6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Doesn't matter if they have the best military in the world if the POTUS isn't prepared to use it.

 

Agreed. Too much hatred for the "other" now.

that's rarely been a problem for the usa.  our problem is that few of our leaders have any military experience, and in some cases any experience other than bankrupting casinos or insider trading.

 

when the country needed them, the guys in charge spent their time partying with multiple deferments.  their only knowledge of the military is watching reruns of "mchale's navy" and "the a-team."

 

these are the guys that now have to wear flight jackets for photo ops and launch cruise missiles to show their bigly manhood.  these are the guys who think torture works, cause they seen it on the teevee.  these are the guys that back out of nukular disarmament treaties, cause they have secret plans for a "super duper rocket".  (see:  youtube - slim pickens riding the bomb)

2 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

that's rarely been a problem for the usa.  our problem is that few of our leaders have any military experience, and in some cases any experience other than bankrupting casinos or insider trading.

 

when the country needed them, the guys in charge spent their time partying with multiple deferments.  their only knowledge of the military is watching reruns of "mchale's navy" and "the a-team."

 

these are the guys that now have to wear flight jackets for photo ops and launch cruise missiles to show their bigly manhood.  these are the guys who think torture works, cause they seen it on the teevee.  these are the guys that back out of nukular disarmament treaties, cause they have secret plans for a "super duper rocket".  (see:  youtube - slim pickens riding the bomb)

and as you opened the door, what military experience did Obama and Bill Clinton have?

 

 

46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and as you opened the door, what military experience did Obama and Bill Clinton have?

 

 

where in my post did i restrict my comments to the current leadership?

and why limit "leaders" to commanders-in-chief?

Trump goes to toilet. Democrats launch probe. Schiff promises to to bottom of it, and has a insider leaking the contents of the toilet to him. The contents of the toilet are explosive says Schiff and he deserves to be impeached for that, Putin implicated also. All 17 intelligence agencies will now monitor the toilet closely. Dumpf is finished finished say experts.

 

Greta Thunberg shocked when told toilet was not an eco-flushing model 'How dare he' she is reported to have exclaimed.

18 hours ago, heybruce said:

The 'no confidence' reason was followed up with a factual summary of IG Walpin making repeated comments to the press regarding an investigation that was still in progress in what appeared to be an attempt to influence a mayoral election.  http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31325894/ns/us_news-giving/t/obama-fires-americorps-inspector-general/

 

That's why Congress didn't pursue the matter.  So all Trump has to do is give a valid reason for firing the IG.  After all, what's good for the goose...

no confidence - go it?  they all serve at the pleasure of the president

On 5/17/2020 at 7:20 AM, Walker88 said:

Similar to IG Atkinson of the Intel Community, IG Linick was fired for doing his job. Under 45, there is fealty or fired. Atkinson and Linick refused to accept that the United States is not a Democratic Republic, but a monarchy. They were so naive that they thought the Founders system of checks and balances in government, of which IGs are an integral part, has been disbanded and eradicated by 45. Cronyism and blatant self-interest rule the day, and like North Korea, all must bow to the wishes of the new king.

 

This firing represents the second quashed investigation into Pompeo. The first was when it was uncovered that he and his wife fraudulently used campaign funds for personal use, just as Rep Duncan Hunter had done. Hunter was found guilty and will be going to jail. 45 had former AG Sessions stop the investigation of Pompeo. Pompeo also misused, for purely personal reasons, govt assets while he served as DCI. He had brought in his former business associate, a Filipino American (Brian Bulatao), to serve with him at CIA, and had the man, who was on the govt payroll, spend his time doing personal favors for both Pompeo and his wife. When Pompeo switched to Foggy Bottom, he took the man with him there and again used him---while on the Taxpayer clock---do personal errands for Pompeo and his wife.  This latter behavior was just one of the things IG Linick was tasked with investigating, but since under 45 drinking at the taxpayer trough is encouraged, IG Linick was fired for doing his job.

