Trump says he had 'very friendly' call with political rival Biden

[UbonThani]

10 hours ago, tlandtday said:

If this senile decades old corrupt political hack is the answer what could possibly be the question lol.

 

 

Fruitloop

Worse than Hillary

[donnacha]

27 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

The dems don't have any heavy hitters. That's why Biden is left.

Yeah, they are in a tough spot.

In the current circumstances, Hillary would have more chance of swinging it now than she did in 2016. American women still want the symbolic moment of a female president. Having Romney as vice would certainly draw some of the swing voters. With everything else that is happening, it might be enough.

Michelle Obama. Definitely has political ambitions. Her lack of political experience is moot after Trump's success in getting elected with none at all. Behind the scenes she is said to be a terrible person, but the American people love her and miss her husband. Two more Obama terms would be a great narrative.

Oprah Winfrey. Huge name recognition, even bigger than Trump. Widely respected. Self-made multi-billionaire from the toughest and most traumatic of backgrounds, going straight to the dark heart of the American experience. The question is whether she would want all the hassle. I suspect not.

In terms of who would be best for America right now, Tulsi Gabbard, but there is zero chance of the party establishment accepting that. Gabbard/Yang would be the perfect ticket for this crisis.

 

 

Edited April 8, 2020 by donnacha

[Cryingdick]

6 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Yeah, they are in a tough spot.

In the current circumstances, Hillary would have more chance of swinging now than she did in 2016. American women still want the symbolic moment of a female president. Having Romney as vice would certainly draw some of the swing voters. With everything else that is happening, it might be enough.

Michelle Obama. Definitely has political ambitions. Her lack of political experience is moot after Trump's success in getting elected with none at all. Behind the scenes she is said to be a terrible person, but the American people love her and miss her husband. Two more Obama terms would be a great narrative.

Oprah Winfrey. Huge name recognition, even bigger than Trump. Widely respected. Self-made multi-billionaire from the toughest and most traumatic of backgrounds, going straight to the dark heart of the American experience. The question is whether she would want all the hassle. I suspect not.

In terms of who would be best for America right now, Tulsi Gabbard, but there is zero chance of the party establishment accepting that. Gabbard/Yang would be the perfect ticket for this crisis.

 

 

 

Wow that's crazy talk. My husband  (a Brit) was saying today with the money given it's like what Yang suggested. I told him the USA will be bankrupt in 3 months if it is like that. The government is giving out free money to everybody and there is no tax revenue to support it.

 

I understand the idea and you need to keep businesses open if you can. However with a plan like Yang's you reduce the tax revenue by keeping people from working. All of the USA needs to go back to work ASAP. 

Edited April 8, 2020 by Cryingdick

[donnacha]

13 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Any real contender will sit it out until 2024.

I would have agreed with you a month or two ago. The consensus among Democrats with a grasp on reality (as opposed to the activists) was that Trump was unbeatable, things were just going too well. All the impeachment stuff was a manifestation of that realization. Sitting this one out was the obvious strategy.

Now, however, an unexpected opportunity has opened up. You have to figure that the heavy hitters are now reassessing and realizing that if some other sonofabitch jumps ahead of them now, they'll be locked out until 2028 at the earliest.

 

[UbonThani]

Why do they delect senile guys from retirement homes?

 

Pick some bored baseballer. Would do better.

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, donnacha said:

I would have agreed with you a month or two ago. The consensus among Democrats with a grasp on reality (as opposed to the activists) was that Trump was unbeatable, things were just going too well. All the impeachment stuff was a manifestation of that realization. Sitting this one out was the obvious strategy.

Now, however, an unexpected opportunity has opened up. You have to figure that the heavy hitters are now reassessing and realizing that if some other sonofabitch jumps ahead of them now, they'll be locked out until 2028 at the earliest.

 

 

If you are right it's going to be fun to watch the blood bath at the now delayed DNC convention. Joe Biden assassinated by his own party live on TV.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Cryingdick

[donnacha]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

Wow that's crazy talk. My husband was saying today with the money given it's like what Yang suggested.

No, that's what I'm saying. Yang at least has given some thought to out-of-the-box policies that have suddenly become reality. For that reason, he would be good at inputting ideas, but not necessarily making decisions.

Tulsi has the right stuff, she is someone who could make good decisions under fire. She would also satisfy the desire that a substantial number of Americans have to see a female president, but without the corruption and cynicism of Clinton.

 

[donnacha]

6 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

However with a plan like Yang's you reduce the tax revenue by keeping people from working. All of the USA needs to go back to work ASAP. 

 
Sadly, a lot of those jobs are never coming back. Yang's point was that mechanization and Artificial Intelligence, over the next five or ten years, are going to wipe out entire categories of job. Sadly, as a technologist, I can say that his numbers stack up.

What none of us could have predicted was that so many other job categories would get wiped out from another direction entirely.

