1 hour ago, dallen52 said:

The whole thing is tied into tourists. 

Not many Thai men drink at the bars.

 

They really have to come up with a common sense approach to remove the border protection. 

Get the planes coming back to Thailand. 

Nobody has caught covid19 on a plane. True.

Seriously think about the farang tourists and others. 

They are the Salvation here.

The government couldn't even hand out the 5000 baht offerings they promised. 

We now have 6 million more farmers according to the system. Rubbish. 

 

I've said before the government will get one decent crack at this. 

Make it safe and easy to get back and from June/July people will start to return. 

Impose too much government restrictions and they will not bother. 

Dude are you on medication, they need western tourist like flies need insect repellant, in fact if it was that easy they would spray us on our way out. They dont need or want western tourists, India and China combined with the rest of Asia will give them trillions is tourism dollars. 

 

Dr. Khamnuan Ungchusak (คำนวณ อึ้งชูศักดิ์), the Director of the Epidemiology Bureau of the Disease Control Just another made up story, another faceless person. No trace of him/her on google. thai visa should check their sources.

Edited May 20, 20206 yr by bluedoc

3 hours ago, redwood1 said:

Yea we can have Sihanoukville part 2....Wont it be wonderful...

That's is the future of Pattaya 100% casinos casinos ching ching and watch Pattaya become the Vegas of the east, competing with Macau at every level. 

11 hours ago, Oldie said:

Endless bars here in Pattaya have been without (m)any customers even during the high season. I am always asking myself how they survive or if they are perhaps only used for money laundering.

 

I think this bar business is outdated and should be replaced by more appealing things. Could be the right time now to change this sex and booze image. Alone walking on the Beach Road in not Corona times is a sex hassle for "normal" tourists. But even yesterday when I had to walk to the post office - "I come with you", "boom boom" and other invitations for sex. An open air brothel open at daytime already and this even at Corona times. 

You seem very naive. I guess you never go out that much in Pattaya. 

Glancing through a variety of posts, I vote for CASINO$ as the answer to Pattaya's economical woes. This is a good opportunity for Thailand to face the truth that their citizens love to gamble, and positioning Pattaya as the top SE Asian casino destination will keep money that goes into Cambodian and Chinese (Macau) pockets stimulating the Thai economy instead.

 

Thailand finally has a REAL shot at being a 'hub", and that's something its gov'ts have drooled for one after the other. That little man at the top of the gov't could be the first one to achieve that crowning glory if he can climb down a bit from his high horse of morality and accept that people will always want to gamble, regardless of all his influence to keep everyone pure. 

 

Edited May 20, 20206 yr by Inn Between

"Social distancing was impossible at bars and clubs and discos"

And social distancing is possible in markets in BKK with thousands of people shoulder to shoulder every minute? 

11 hours ago, Oldie said:

Endless bars here in Pattaya have been without (m)any customers even during the high season. I am always asking myself how they survive or if they are perhaps only used for money laundering.

 

I think this bar business is outdated and should be replaced by more appealing things. Could be the right time now to change this sex and booze image. Alone walking on the Beach Road in not Corona times is a sex hassle for "normal" tourists. But even yesterday when I had to walk to the post office - "I come with you", "boom boom" and other invitations for sex. An open air brothel open at daytime already and this even at Corona times. 

Maybe you're in the wrong town? Hua Hin might be more your speed.

9 hours ago, smedly said:

he has no clue - he's just posting for attention after reading the same boring book over a hundred times  

 

OT - I think clubs and disco's will have a problem but bars not so much different from restaurants 

 

but also considering there is next to zero CV19 in Thailand - what is the big deal anyway

Pattaya has to change.  

NO I am not saying close the bars and stop the lovely ladies.

 

Everyone is right it is the oldest profession and you can not stop it.

HOWEVER, Times change and so does what tourists and people visiting want.

How many areas in Pattaya have the clubs.  Most of it.

What would happen if you closed the bars on walking street? LKMetro and other areas would pick up the slack.  Need proof  How many Canucks remember the old Yonge street from Bloor to the Eaton Centre.  I was strip clubs bars and prostitutes with homeless people sleeping on the subway grates.   The stores sold bongs and papers and other <deleted> like posters.  The city realized that if it wanted to improve it's image they needed to clean up Yonge street and open more family friendsly businesses.  The Prostitutes left the bong stores went out of business and the strip clubs except for 2 went under. 

 

What can you replace walking Street with how about a complete make over of the seashore.  Put up the walls to save the erosion.  Tear down walking street and make it a family/ Seminar/Sports area for conventions. OR YOU COULD OPEN THE CASINO THERE.

See if you can entice someone to spend the money to make it a famiy play area so that people can stay in the hotels but walk to the waterpark or to the Amusement park.  

