Why aren't governments advising people to boost their immune systems?

[steelepulse]

You would think if governments really cared about their citizens, they would be advising people to boost their immune systems on a daily basis, not telling people to hunker down and wait for a vaccine.

 

All the data shows that those who are not obese, who don't have diabetes, insulin issues etc. have a very slim chance of dying from this.

 

On top of this, governments should be advising people to take Vitamin D, zinc, Vitamin C, and cut down on their sugars.

 

Why aren't governments making getting healthy and boosting immune systems a priority?

 

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

Probably, because like me, they think it's pure quackery.

[thaibeachlovers]

29 minutes ago, steelepulse said:

Why aren't governments making getting healthy and boosting immune systems a priority?

Probably because they know most will ignore them and perhaps because living healthy costs more than many have. Bad food is cheaper than healthy- end of.

[mommysboy]

Number one piece of advice would be to go for a walk everyday.  As for boosting the immune system, that's the stuff of fantasy at the moment, although we can certainly make sure our immune system is at its best by following all the usual health advice.

[Relocated]

3 hours ago, steelepulse said:

You would think if governments really cared about their citizens, they would be advising people to boost their immune systems on a daily basis, not telling people to hunker down and wait for a vaccine.

I'm just amazed whenever I see or hear this kind of statement. Government is an invisible abstract of concept, not a resurrected savior lord who can feed millions of poor souls with 1 oz of bread. For government to initiate a certain decree, the members who formed that organization have to have consent for justifiable cause. 

 

Unless a dictator of totalitarian form of government does anything at his whim.  

[Berkshire]

11 hours ago, steelepulse said:

You would think if governments really cared about their citizens, they would be advising people to boost their immune systems on a daily basis, not telling people to hunker down and wait for a vaccine.

 

All the data shows that those who are not obese, who don't have diabetes, insulin issues etc. have a very slim chance of dying from this.

 

On top of this, governments should be advising people to take Vitamin D, zinc, Vitamin C, and cut down on their sugars.

 

Why aren't governments making getting healthy and boosting immune systems a priority?

You make it sound like the gov is sitting on secret information.  It's been known for some time that healthy living can lead to better health and improved quality of life.  But it's no guarantee that it can protect from COVID.  And it's not easy.  Fat people will not become skinny people just because it "might" protect from COVID.

 

Governments are already taking action for COVID, actions which many are already saying is an intrusion in their lives.  The actions you recommend are even more intrusive and are not proven remedies.  

 

 

[Rancid]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Probably, because like me, they think it's pure quackery.

Hmm, I would disagree. Any rudimentary understanding of our physiology demonstrates the importance of our immune system. Read up some time time about how old Rockefeller took over healthcare and started Big Pharma, nothing conspiracy, just simply about another profit opportunity, and what fortune it still generates. Governments are all onboard with the so called science, hence why they toe the line. Read some pharmacology, they know exactly how these drugs mess people up, but they still push them.

[simon43]

The importance of having a healthy and strong immune system is not just important to ward off Wuhan flu - it's important to help the body fight any type of pathogen that infects it, whether this be a virus or bacteria.

 

Those who are already unhealthy (eg fat, diabetic etc) should be doing all they can to strengthen their immune system, because these underlying conditions weaken the immune system.

 

I note in the western media that suggesting that fat people are more liable to succumb to Wuhan flu is about as welcome as offering to bang Boris's GF... the PC and snowflake generation don't want to hear the truth.  Yet when I look at the photos in the British media of those who have sadly died from this virus, one fact is evident ==> the vast majority of those who have succumbed are obese, and obesity is one cause of a weakened immune system.

 

Rather than risk your health, and to avoid the NHS or your country's health authority forced to care for you when you are taken ill with diseases such as type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, heart problems and strokes, (all of which are generally brought about by a self-imposed, unhealthy lifestyle), I urge you to get off your backsides, start exercising and start eating healthy food to boost your immune systems. 

 

I'm just back from eating my daily salad and 5Km jog ????  Now to do some free weights....

[BritManToo]

42 minutes ago, Rancid said:

Any rudimentary understanding of our physiology demonstrates the importance of our immune system.

Absolutely, the quackery enters the story when you think popping a few vitamin pills will strengthen it.

Most people get all the vitamins they need from the food they eat.

There's a whole quack industry bought on selling supplemental vitamins to people that don't need them.

[steelepulse]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Absolutely, the quackery enters the story when you think popping a few vitamin pills will strengthen it.

Most people get all the vitamins they need from the food they eat.

There's a whole quack industry bought on selling supplemental vitamins to people that don't need them.

There's even more of a quackery industry in big pharma who are pushing doctors to push their pills, not having the doctors telling their patients to live a healthier lifestyle.  There's no money to be made for big pharma in healthy lifestyles.  

 

[248900_1469958220]

17 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Probably, because like me, they think it's pure quackery.

....and with a 'novel' virus that they say yet has no reliable treatments .or a vaccine, a strong immune system of which vitamin D plays a crucial role.....need I go on sunshine? Lets all just hide in our basements till the first EVER vaccine for a coronavirus becomes available. Now THAT could be quackery ! 

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

....and with a 'novel' virus that they say yet has no reliable treatments .or a vaccine, a strong immune system of which vitamin D plays a crucial role.....need I go on sunshine? Lets all just hide in our basements till the first EVER vaccine for a coronavirus becomes available. Now THAT could be quackery ! 

 

Did you read the OP?

"On top of this, governments should be advising people to take Vitamin D, zinc, Vitamin C, and cut down on their sugars."

On ignore for believing vitamin supplements have any worth at all.

 

[248900_1469958220]

Just now, BritManToo said:

 

Did you read the OP?