 

[Cryingdick]

Just now, donnacha said:

No, that's what I'm saying. Yang at least has given some thought to out-of-the-box policies that have suddenly become reality. For that reason, he would be good at inputting ideas, but not necessarily making decisions.

Tulsi has the right stuff, she is someone who could make good decisions under fire. She would also satisfy the desire that a substantial number of Americans have to see a female president, but without the corruption and cynicism of Clinton.

 

 

Reality? The reality is people will be on the streets in 2 months if they don't go back to work. The reality is if you put a sales tax which Yang wanted on goods right now you would have half the country starving in less time than that. 

 

What Yang advocated was permanent what is happening now is emergency measures. 

[Crazy Alex]

5 minutes ago, donnacha said:

I would have agreed with you a month or two ago. The consensus among Democrats with a grasp on reality (as opposed to the activists) was that Trump was unbeatable, things were just going too well. All the impeachment stuff was a manifestation of that realization. Sitting this one out was the obvious strategy.

Now, however, an unexpected opportunity has opened up. You have to figure that the heavy hitters are now reassessing and realizing that if some other sonofabitch jumps ahead of them now, they'll be locked out until 2028 at the earliest.

 

There's been some talk about Cuomo. First problem, he's the governor of New York. He'll have trouble getting the vote in a lot of states, not just the south.

 

Then there's his response to the virus. Oh sure, he's being hailed as a hero. He has good support in New York. But the media has largely covered for him. It will be fairly easy to point to the body count in New York and point out his missteps.

 

Of course, there's the power of the incumbency. George HW Bush was the only president to not win reelection in the last 40 years. Could Trump be the second? Maybe. But that's certainly not a lock.

 

It will definitely be interesting to see who the DNC replaces Biden with. And that act alone could cause a lot of discord among Democrat voters.

 

I am by no means saying it's a cake walk for Trump. But there are still many factors on his side.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, donnacha said:

 
Sadly, a lot of those jobs are never coming back. Yang's point was that mechanization and Artificial Intelligence, over the next five or ten years, are going to wipe out entire categories of job. Sadly, as a technologist, I can say that his numbers stack up.

What none of us could have predicted was that so many other job categories would get wiped out from another direction entirely.

 

 

What Yang couldn't predict is how soon it would happen. Those jobs aren't coming back and neither are the taxes  from them. The country is much less equipped to do a UBI then it was 6 months ago. 

[Cryingdick]

17 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

There's been some talk about Cuomo. First problem, he's the governor of New York. He'll have trouble getting the vote in a lot of states, not just the south.

 

Then there's his response to the virus. Oh sure, he's being hailed as a hero. He has good support in New York. But the media has largely covered for him. It will be fairly easy to point to the body count in New York and point out his missteps.

 

Of course, there's the power of the incumbency. George HW Bush was the only president to not win reelection in the last 40 years. Could Trump be the second? Maybe. But that's certainly not a lock.

 

It will definitely be interesting to see who the DNC replaces Biden with. And that act alone could cause a lot of discord among Democrat voters.

 

I am by no means saying it's a cake walk for Trump. But there are still many factors on his side.

 

Cuomo comes off as over bearing. He also mentions how special New yahkers are every 30 seconds. He would just look like another rich schmuck like Bloomberg if he was ever given a national podium.

 

Seriously I heard him talk about how New Yahkers, go to church and eat spaghetti and meatballs and sausage. He mentioned over and over the term New Yakhers. He talked about sausage and spaghetti for over 2 hours. If people think Trump is overbearing Cuomo is doing his best to be more so.

 

He is funny like a clown.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Cryingdick

[Crazy Alex]

14 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Why do they delect senile guys from retirement homes?

 

Pick some bored baseballer. Would do better.

Even if Biden survives the nomination process, the likelihood of him making it through the campaign without moments like the one below is slim to none. The video speaks for itself. It's him, in his own words, obviously not having a clue what he's doing, where he is and what he's supposed to do next. Even after his wife steps in to help, he's lost. A few moments like this are extremely likely. Trump and Republicans will see to it every voter sees how lost he is.

 

Edited April 8, 2020 by Crazy Alex

[donnacha]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Reality? The reality is people will be on the streets in 2 months if they don't go back to work. The reality is if you put a sales tax which Yang wanted on goods right now you would have half the country starving in less time than that. 

Hey, I'm not saying any of this stuff is a good idea. I believe government should be kept small enough to drown in a bathtub if necessary.

What I'm saying is that, if the Democratic Party wanted to win, they need to offer the American people a solid package. In purely presentational terms, Tulsi and Andrew have the right ingredients. They would be able to take down Trump in a way that Biden, in the current circumstances, simply cannot.

What I suspect they'll actually push forward is Hillary and Mitt. I hate that, but I see that it would probably work.