1 hour ago, Oldie said:

But "we" are not all ????

Yet ''We'' are ''Some''

Just now, pmk1000 said:

That's is the future of Pattaya 100% casinos casinos ching ching and watch Pattaya become the Vegas of the east, competing with Macau at every level. 

Do you know what happened in Sihanoukville, over run by Chinese and no employment advantages for the Cambodians, just trashed that was a nice friendly hideaway.  

Terrible headline!

 

So many better ways to sum up that article.

The trouble is millions of people are going to have to do something else as well.  The 'something else' sector is certainly in for a boom.  Perhaps the unlucky ones can do something something else, and then something something something else. The possibilities are endless.

22 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

See if you can entice someone to spend the money to make it a famiy play area so that people can stay in the hotels but walk to the waterpark or to the Amusement park. 

There are already a lot of waterpark in the Pattaya area

they are empty most of the time. the entry ticket is expensive

and the whole experience is boring as f...k after 1 or 2 visits.

I mean who is going to travel thousands of miles with his family just for that?

Edited May 20, 20206 yr by kingofthemountain

8 hours ago, Benmart said:

"We"? Don't include me in your know all statement. 

Dear me what a statement you have just made. So why the **** are you still here and why did you come in the first place. Oh wait! It was the beautiful beach, etc. ????

 

We all stay here because we initially came for the same reasons, women/men/ladyboys, booze, sun and lawlessness. Nothing has changed since the US GIs first set foot in this town, so please stop these daft comments and lets hope the lunatics up in the big smog wake up and realise this virus, like others, will never go away in full and all of us just need to get on with our lives. If you feel sick, go to the doc. If a mossie bites you bad, go to the doc. If a street dog bites you, go to the doc....it ain"t rocket science, unless that is a bar girl bites you ???? 

11 hours ago, Oldie said:

Pattaya can change and look for tourists with other interests than sex and booze. Perhaps now is the best time for this. 

Like it or not , one of the main driving forces behind tourism to Thailand was its ' entertainment '.Scrap that and rely on filthy beaches , ever increasing cost and a rip off culture , yeh that will work.

1 hour ago, Max69xl said:

"Social distancing was impossible at bars and clubs and discos"

And social distancing is possible in markets in BKK with thousands of people shoulder to shoulder every minute? 

Totally agree. Their arguments are flawed, especially if you include the BTS station crowds in Bangkok. As it has been stated, there has been more cases of Dengue fever (8,147 people) than this daft virus. So with the current mentality, the Dengue fever and deaths on Thai roads figures, no one sits outside and no one drives anywhere, ever!! Total madness 

Edited May 20, 20206 yr by Holmsedale25

10 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Like it or not , one of the main driving forces behind tourism to Thailand was its ' entertainment '.Scrap that and rely on filthy beaches , ever increasing cost and a rip off culture , yeh that will work.

The day might come when the bars and ladies will be expensive. Too expensive for some of todays customers. The US soldiers left long time ago and Thailand changed and still changes a lot. It will not go back in time. 

9 minutes ago, Holmsedale25 said:

Totally agree. Their arguments are flawed, especially if you include the BTS station crowds in Bangkok. As it has been stated, there has been more cases of Dengue fever (8,147 people) than this daft virus. So with the current mentality, the Dengue fever and deaths on Thai roads figures, no one sits outside and no one drives anywhere, ever!! Total madness 

Dengue fever does not get transmitted from person to person, so not really relevant in a social distancing discussion, and the Thai road deaths falls under the logical fallacy of false equivalence. Both of your arguments are flawed.

I wonder if the international airline companies could take this advice too. Since you can never apply "social distancing" measures in a plane. Why don't the global airline industry just look for something else to do? The advice given by the government is foolish. A massive chunk of Thailand's GDP is mostly from tourism. To say the bars just "look for something else to do" is asinine. 

 

To do it, you need a nation wide re-education program, long term de-scaling from tourism to other markets like electronics or other production. Thailand could take foreign manufacturers that are leaving China. India is doing it. 

 

Why aren't the Thai government aggressively marketing Thailand as the new production center in Asia? Take some of China's current foreign manufacturers that are actively looking outside of China. 

 

This requires long term planning and a love for their country to grow and prosper but it requires hard work. I suspect it's not done because it DOES require hard work. 

 

Cuts into government official "recreation" time. 

 

So patriotic.

25 minutes ago, brucec64 said:

Dengue fever does not get transmitted from person to person, so not really relevant in a social distancing discussion, and the Thai road deaths falls under the logical fallacy of false equivalence. Both of your arguments are flawed.

