't talk like this" although what they're leaving out is government in Laos conducts itself in secretive ways and no dissent is allowed at all. So if Laos ever had an "Anutin" (a nut in Laos) you wouldn't be allowed to criticize him. At least in Thailand, there is enough freedom of speech remaining that we can. Of course, in secretive countries like Laos they know not to upset their business partners and donor nations, so such remarks are made sure never to reach the public discourse, even if overheard by the media or someone who could "leak them out". Nevertheless, it allowed them to score some "brownie points". Let's hope more competent leaders come along to replace this nut job. It's about time. Seems there were a few likely competent candidates around - - were, but that was very smartly sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, smedly said: can we have a posting pause for 30mins on these Anutun threads so I can go have a shower - just can't keep up otherwise lol Just go dirty like everyone else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 57 minutes ago, Yinn said: Good afternoon Mattzon. i not support Anutin, now, or before, or future. But i the elected of tvf. I ask the member to not be like Anutin. I disagree with Anutin, and disagree with TVF member who like to argue about silly point and be racist same as Anutin. I know you will agree with your elected leader Yinn. Thankyou your understanding. Thankyou your vote. I am very pleased to hear that you are no a member of the diluted followers. Although, my comment stands firm. What you are doing is to try to compare an elected official in a government, who are a representative of a whole country and it´s population, with private posters on TVF. A person that understand the greatness of difference between those persons, also understand that there is no way on earth to compare the same. The rest of your comment was funny, so you got a laugh this time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Kadilo said: She can, she’s POTY you know ???? Ooh, yeah I know. Last time I checked anyway, a poster in a magazine was even lower than the proof reader. So, then we come down to the point. What does POTY mean? Probably nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, petedk said: I agree with you to a certain extent, but I also think a lot of the poorer people (maybe those that have moved to Bangkok ) in Bangkok are also very racist. I have had a few incidents the last year or so where some Thais have shown racist attitude towards me as soon as they saw me. It wasn't like this when I came here 20+ years ago, but I can definitely see the changes. I have to disagree...even around 16 years ago I think it was, I was applying for a nursery teaching job (to be honest, I didn't want to teach 3 year olds but that's what the agency offered me) and this racist principal made some derogatory remarks about me including being angry that I was a male (she was expecting a woman), yet it wasn't me that chose this gig. Although my Thai at the time was still rather basic (though most Thais I knew at the time said it was pretty good), I understood her rant and left. As for thinking poorer people are less racist than the upper classes or being surprised they could be racist, I disagree. The upper classes have mostly studied and/or lived abroad and are often dividing their time between Thailand and another country, usually in the west (or sometimes Japan or somewhere like that). They tend to count well to do foreigners, including members of the business and diplomatic community as their friends and many are in relationships with foreigners. They are well educated and while they may look down on their poorer, darker skinned compatriots as baffoons, they respect and look up to foreigners. Remember though that every society is "classist" to some extent - while I don't judge people, I certainly don't go out drinking beer with day laborers and truck drivers either, but you will find me at business networking events mingling with the upper classes. And it's obvious why...even though I speak fluent Thai, what would I talk to these poorer people about? How Somchai from down the street hit his wife again, or that Thaksin should be worshipped as a demi-God? The lower classes tend to have very low levels of education, believe in all sorts of myths and unfounded conspiracy theories and are the exact type of people who would take Anutin's comments at face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 It just keeps getting funnier. Yeah, yeah well we are racist towards the Thais here yeah, a bit, well, quite a lot really on a daily basis and we do talk about thick Somchai and the stupid people and all that yeah, but....but....yeah but we're ANONYMOUS, yeah, no-one knows who we are so that's not really racist see? Yeah, well, yeah ok it is a bit yeah and it makes people think we all think alike 'cos we say it so often but see there's only one of him and everybody knows him see, so that's much worse, even if what he said is true and what we say isn't, yeah, that's fair..... Keep it up lads, I'll get a TV series out of this one. ???????????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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