Trump defends his use of unproven treatment as prevention against coronavirus

[earlinclaifornia]

2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes, because they should all be as inoffensive and non-abusive as Trump, a person who has never mocked anyone with a weight problem, looks, disabilities etc!

Seriously Topdeadsenter, if that's not just a trolling post I strongly suggest you seek professional help. 

Honestly the rallies he has are mostly the same as him, obesity lookers.

[ukrules]

Regardless of whether this makes any difference or not it's a personal choice by him.

 

Many drugs have a long list of horrendous potential side effects which hardly affect anyone.

 

I take something that some people will go around advising others never to take as it 'destroyed their life' for a while, I have zero side effects as do the vast majority of people.

 

Same as statins, some people have real problems with them, lots of others - no problem.

 

This drug has been available over the counter without prescription in the UK (one of the biggest nanny states of them all) for a very long time.

 

If you want to read about examples of very serious side effects in a widely used drug google this 'ibuprofen toxic epidermal necrolysis death'

 

[earlinclaifornia]

2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

We don't know whether he is right or wrong, because nobody knows for sure. At least Trump recommended we make up our own minds.

 

What a welcome change from having them made up for us by so-called experts - most of whom can't even agree among themselves even what day it is.

 

Note to myself not everyone knows enough to trust themselves as they admit they let themselves, even when an expert is offering advice.

[n00dle]

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"old guys almost dead already"

 

Hits rather close to home, its a wonder he doesnt see the parallel.

 

I doubt he is taking it, and I think he is shilling.

[Tippaporn]

LOL, one of the funniest threads I've read.  Libs run amok!  The comments are priceless.  Especially the one above.

 

Opinions aside nobody can deny hydroxychloroquine has had great beneficial success for a lot of people.  So how to justify all the ridicule towards Trump?  Hatred.  So many sick people in the world.

 

Rather than link to a bunch of articles I'll provide a host of evidence via a simple search.

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hydroxychloroquine+success+stories&atb=v216-1&ia=web

 

Now folks, try arguing with real facts.

[jordanmarcinkus]

President Trump might try something that has scientific backing:

Wearing a face mask can reduce coronavirus transmission by up to 75 percent, study says

https://www.foxnews.com/health/wearing-face-mask-reduce-coronavirus-transmission-75-percent-study-shows

[jordanmarcinkus]

46 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL, one of the funniest threads I've read.  Libs run amok!  The comments are priceless.  Especially the one above.

 

Opinions aside nobody can deny hydroxychloroquine has had great beneficial success for a lot of people.  So how to justify all the ridicule towards Trump?  Hatred.  So many sick people in the world.

 

Rather than link to a bunch of articles I'll provide a host of evidence via a simple search.

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hydroxychloroquine+success+stories&atb=v216-1&ia=web

 

Now folks, try arguing with real facts.

But not science.

[chokrai]

Trump is trolling all you lefties right back into the Whitehouse and you are so consumed with hatred you can't see it coming. It really is the greatest show on earth.

[Tippaporn]

10 minutes ago, jordanmarcinkus said:

But not science.

Not your science.  Your science seems to be hatred.  I'm sure the science is discussed by some of the physicians in the available articles about hydroxychloroquine success stories.  I'll bet you haven't read a single one of them before hollowly proclaiming that none of the articles deal with science.

 

I'm telling you, the lib comments in this thread are pure comedy.  LOL

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[winslowsjardine]

15 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Not your science.  Your science seems to be hatred.  I'm sure the science is discussed by some of the physicians in the available articles about hydroxychloroquine success stories.  I'll bet you haven't read a single one of them before hollowly proclaiming that none of the articles deal with science.

 

I'm telling you, the lib comments in this thread are pure comedy.  LOL

What did I write that indicated hatred? It seems that all the negative emotion is coming from you.

[winslowsjardine]

16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Not your science.  Your science seems to be hatred.  I'm sure the science is discussed by some of the physicians in the available articles about hydroxychloroquine success stories.  I'll bet you haven't read a single one of them before hollowly proclaiming that none of the articles deal with science.

 

I'm telling you, the lib comments in this thread are pure comedy.  LOL

Success stories are anecdotal. That's not science. 

[riclag]

IMOP,A investigation headed by the world medical organization should take place and decide whether  to take away all those Dr's  medical licenses to practice medicine, for prescribing it. And while reuters is at it, do a hit piece on the FDA for allowing it.

From a April article:

 "The decision on Sunday to grant an emergency-use authorization to chloroquine-based products represented the first time the FDA has used its emergency powers to expand access to a drug during the COVID-19 pandemic".

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-scant-evidence-for-chloroquine-so-far-as-a-covid-19-drug-but-theres-already-a-shortage-2020-03-30

Edited May 20, 2020 by riclag

[winslowsjardine]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

IMOP,A investigation headed by the world medical organization should take away all those Dr's  medical licenses to practice medicine, for prescribing it. And while reuters is at it, do a hit piece on the FDA for allowing it.

From a April article:

 "The decision on Sunday to grant an emergency-use authorization to chloroquine-based products represented the first time the FDA has used its emergency powers to expand access to a drug during the COVID-19 pandemic".

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-scant-evidence-for-chloroquine-so-far-as-a-covid-19-drug-but-theres-already-a-shortage-2020-03-30

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

[Throatwobbler]

6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I still can't get over the democrat speaker of the house of representatives calling Trump "morbidly obese" because he is taking measures to protect himself from coronavirus. I mean what are her own team members like Jerry Nadler and Stacy Abrams thinking when she speaks like this? Trump's stature has nothing to do with the Chinese virus and his taking of anti-virals, so I do not understand the relevance of her comments. Moreover, considering she looks like a cadaver with fake eyebrows, she should not be mocking anybodies personal appearance. Another disgraceful chapter in the book of democrat bad behavior.

