Trump: Asian-Americans not responsible for virus, need protection

[Mick501]

Does anybody frown at Spaniards after the Spanish flu?   Simply a name attributed to where the outbreak was first detected.   Calling it a Chinese virus in this case may well be useful in that it stigmatises the eating of exotic animals, and with any luck may have an impact on the pscyche of some that partake.

[MJKT2014]

The Trump now get some proof reading done upfront. From 23-Mar.

 

Edited March 25, 2020 by MJKT2014

[tifino]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

20 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China.

Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China!

What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? 

Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! 

 

Since when has it been a regular practice to label viruses by where they originate? Why this particular one now?

 ever since the end of WW1;

and Spain never bleated like a headless chook,

about the label!

They wore it as a token resulting from their duly exercised responsibility to warn the world!

 

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, Mick501 said:

Does anybody frown at Spaniards after the Spanish flu?   Simply a name attributed to where the outbreak was first detected.   Calling it a Chinese virus in this case may well be useful in that it stigmatises the eating of exotic animals, and with any luck may have an impact on the pscyche of some that partake.

In western nations like the USA where the population is relatively unsophisticated about Asians, "China" signifies not just a nation but a race. Whereas "Spanish" doesn't convey racial implications.

Spit On, Yelled At, Attacked: Chinese-Americans Fear for Their Safety

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/chinese-coronavirus-racist-attacks.html

[Logosone]

1 hour ago, Mick501 said:

Does anybody frown at Spaniards after the Spanish flu?   Simply a name attributed to where the outbreak was first detected.   Calling it a Chinese virus in this case may well be useful in that it stigmatises the eating of exotic animals, and with any luck may have an impact on the pscyche of some that partake.

The outbreak which started the Spanish flu was not first detected in Spain. 

 

It was first detected in Kansas City, USA, where the "Spanish" flu most likely originated, however, the Allies, American, British and French, wanted to keep the flu pandemic quiet so they wouldn't have to put measures in place to protect people which could have disrupted the war effort. Thus the flu was censored in the country where it most likely broke out, the USA. It was not censored in Spain where it was openly discussed, hence most people first became aware of it in Spain. Because the Allies kept the flu pandemic secret.

 

So, what Americans are now accusing China of, keeping the pandemic secret, is exactly what the Americans, British and French had done in the past.

[bristolboy]

Trump Abruptly Stops Calling Coronavirus ‘Chinese Virus’ At Daily Press Briefing

 

After days of calling coronavirus the “Chinese virus” despite advice from his own public health aides and the World Health Organization, President Donald Trump abruptly stopped using the term for the first time during a White House press conference on Monday.

• For days, Trump has referred to the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus” even though public health experts and the WHO have said naming viruses after geographic locations or groups of people is inaccurate, inappropriate and could unnecessarily stigmatize Asian-Americans and people from China.
• In the face of such criticism, Trump doubled down on using the label and insisted it isn’t racist because “it comes from China.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/23/trump-abruptly-stops-calling-coronavirus-chinese-virus-at-daily-press-briefing/#3d1cd02847ad

[Sydebolle]

10 hours ago, tifino said:

 ever since the end of WW1;

and Spain never bleated like a headless chook,

about the label!

They wore it as a token resulting from their duly exercised responsibility to warn the world!

 

Spanish flue - 100 years ago without internet

[Sydebolle]

14 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Since when has it been a regular practice to label viruses by where they originate? Why this particular one now?

Because it is time to tell those Red Brethren that, as members of the world community in the 21st century, they have a certain responsibility. 

The outbreak, provided it was an evolutionary natural one, is nobody's fault. But sitting on the information and wiping it under the big red rug killed most valuable lead time for planet Earth. 

Call it the Chinese virus, it will embarrass those rice pickers and human rights benders; and maybe they think differently if there is a next time! 

[Sydebolle]

On 3/24/2020 at 10:06 PM, dexterm said:

But what is your motive in obsessively wanting to call it the "Chinese virus"? Pedantry or racism?

Why not simply call it "corona virus"..something that won't draw racists' attention to any part of the community?

I did not start calling it the Chinese virus but I find it, in this particular case, quite an appropriate alternative to Corona or Covid-19! Nothing obsessive about this ???? 

[Sydebolle]

On 3/24/2020 at 6:10 PM, johnnybangkok said:

By your own logical fallacy I'll help you re-name a few other diseases:-

 

Argentinian foot and mouth

Mexican Swine Flu

French Syphilis

German Gonorrhea

West African Aids

Indian small pox

 

In could go on but I think you get the point. Stigmatising a country for being unfortunate enough to originate a major disease only adds to xenaphobia and provides no constructive narrative on how to combat it. But hey, when has being nice to foreigners been high on Trumps agenda.

 

 

 

As said earlieron, its not Chinas fault that this virus evolved (provided it was a natural evolutionary thing). 

What I blame the Chinese for is that they sat on the knowledge and information believing that this as well could be swiped under the big carpet. 

It became too late and the disaster was already on stage 2, 3 or 4. Latter could have been avoided, if China would play the mature role among the nations on this planet.

And that was my point and there is, apart from their face, no excuse for remaining quite for so long! 

[bristolboy]

6 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Call it the Chinese virus, it will embarrass those rice pickers and human rights benders; and maybe they think differently if there is a next time! 

"rice pickers'?

Nah, you're not bigoted in the least.

[Sydebolle]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

"rice pickers'?

Nah, you're not bigoted in the least.

The smarter Chinese (and thank the Lord, there are many of them) would have come clean; the politbureau is loaded with antiquated followers of Mao and they were all rice farmers. The minority left for Formosa at that time ......... 

It takes basic understanding how China is built and functions ........ 

[bristolboy]

3 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

The smarter Chinese (and thank the Lord, there are many of them) would have come clean; the politbureau is loaded with antiquated followers of Mao and they were all rice farmers. The minority left for Formosa at that time ......... 

It takes basic understanding how China is built and functions ........ 

Not even a nice try. Just an extraordinarily silly one to evade the charge of bigotry.

Do you understand that the year is 2020? The politburo is loaded with 90 year olds and centenarians? Really?

[Sydebolle]

15 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Not even a nice try. Just an extraordinarily silly one to evade the charge of bigotry.

Do you understand that the year is 2020? The politburo is loaded with 90 year olds and centenarians? Really?

As I already said - "It takes basic understanding how China is built and functions". The difference to the - as quoted by you - "90 years olds and the centenarians" is the tremendous filth and corruption. 

As I am always glad to learn; you will certainly be able to enlighten me, why exactly the leadership kept the big lid on that one as well.

Irrespective of point of view; the virus originated in - as named by Trump - China and hence I agree with his terminology of "Chinese Virus".

If they would have reported a problem immediately then I can assure you, thousands and thousands of lives might have been saved.

And that, to my irrelevant humble belief, is much more important than some political correctness rubbish of "charge of bigotry".