TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 hours ago, elliss said: All part of the plan ... The mice in the test exhibited an odd side effect, though... Once injected, any time the mice saw anyone in a khaki uniform nearby, they bowed down and humbly prostrated themselves.... Modern medical science is wonderful thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, petermik said: There you go..last to start but first to finish............maybe We should await the acclaim from other countries - we've been here before only to find that the vaccine for Dengue (both types), Ebola. AIDS etc etc was a bit like Schrödinger's cat - when you look in the box, the cat is always dead. An explanation is always there of course but somehow never quite given. These days, the world is more sceptical so this will probably need several airing in the press before anyone from overseas takes the bait. I suspect other countries would be more rapturous is TL developed a cure for T2 Diabetes, though I won't be holding my breath just yet. Ah well... this is Thailand after all. Land of grifts. Edited May 7, 2020 by ParkerN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 A mixture of somtam, fish sauce and pla la should kill any virus! Maybe throw in a few extra chilli's! (Pic kee noo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, GAZZPA said: Im curious about people who have no faith in science when it comes to vaccines or cures. I mean science has cured and conquered many diseases that killed us not too many years ago. We are also all living longer lives now, generally because of advances in medical science, who on earth would think thats a bad thing? I can understand the apprehension of trusting pharmaceutical companies that have a bottom line to consider but even so, to me the problems are far out weighed by the good that medication and vaccines bring to the world? I assume it isn't a religion thing? I mean i have a healthy respect for people who are in touch with their spiritual side but only to a point. For me as soon as a reputable company in a reputable country comes up with a vaccine I will be very happy. However, forgive me for saying that certainly won't be Thailand or China. Great post, I've found the ones who complain about vaccines also complain about, big pharma & promote Bill Gates conspiracies. My kids all had their shots, none of them have had a major illness and are protected. Most people have never seen the impact of infectious diseases like measles, diphtheria, meningitis, whooping cough. They don't fear them because they haven't seen them firsthand, because of vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Krataiboy said: Partners, just like I said. The AstraZeneca-Oxford University partnership is the first created since the U.K. government launched the Vaccines Taskforce two weeks ago to help find a new coronavirus vaccine. Details of the agreement are set to be finalized in the coming weeks. - Market Watch, May 3, 2020 Read the link I posted. Astra Zenica will play no part in development/testing of the vaccine. All done in house. They have also agreed to sell at cost worldwide for the duration of the pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yme Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I hope its better than the Ebola virus "vaccine" they announced in 2014 ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNROAMIN Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said: https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/05/905484/why-the-cdc-botched-its-coronavirus-testing/ Or the US. Interesting article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 6:29 PM, petermik said: There you go..last to start but first to finish............maybe Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't fast track the production of vaccines. If an irresponsible press suggests otherwise, it's simply an irresponsible press misleading the public. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 "Flying colors"? A response in a mouse doesn't mean much unless duplicated in humans. That's not flying colors. It's irresponsible and misleading to read more into one single study than it justifies. Mistakes can occur in studies, misinterpretations of data, and such things often do. that's why studies must be duplicated and confirmed. A prototype is exactly that. A prototype. This is merely a template to use for further development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonathan Swift Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Great post, I've found the ones who complain about vaccines also complain about, big pharma & promote Bill Gates conspiracies. My kids all had their shots, none of them have had a major illness and are protected. Most people have never seen the impact of infectious diseases like measles, diphtheria, meningitis, whooping cough. They don't fear them because they haven't seen them firsthand, because of vaccines. I come from the generation that had polio, and the ones you mentioned. I had mumps, meningitis, and chicken pox. The anti vaxxers, as you said, are tinfoil hat whackjobs. In the US, they have gone to jail for failing to protect their children 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil McCaverty said: Read the link I posted. Astra Zenica will play no part in development/testing of the vaccine. Read what I originally posted. I did not say AstraZenica will play any part in the development or testing of the vaccine. Good to hear, considering their track record, they won't. Why waste your time tilting at windmills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 6:31 PM, YetAnother said: o let me guess; thais , free to 30 baht; farang 5000 up No..only moaning farangs...They know who you are ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Krataiboy said: Read what I originally posted. I did not say AstraZenica will play any part in the development or testing of the vaccine. Good to hear, considering their track record, they won't. Why waste your time tilting at windmills? Why waste your time trolling people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 7:23 PM, lkv said: Regardless, I don't care about vaccines and I will not get one myself. Suppose they make vaccination a condition of getting a visa? I know I know, do not give them ideas. What worries me is that they may make it available without knowing the long term side effects and then make it compulsory for all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said: Suppose they make vaccination a condition of getting a visa? I know I know, do not give them ideas. What worries me is that they may make it available without knowing the long term side effects and then make it compulsory for all. It may be mandatory for entry into Thailand but they cant make it compulsory for you to be vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Facts are facts. If you don't happen to like them, tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Garvie Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, CGW said: Obviously you consider yourself to be an expert, quite why you assume I am by reprinting a post I believe to be true is beyond me, as too the personal "insults" why? is there any need for that nonsense, keep it civil please ???? Please post exactly what is in vaccines, you obviously know more than I do as I