Every single post of yours is just Trump propaganda. I always look forward to your posts so I can have a good laugh.

[riclag]

14 minutes ago, winslowsjardine said:

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

Yes ,with dr's consent!  Its always been like that!

"You may be asking yourself why your healthcare provider would want to prescribe a drug to treat a disease or medical condition that the drug is not approved for"

https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/understanding-unapproved-use-approved-drugs-label

 

Damm those Dr's who dare to follow the fda guidence!

Seems that the POTUS has talked it over with his dr's

Edited May 20, 2020 by riclag

[Throatwobbler]

36 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Not your science.  Your science seems to be hatred.  I'm sure the science is discussed by some of the physicians in the available articles about hydroxychloroquine success stories.  I'll bet you haven't read a single one of them before hollowly proclaiming that none of the articles deal with science.

 

I'm telling you, the lib comments in this thread are pure comedy.  LOL

You really don't understand what science is and the scientific process. What is pure comic gold is the people who try to pass themselves off as intelligent, then reading what they post.

[winslowsjardine]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

Yes ,with dr's consent!  Its always been like that!

"You may be asking yourself why your healthcare provider would want to prescribe a drug to treat a disease or medical condition that the drug is not approved for"

https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/understanding-unapproved-use-approved-drugs-label

 

Damm those Dr's who dare to follow the fda guidence

The link you used was from an earlier date. The FDA has changed its guidance since then. 

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, winslowsjardine said:

The link you used was from an earlier date. The FDA has changed its guidance since then. 

Yes it is from a earlier date ! Please show a link that says dr's are not allowed to prescribe it

[winslowsjardine]

10 minutes ago, riclag said:

Yes it is from a earlier date ! Please show a link that says dr's are not allowed to prescribe it

It's not about doctors not being allowed to prescribe it. Doctors are allowed to prescribe just about anything off label (with the exception of controlled substances).  So there's nothing special about a doctor prescribing Hydroxychloroquine off label. It is about the FDA updating its stance and recommending against using it except in a hospital setting or in clinical trials.

[jordanmarcinkus]

1 minute ago, winslowsjardine said:

It's not about doctors not being allowed to prescribe it. Doctors are allowed to prescribe just about anything off label (with the exception of controlled substances).  So there's nothing special about a doctor prescribing Hydroxychloroquine off label. It is about the FDA updating its stance and recommending against using it except in a hospital setting or in clinical trials.

What he said.

[winslowsjardine]

1 minute ago, jordanmarcinkus said:

What he said.

You're welcome????

[Krataiboy]

5 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Asked if a White House doctor had recommended that Trump take the drug, Trump said (allegedly), "I asked him, 'Well, what do you think?' And he said, 'Well, if you'd like it.' 'I said, 'Yeah, I'd like it.'" 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-donald-trump-taking-drug-covid-19-prevention/

Hardly a ringing medical prescription. 

The smart "experts" hedge their bets.

[Krataiboy]

5 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

"A long-winded ramble around the mulberry bush for nothing. Trump checked with the White House's chief physician before taking the medication. Besides. . . 

An international poll of thousands of doctors rated the Trump-touted anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine the best treatment for the novel coronavirus.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-most-effective-coronavirus-treatment-poll/"

 

So you do listen to medial health care experts (i.e. doctors). Good for you!

 

"As for trusting health "experts. . . did you know that medical negligence is the third most common cause of death in the US after heart disease and cancer?

Ah, well, I guess you can't make an omelette . . . 

https://aeelaw.com/medical-negligence-the-third-largest-killer-in-the-us/"

 

Hold it....or don't you? I guess you're having a hard time making your mind up.

Hardly surprising. This may not be the most serious virus ever,  but - thanks to the endless contradictory input from so-called experts of every stripe - it undoubtedly is the most confusing.

[Sujo]

14 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Hardly surprising. This may not be the most serious virus ever,  but - thanks to the endless contradictory input from so-called experts of every stripe - it undoubtedly is the most confusing.

Nothing contradictory about what experts say. Its the self proclaimed experts and the president causing confusion.

[Yankeesvsredsox]

6 minutes ago, condobrit001 said:

Clearly you are a Trump supporter and should play no part in suppressing comments on this forum for your own political ends! 

Your joking right

[newnative]

   And, to be doubly safe, he should be taking his own advice and having a daily swig of Clorox to clear out all that nasty virus build-up.  I hear the new lemon flavor is a bit easier to swallow.  

[longway]

18 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

And lots of doctors who show proof that it works.  Perhaps not effective in serious cases but otherwise found to be effective.

No anti viral works in advanced stages of viral infections. This includes remdesivir. HCQ/Athi combo is part of the standard treatment protocol when patients first show up with covid symptoms in Thailand and other countries. Alot of frontline medical staff also take HCQ as a precaution. There is nothing controversial about HCQ, its a well known drug that is well tolerated and has shown good results when administered properly.

Edited May 20, 2020 by longway

[Tippaporn]

8 hours ago, winslowsjardine said:

Success stories are anecdotal. That's not science. 

LOL.  That's simply an automated blanket response.  And usually given without reading any of the scientific evidence provided in success stories.

 

And here's a very important question for ya (and just to forewarn, don't get all squirrelly in a reply):

 

Whose science are we talking about?  You know, is it the settled science type that global warming is real or is it the science type which counters the settled science type?  Inquiring minds want to know.

[metisdead]

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