 

In the agency, Pompeo's departure for State garnered mixed feelings:  jubilation that such an unqualified and self-serving person had left the agency to professionals, mixed with sympathy for what agency folks knew the folks in Foggy Bottom would have to endure.

 

Those commenting here who get their 'news' from Fox or Gateway Pundit or other such know-nothing venues, have no clue of the reality of the situation. As one with a long association with these matters and direct first hand knowledge, I do know. I assure those who champion the firing of IG Linick, that your beliefs are ill-informed and wrong. Your beliefs, of course, are up to you, but you are wrong. Mine is not an opinion, just fact.

 Does anyone know that the deputy IG is still there and takes the responsibility over, including any current investigations?

 

Instead of the irrational emotional unhinged outrage, calm down and relax. 

 

 

There was no IG in state department while Hillary Clinton was sec of state. For her ENTIRE term. Convenient for her isn't it? No IG investigation for illegal email and classified information mishandling, and proven destruction of evidence. 

 

I see the usual cabal of tvf leftists have their hair on fire as usual whenever trump makes a legitimate normal legal personnel decision.

 

As usual, their double standards are applied to one side and ignored by anyone on their "team" 

On 5/20/2020 at 6:59 AM, heybruce said:

Funny, I don't recall Trump ever having an "investigate away" attitude when he was the target.

That would be because there has never been a predicate for it. EVER. 

5 hours ago, BobBKK said:

no confidence - go it?  they all serve at the pleasure of the president

So Obama went beyond the "no confidence" excuse, but Trump doesn't have to.  Is that it?

 

Clearly what's good for the goose isn't good for the pumpkin.

2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

That would be because there has never been a predicate for it. EVER. 

Good one!????????????

2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

 Does anyone know that the deputy IG is still there and takes the responsibility over, including any current investigations?

 

Instead of the irrational emotional unhinged outrage, calm down and relax. 

 

 

There was no IG in state department while Hillary Clinton was sec of state. For her ENTIRE term. Convenient for her isn't it? No IG investigation for illegal email and classified information mishandling, and proven destruction of evidence. 

 

I see the usual cabal of tvf leftists have their hair on fire as usual whenever trump makes a legitimate normal legal personnel decision.

 

As usual, their double standards are applied to one side and ignored by anyone on their "team" 

"Does anyone know that the deputy IG is still there and takes the responsibility over, including any current investigations?"

 

No.  Do you?  Do you think that, maybe, after his/her boss was fired for doing his job, this deputy IG might not feel a little pressure to fall in line?

 

"There was no IG in state department while Hillary Clinton was sec of state. For her ENTIRE term. Convenient for her isn't it? No IG investigation for illegal email and classified information mishandling, and proven destruction of evidence."

 

Right, no one ever investigated Hillary Clinton.  Oh, wait.... Maybe just a little.....

 

On 5/18/2020 at 3:55 PM, heybruce said:

Then please tell BobBKK that the topic isn't about his high opinion of Putin and Russia.

Huh?

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

So Obama went beyond the "no confidence" excuse, but Trump doesn't have to.  Is that it?

 

Clearly what's good for the goose isn't good for the pumpkin.

 

Well Pumpkins are for Halloween. Trump has the authority to fire who he likes especially Obama installed folk. As I said Trump was too kind and should have fired them all in 2016. Nothing personal but they are political appointments and bound to turn sour. Anyway electors decide Nov.

On 5/17/2020 at 4:50 AM, BobBKK said:

Forgive me for saying but that's complete nonsense on many levels. You say 'clearly not' yet millions disagree.

BTW leave Russia out of it - great country, great people and Putin has lifted it out of very dark days back when Yeltsin was in charge. Have you been there? (yes, I have many. many times) and I hate to see them used by Americans as the Bogey Man, reds under the bed nonsense.

 

On 5/17/2020 at 2:27 PM, heybruce said:

Are you claiming that Trump embraces constitutional checks and balances and is ok with Congressional oversight?

 

Do you think Russia's dictatorship with no real checks on Putin's power is a good thing and appropriate for the US?

 

9 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Huh?

Can't keep track of your posts?