believe what I posted, happy if you prove otherwise? Please inform me why the US government has paid out over 4 billion USD for "vaccine injuries"? https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html Thank you, looking forward to your informed reply & remember being polite is free ???? OK I am passionately in favour of vaccines, as also almost all doctors a scientists are. They have saved the lives of many hundreds of millions of people. I fear we have forgotten just how awful these diseases were. A ward full of polio victims in iron lungs was a heartbreaking sight. If I was moved to be unfairly critical of you I apologise. My grandfather's research helped lead to the diphtheria vaccine, a horrible deadly disease. Yes I am motivated. I was commenting on one misunderstood aspect of anti-vaxxer beliefs. I'm afraid I don't have the time to research this further at the moment, (I am working to a deadline on some compositions). What I will say is that my impression is that, as has proved to be the case with populist conspiracies generally, the facts tend to be distorted, exaggerated, or just made up. Normally vaccines have a dead or weakened virus to teach our immune systems to recognise the "Enemy'. This is presented in a solution suitable to the vaccine used. This is rather like having sunscreen, which is mainly a cream, with a chemical to filter out the UV. The solution is a carrier, not full of active chemicals. Vaccines have now been used with billions of people, with this vast database we have huge evidence that they are safe, except in certain rare individuals. Were they all as safe as this in the past, no they weren't, we have learned a lot. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 no more probs then bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lespaulTV Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 All the usual wise crack from the cranky, but secretly everyone is hoping... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capdagde Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Well, what else would it have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DaRoadrunner said: Suppose they make vaccination a condition of getting a visa? I know I know, do not give them ideas. What worries me is that they may make it available without knowing the long term side effects and then make it compulsory for all. It's compulsory , for farlangs @ their next90 days , immigration visit . Just Wai lower , and kiss ass .. When i was in the civil service , they were called the brown tie brigade.. Edited May 7, 2020 by elliss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyjed Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Israel is leading the way as human trials are already well in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runamok27 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 They are very far away from a vaccine. Even the countries starting human trials are quite far away as there are 3 levels to the human trials and after administering the vaccine you do have to wait and observe for quite a while. If any vaccine is available before late 2021 I would be apprehensive about getting it because clearly, normal testing protocols were not followed. At that point, it becomes a <deleted> shoot whether it works or not and whether it will make the virus worse, a common shortcoming with vaccines. I am not an anti-vaxxer, I just believe that you should ALWAYS follow scientific protocols developed over decades for safety and efficacy reasons. With the amount of extreme fear out there I don't think they'll have too many problems finding plenty of volunteers to take the experimental vaccines, yeah and I am talking about after the vaccine is released, not the actual testing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyk Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 6:43 AM, anterian said: Probably created in China and details passed to Thailand, it would be too suspicious for China to declare its creation. Exactly what I was thinking.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Quote Regardless, I don't care about vaccines and I will not get one myself. Here’s hoping that when a vaccine is available, they’ll make it mandatory for all those entering Thailand or applying for visa extensions. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaRoadrunner Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, billp said: Here’s hoping that when a vaccine is available, they’ll make it mandatory for all those entering Thailand or applying for visa extensions. Speak for yourself, I refuse to have it forced on me. What if it has side effects? Would you trust a vaccine developed by the Thais? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TeaMonkey Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 I’m going to refuse this vaccine too. But I’ll give it to my mouse. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGW Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said: OK I am passionately in favour of vaccines, as also almost all doctors a scientists are. They have saved the lives of many hundreds of millions of people. I fear we have forgotten just how awful these diseases were. A ward full of polio victims in iron lungs was a heartbreaking sight. If I was moved to be unfairly critical of you I apologise. My grandfather's research helped lead to the diphtheria vaccine, a horrible deadly disease. Yes I am motivated. Appreciate your reply, though note still no information of what is in a vaccine? I am passionately in favour of natural health & have long been amazed how people support private companies making vaccines for huge profits, they really buy into it and get quite "passionate" when someone disagrees with their beliefs. Big Pharma are doing it for the money, not for people's health, its a business. If they cared about peoples health they would be encouraging people to build up their "God" given natural immune systems rather than injecting chemicals into their bodies for profit, just how many vaccines do people need? - again IMO, it is profit over health, with no regulation as they have everybody in their "pockets"! The main stream media is totally corrupted, "corporates" tell them what to print, rarely do we read about the incompetence that thrives in the medical profession, yet 250,000 people a year in America alone are "killed" through medical negligence. These are the reported figures, add in the rest of the world! Cognitive dissonance, we all suffer from it, I'm not going to change your mind, so will leave it at that. Stay healthy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yourauntbob Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 I'd take my chances with the virus over the vaccine every day of the week and twice on Sunday 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) On 5/6/2020 at 6:27 PM, snoop1130 said: “Even though vaccine development in Thailand has not advanced as fast as in countries such as China, hopefully Thai scientists will develop a Covid-19 vaccine that will stand the test of time." They compare everything only to China. All hope in the future will rely on primary on China because they understand Thainess, Thai democracy, and handing the side payments through the proper channels Edited May 7, 2020 by Redline 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now