 

[Crazy Alex]

4 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Cuomo comes off as over bearing. He also mentions how special New yahkers are every 30 seconds. He would just look like another rich schmuck like Bloomberg if he was ever given a national podium.

 

Seriously I heard him talk about how New Yahkers, go to church and eat spaghetti and meatballs and sausage. He mentioned over and over the term New Yakhers. He talked about sausage and spaghetti for over 2 hours. If people think Trump is overbearing Cuomo is doing his best to be more so.

Thanks for reminding me- his "America was never that great" line. The line itself he can probably overcome. His underlying attitude that brought him to say it will come across in his words and actions.

[Crazy Alex]

2 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Hey, I'm not saying any of this stuff is a good idea. I believe government should be kept small enough to drown in a bathtub if necessary.

What I'm saying is that, if the Democratic Party wanted to win, they need to offer the American people a solid package. In purely presentational terms, Tulsi and Andrew have the right ingredients. They would be able to take down Trump in a way that Biden, in the current circumstances, simply cannot.

What I suspect they'll actually push forward is Hillary and Mitt. I hate that, but I see that it would probably work.


 

I like Tulsi. She's the only Democrat I donated to. She's pretty far left for me. But I believe she is in fact against endless wars and stirring up the establishment. What a shame the Democrat party didn't recognize what an asset she could be.

[donnacha]

9 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

There's been some talk about Cuomo.

Look, Cuomo is just Beto all over again. The media will lavish praise on anyone who is managing to take shots at Trump but, as soon as the caravan moves on, the love evaporates.

 

 

[donnacha]

Just now, Crazy Alex said:

What a shame the Democrat party didn't recognize what an asset she could be.

They immediately recognized what a threat she could be.

In an astonishing outburst, Hillary actually accused her, a sitting Democratic member of congress and a potential nominee for President, of being a Russian spy.

Whenever the Democrat establishment don't like someone, suddenly they see Russians everywhere.

 

[Isaan sailor]

Joe Biden’s time has come and gone, unfortunately.  One has only to see and hear his attempts at coherent speech.  But thanks to modern hair plug technology, he has new white locks where a barren landscape once existed.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Isaan sailor

[BobBKK]

I think it's a true courtesy that POTUS chats to ex VP for 15 mins on Monday (or was it Tuesday? oh maybe Sunday?)

[Cryingdick]

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

Thanks for reminding me- his "America was never that great" line. The line itself he can probably overcome. His underlying attitude that brought him to say it will come across in his words and actions.

 

Cuomo is most famous for saying things will never be the same.

[Dap]

What's all the commotion about Biden's age, compared to Trump? He's only 4 years older than the Donald. If you think Biden's too old then why not Trump as well? Fours years is nothing.

[sanuk711]

17 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Progress for Trump listening to a more intelligent man. May also picked up some tips on acting Presidential. 

Yes we may even hear Trump repeat some of his platitudes--- "You Dog face lying Pony Soldier" Should go well directed at some of the CNN reporters....... or there is always ...(*Look at me*) "I am a Caucus"  

When the republicans put up the McCain -Palin ticket, The Dems came out with a great line....... 

Incontinent & Incompetent........wondering what the R will think up for sleepy Joe.

[PattayaJames]

3 hours ago, Dap said:

What's all the commotion about Biden's age, compared to Trump? He's only 4 years older than the Donald. If you think Biden's too old then why not Trump as well? Fours years is nothing.

I do not see any commotion about his age?

It is his mental health that is in question.

[Cryingdick]

Seems we have now officially lost Bernie! It's Biden's race to lose now. 

[Crazy Alex]

2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Seems we have now officially lost Bernie! It's Biden's race to lose now. 

Glad to see he finally negotiated a deal with the DNC. I wonder what this year's prize is. Hopefully he held out for the really big bucks, given it's his last dance.

[Crazy Alex]

12 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Cuomo is most famous for saying things will never be the same.

Perfect. America won't elect someone who's given up so easily. But then again, America was never that great anyway, according to Cuomo.

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

I do not see any commotion about his age?

It is his mental health that is in question.

Yes. The president's mental health is definitely a big concern. Many psychiatrists have theories about the diagnosis -- but malignant narcissism seems to be common theme. 

[Cryingdick]

23 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Glad to see he finally negotiated a deal with the DNC. I wonder what this year's prize is. Hopefully he held out for the really big bucks, given it's his last dance.

 

The markets love it. The virus seems to be slowing and the other virus threat known as socialism is done. 

[Crazy Alex]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes. The president's mental health is definitely a big concern. Many psychiatrists have theories about the diagnosis -- but malignant narcissism seems to be common theme. 

It is unethical for a doctor to make a diagnosis of a patient without examining them. But since when do leftists have ethics.

 

Ironically, the people who went insane when Trump won are the very same people saying Trump has psychiatric issues.