"On top of this, governments should be advising people to take Vitamin D, zinc, Vitamin C, and cut down on their sugars."

On ignore for believing vitamin supplements have any worth at all.

 

Hey Einstein....You can get vitamin D from the sun, no need for pills.

[mikebike]

I lost my spleen in 1995 and because if that I am more aware than most of my immune system.

 

Do you know what i have had to do for the 25 years to keep my weakened/disabled immune system functioning well?

 

Eat healthy and exersise. No supplements, no crazy workouts, just live a normal life without worry.

 

I've had colds and flus and dengue but not suffered any more than anyone else.

 

I do not have much use for the crowd who believes that you must do more than standard healthy practices to have a strong and healthy immune system.

[Fex Bluse]

I suppose there is a nuanced difference between telling people to boost their immune systems and to not be obese and generally unhealthy. 

 

Anyone with half a brain knows that it's ALWAYS better to be healthy. It's never advantageous to be obese or to have blood pressure or heart issues. 

 

But, eating berries and seeds to 'boost one's immune system' won't do much to fend off a virus, in the same way boosting immunity won't defend against HIV. 

 

That's my take 

[mommysboy]

Unfortunately there are 2 epidemics in the UK (for example): covid19 and obesity.  An easy solution is obviously to lose weight, thus restoring proper immune function.  But you won't win any popularity contests telling people.

[simon43]

But, eating berries and seeds to 'boost one's immune system' won't do much to fend off a virus, in the same way boosting immunity won't defend against HIV. 

 

Having a strong immune system won't stop you from catching a virus or other pathogen.  But it does mean that your body is in a far better shape to 'fight' that pathogen than someone with a compromised immune system.  By following a healthy lifestyle (healthy food, exercise, not smoking or drinking too much etc), you reduce the chance of getting seriously ill or even succumbing to Wuhan flu or any other pathogen. 

 

Of course, it's everybody's own choice (in most cases), whether they want a compromised immune system or not.  As they say, up to you....

[machesta]

Because it does not fit their narrative. 

 

I see there are a lot of people on here totally ignorant about vitamins, herbs and nutritional support.

[Tony125]

They (US GOV) can't even get citizens to wear face masks in stores or in public. A number of security guards  have been shot/killed had arm broken trying to remove people not wearing masks. Also some people don't belive Gov reports especially after WHO said  no need to ban air transportation (in beginning) and CDC saying no need to wear masks and now saying everyone needs a mask in public.

Do you really think that someone who is 50 plus pounds overweight is now going to eat healthy, exersize, take vitamins and lose weiht because of Covid? They would pay lots of money for Vacine but to actively have to work at getting healthy very few will do.

[RichCor]

1 hour ago, simon43 said:

But, eating berries and seeds to 'boost one's immune system' won't do much to fend off a virus, in the same way boosting immunity won't defend against HIV. 

I'm having a bit of a chuckle over this particular quote, as recently the US CDC report noted: Multiple Cruise Ship Outbreaks of Norovirus Associated with Frozen Fruits and Berries. 

 

So the sugary healthier fruit smoothies the passengers gulped down was apparently the vector from which they acquired a norovirus infection.  

[Andyfez]

Why is it down to the government?

Keep drinking that ginseng tea.

[tom in bangkok]

I'll just pop down to the local juice shop and ask for an immuno-booster shake then.

[AAArdvark]

The Philippines is urging people to take vitamin C, even though there is no real definitive evidence that it helps.  The government is also giving free vitamin C to low income people. 

[steelepulse]

The whole point of the post is I was trying to convey is I would rather hear someone telling it's citizens to to what they can so if they get the virus, it won't kill them.  This involves boosting immunity and keeping the old and sick out of the general population.

 

Instead, we get fear mongering and govt's feeding us nonsense about how deadly the virus is. What they didn't say was that the numbers they were giving us were from nursing homes where the average age of the person that passed away, was the same average age or above as someone that passes away with no covid.  Then we come to find out that those who are younger, are very unhealthy, obese, have high blood pressure and diabetes.  All of these things can be lowered by eating a better diet.  

 

 

 

 

[UbonThani]

21 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Probably because they know most will ignore them and perhaps because living healthy costs more than many have. Bad food is cheaper than healthy- end of.

fasting is free

eggs are cheap

smoked oysters r cheap

 

the gov wants people to buy vaccines ans drugs

[BritManToo]

20 minutes ago, Sumarianson said:

Maybe because like you they are uneducated and uninformed!

I've always found the herbal remedy, holistic, supplement crowd rarely finished high school.

It's the modern version of magic, if you really really believe, and take the pills in the correct ritual, it'll work.

Unless you indulge in extreme food fads or have unusual illness, you'll never need any sort of dietary supplement.

Vegans usually end up injecting B12 as their diet is so poor.

 

What were your postgrad studies by the way?

Edited May 21, 2020 by BritManToo

[UbonThani]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

Did you read the OP?

"On top of this, governments should be advising people to take Vitamin D, zinc, Vitamin C, and cut down on their sugars."

On ignore for believing vitamin supplements have any worth at all.

 

cause people often lack zinc and D

 

do some reading

[UbonThani]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

I've always found the herbal remedy, holistic, supplement crowd rarely finished high school.

It's the modern version of magic, if you really really believe, and take the pills in the correct ritual, it'll work.

 

What was your postgrad studies by the way?

zinc and D are backed by science

[UbonThani]

2 minutes ago, Sumarianson said:

Like trying to stop a fart from escaping through underwea

wear 3 pairs

[UbonThani]

taking drugs is modern version of magic

 

fasting is thousands of years old

eating seafood same

 

old school works