No they are not. The point is the mentality. How do you stop mossies biting?? By staying indoors or in a bio safety suit forever?? You can't can you. So my point is you will never stop a person to person virus from completely diminishing globally. We have to live with it but putting up plastic sheets between a table of friends or family having dinner or having a beer with friends with face masks on is just bloody stupid. Its this mentality my arguments are aimed at

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

Like it or not , one of the main driving forces behind tourism to Thailand was its ' entertainment '.Scrap that and rely on filthy beaches , ever increasing cost and a rip off culture , yeh that will work.

Your obviously talking about sex tourist's, no need to dance around it. It will always be here just more in line with the rest of SEA where its not right in your face. This conservative government wants to shut it down, always has and now is the right time ..anybody thinking that stopping sex tourist will destroy Thai tourism are not to bright

13 hours ago, Oldie said:

Endless bars here in Pattaya have been without (m)any customers even during the high season. I am always asking myself how they survive or if they are perhaps only used for money laundering.

 

I think this bar business is outdated and should be replaced by more appealing things. Could be the right time now to change this sex and booze image. Alone walking on the Beach Road in not Corona times is a sex hassle for "normal" tourists. But even yesterday when I had to walk to the post office - "I come with you", "boom boom" and other invitations for sex. An open air brothel open at daytime already and this even at Corona times. 

What's wrong to old to get it up????

Edited May 20, 20206 yr by Redvic
Wrong post

14 hours ago, redwood1 said:

Musicians skills are only gained after years of hard work and do not really apply to any other job......Its a damm sad situation....

 

But things have been getting worse for musicians for decades already........Napster was the start of musicians wows.....Record sales started falling each year.....Then digital downloads stole most of musicians recording income....They only get fractions of a cent for digital downloads....

David Crosby and others have been very vocal about the music theft that is going on in the music industry...

 

Now if musicians cant play live they have almost zero income.....

 

 

 

Good point, but things haven't changed much as the agents, managers and record companies used to get 90% of the money. Ask Blondie and many before them. 

3 hours ago, bluedoc said:

 

Dr. Khamnuan Ungchusak (คำนวณ อึ้งชูศักดิ์), the Director of the Epidemiology Bureau of the Disease Control Just another made up story, another faceless person. No trace of him/her on google. thai visa should check their sources.

Publied yesterday on Pattayanews.com

 

'' Earlier this week, a doctor speaking at a seminar, Dr. Pramuan Ungchusak, a former expert in Preventive Medicine in Epidemiology and part of the Department of Disease Control, who has been one of dozens of advisors to the Public Health Ministry, caused heated debate on Thai social media when he suggested that bars, pubs, karaokes, clubs and lounges should all change into something else and not try to re-open and remain closed until a vaccine could be found. It is important to note that this was his only his opinion and did not necessarily represent that of the CCSA, other officials noted later in the week ''

 

15 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Bingo .?

Ahh, work from home 

Could this work?

 

 

16 hours ago, Oldie said:

But "we" are not all ????

No, we are not all, but I think you are in the minority, and as previously said, if don't like move on, easy solution for you.... 

6 hours ago, pmk1000 said:

Dude are you on medication, they need western tourist like flies need insect repellant, in fact if it was that easy they would spray us on our way out. They dont need or want western tourists, India and China combined with the rest of Asia will give them trillions is tourism dollars. 

Sadly the ones you mentioned are not the ones who take on a Thai wife and her family. 

Nor frequent the bars and other venues. 

If Thailand only wants the Indian and Chinese tourists then the bars etc will stay closed for a long time. 

The Chinese tourists want the tour group activity. 

Organised by Chinese in China. 

The Indian tourists are well known for 1 drink 4 straws.

8 hours ago, bangsaenguy said:

Surely you are just trying to wind folks up. No one could possibly be that anal, can they?

There is an element of truth in what he says. The idea of a bar / pub drinking hole is becoming old hat. In the UK there are thousands of pubs and they were all packed out in years gone by, lots are closing down or they are changing. The trend has changed, they are changing into gastro pubs where top quality food is served and / or craft beers. Things started changing when 2 things happened, the first is no smoking, the second is the massive increase of cheap booze being sold in supermarkets. So people changed habits, they now drink with friends round each others houses. The idea of frequently going out to a pub to meet friends and drink is less common nowadays. It is the same all over the world because Thailands 2 big supermarkets were not Thai, they were foreign and they bought the same business model selling tons of cheap booze with them. Thai people cannot afford to go out frequently to bars but they do drink at home, so who do you think the customers will be to fill all the bars in Pattaya. So it might sound like a drastic thing to say but how else do you explain how the people frequenting bar stools are old boys reliving old habits. Times are changing, those who don't see that and change are doomed.

3 hours ago, Redvic said:

What's wrong to old to get it up????

Or he could be a normal guy who is happy with his missus and not sad enough to pay for sex,,, imagine that!