On 5/20/2020 at 2:56 AM, BobBKK said:

Obama gave a reason 'no confidence' so what's good for the Goose...

 

9 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 

Well Pumpkins are for Halloween. Trump has the authority to fire who he likes especially Obama installed folk. As I said Trump was too kind and should have fired them all in 2016. Nothing personal but they are political appointments and bound to turn sour. Anyway electors decide Nov.

So now you are abandoning your post equating Obama's firing with cause for Trump's firing without cause.

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

 

 

Can't keep track of your posts?

Here's one to keep track of: this latest investigation scam the Democrats are engaging in will be yet another dry hole that increases Trump's immunity to silly investigations. I'm almost embarrassed for Schiff, Nadler and the rest of these clowns. They come across as cry bully school kids.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

 

So now you are abandoning your post equating Obama's firing with cause for Trump's firing without cause.

Trump doesn't have to give cause under the rules as they were posted on here before. He has to give a reason, but the sort of reason isn't specified, so can be because "I don't trust him".

19 hours ago, heybruce said:

"Does anyone know that the deputy IG is still there and takes the responsibility over, including any current investigations?"

 

No.  Do you?  Do you think that, maybe, after his/her boss was fired for doing his job, this deputy IG might not feel a little pressure to fall in line?

 

"There was no IG in state department while Hillary Clinton was sec of state. For her ENTIRE term. Convenient for her isn't it? No IG investigation for illegal email and classified information mishandling, and proven destruction of evidence."

 

Right, no one ever investigated Hillary Clinton.  Oh, wait.... Maybe just a little.....

 

Well aren't you special. 

 

Investigations don't stop just because an ig is being replaced. 

 

And the weak feckless deflection about an investigation where she was afforded immunity as were her associates and was never held accountable for anything during her tenure.

 

no state department ig for the entire term of Hillary Clinton while moaning about one being replaced is precisely the ridiculous double standards that we expect from the liberal progressive hive. 

 

2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Well aren't you special. 

 

Investigations don't stop just because an ig is being replaced. 

 

And the weak feckless deflection about an investigation where she was afforded immunity as were her associates and was never held accountable for anything during her tenure.

 

no state department ig for the entire term of Hillary Clinton while moaning about one being replaced is precisely the ridiculous double standards that we expect from the liberal progressive hive. 

 

I've concluded a great many Trump supporters are "special".

 

Investigations can certainly be derailed by a change, or absence, of leadership.  I suspect that is the intent of this firing, but only time will tell.  When (if) the IG is replaced and by whom will be informative. 

 

Speaking of weak, feckless deflections, what does the status of the IG position from years ago have to do with this topic?  I'd challenge you to support your claim of Clinton immunity, but that would allow you to further derail the topic.

16 hours ago, heybruce said:

what does the status of the IG position from years ago have to do with this topic?

Precedent.

 

 

On 5/20/2020 at 4:42 AM, heybruce said:

The 'no confidence' reason was followed up with a factual summary of IG Walpin making repeated comments to the press regarding an investigation that was still in progress in what appeared to be an attempt to influence a mayoral election.  http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31325894/ns/us_news-giving/t/obama-fires-americorps-inspector-general/

 

That's why Congress didn't pursue the matter.  So all Trump has to do is give a valid reason for firing the IG.  After all, what's good for the goose...

 

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Precedent.

 

 

I'm ok with that.  The precedent has been established of doing better than "no confidence".  

On 5/22/2020 at 6:42 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump doesn't have to give cause under the rules as they were posted on here before. He has to give a reason, but the sort of reason isn't specified, so can be because "I don't trust him".

He wasnt fired because hes not trusted. He was fired becsuse pompeo asked for it because he was being investigated.

On 5/23/2020 at 6:08 PM, Sujo said:

He wasnt fired because hes not trusted. He was fired becsuse pompeo asked for it because he was being investigated.

What don't you get about "serving at the pleasure of the president"? Can be any excuse.

Trump should have fired all Obama appointees after he was elected and saved himself this problem.

I think it will happen in future.

ANOTHER Democrat investigation? Hilarious.