1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

The only black people I have heard speak out to date, are those hired by Fox news. Most others know it was said in jest, and really like the man. 

Not at all. Nina Turner, Bernie's spokesperson, spoke quite sharply about how Biden messed this up. Another Biden pork pie during that same "Breakfast Club" interview was that the NAACP was backing him. They have NEVER backed ANY politician including Obama. Don't get me wrong, no one hates Trump more than I do, but Biden is a weak candidate, out of touch with reality (remember the "play music on a record player at night for the kids" statement during one of the primary debates?) and solidly past his expiration date.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The only black people I have heard speak out to date, are those hired by Fox news. Most others know it was said in jest, and really like the man. 

noun

a joke or witty remark; witticism.

a bantering remark; a piece of good-natured ridicule; taunt.

sport or fun: to speak half in jest, half in earnest.

 

One should not joke about race, in jest or otherwise. Either Biden is racist or a complete blithering idiot, or both. Anyone who believes otherwise is a moron.

20 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes, the Dems could have done so much better but, as I said, there really is no contest between the two. Trump is a sick joke and has to go and hopefully that will happen this year.

I assume he will pick a competent VP candidate that will help him win but even if he picked a bridal dressed Dennis Rodman he'd still get my vote.

At least that would probably mean better relations with North Korea

Heard of the electoral college? That means the Trump hating coasts don't get to dictate to the rest of the country.

4 more years.

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Heard of the electoral college? That means the Trump hating coasts don't get to dictate to the rest of the country.

4 more years.

Or maybe not:

'Biden widens lead over Trump in Fox News Poll'

'Trump tells Fox News to 'fire their Fake Pollster' after network reports him 8 points behind Biden' 

 

When Biden becomes president and the Dems take the senate hopefully something can be done with the deeply undemocratic electoral college.

Edited May 25, 20206 yr by Phoenix Rising

31 minutes ago, i84teen said:

noun

a joke or witty remark; witticism.

a bantering remark; a piece of good-natured ridicule; taunt.

sport or fun: to speak half in jest, half in earnest.

 

One should not joke about race, in jest or otherwise. Either Biden is racist or a complete blithering idiot, or both. Anyone who believes otherwise is a moron.

Lots of difference between a one off gag and an entire life of racially charged speech and action. Biden also apologies. 

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Lots of difference between a one off gag and an entire life of racially charged speech and action. Biden also apologies. 

Who u think you fooling ....no one !

A "one off" racist remark is a gag! Maybe in your deluded world.  And compared to who is this person with "an entire life of racially charged speech and action"--who exactly would this be?

U make little or no sense with your lame argument but too stubborn to admit it. Lol. eric, u need to get a grip.

I wonder if howard cosell apologized.

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The only black people I have heard speak out to date, are those hired by Fox news. Most others know it was said in jest, and really like the man. 

No, that's not true. And what, black liberals hired by Fox don't matter anyway? Like Marc Lamont Hill, VERY far left:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/marc-lamont-hill-biden-black-voters

 

And the founder of BET... he's paid by Fox News?

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/499297-bet-co-founder-rips-arrogant-biden-he-should-apologize-to-every-black-person

 

How about P. Diddy? Is he now an agent of Fox News? Or does Joe Biden get to tell him what skin color he is?

 

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/diddy-reiterates-that-the-black-vote-aint-free-in-response-to-joe-biden-news.111010.html

 

According to Biden's white supremacist views, these conservative blacks aren't really black and don't count. And by extension, I suppose the other blacks in the article below aren't really black and thus don't count. That is the clear insinuation you gave, and thus a rational may consider whether you.... let's leave that there.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499214-african-american-figures-slam-biden-on-you-aint-black-comments

 

And remember, Joe Biden says there were no mainstream black people that were clean, articulate and bright before Barack Obama. But no, he's not a racist. But what else can we expect from the party of slavery and the KKK?

Edited May 25, 20206 yr by Crazy Alex

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Lots of difference between a one off gag and an entire life of racially charged speech and action. Biden also apologies. 

It wasn't a one off gag. Joe Biden says there were no mainstream black people who were clean, articulate and bright before Barack Obama. That's pure racism.

 

And what's this "poor kids are just as smart as white kids" if not a Freudian slip?

 

No, one off gag won't cut it. Nor will trying to deflect and babble about Donald Trump.

4 hours ago, i84teen said:

noun

a joke or witty remark; witticism.

a bantering remark; a piece of good-natured ridicule; taunt.

sport or fun: to speak half in jest, half in earnest.

 

One should not joke about race, in jest or otherwise. Either Biden is racist or a complete blithering idiot, or both. Anyone who believes otherwise is a moron.

Can you imagine if a Republican had said such a thing? Or how about if I were to say, "you know, black people are dirty, inarticulate and not very bright!" But then I say, "hey, I was just joking! Hahahaha!!!!" Yeah, that would be forgiven.

 

And of course, when Biden said Barack Obama was the first mainstream black to be clean, articulate and bright, what he was also saying is that prior to Obama, blacks were mostly dirty, inarticulate and not very bright. And his love letters to racist Democrat senators thanking them for opposing school integration makes it clear Biden has been a racist for many decades.

5 hours ago, J Town said:

Not at all. Nina Turner, Bernie's spokesperson, spoke quite sharply about how Biden messed this up. Another Biden pork pie during that same "Breakfast Club" interview was that the NAACP was backing him. They have NEVER backed ANY politician including Obama. Don't get me wrong, no one hates Trump more than I do, but Biden is a weak candidate, out of touch with reality (remember the "play music on a record player at night for the kids" statement during one of the primary debates?) and solidly past his expiration date.

No, that's not true. She offered weak spin and damage control. That is NOT speaking "sharply". But at least you're honest enough to point out Biden's whopper about the NAACP endorsing him. Biden figures black people are dumb and will just go along with whatever he says about them.

I notice that VP Biden's comment has brought 'Blexit' and 'Diamond & Silk' to the fore, once Democrats now Conservatives so I understand, changed their view a couple/three years ago.

16 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

I notice that VP Biden's comment has brought 'Blexit' and 'Diamond & Silk' to the fore, once Democrats now Conservatives so I understand, changed their view a couple/three years ago.

Who can blame blacks? Democrats have been making the same promises to black people for decades. Now they're treated like chumps. Look at Biden: he thinks he can say whatever he wants about black people and they'll just go along with him.

 

I suspect many now realize that when Democrats all say they want to give free healthcare to illegal aliens, blacks will be having to pay for that also. And in reality, Democrats have moved illegal aliens to a higher position on the totem pole than blacks.

keep talking. No one's listening

50 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

keep talking. No one's listening

Sir, I would like to encourage you to debate the issue instead of.... well, whatever it is you're doing.

An off topic post and a reply has been removed. 

14 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Or maybe not:

'Biden widens lead over Trump in Fox News Poll'

'Trump tells Fox News to 'fire their Fake Pollster' after network reports him 8 points behind Biden' 

 

When Biden becomes president and the Dems take the senate hopefully something can be done with the deeply undemocratic electoral college.

NO chance! It's in the constitution and no way the mid states will vote to allow the coasts to rule forever.

10 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Who can blame blacks? Democrats have been making the same promises to black people for decades. Now they're treated like chumps. Look at Biden: he thinks he can say whatever he wants about black people and they'll just go along with him.

 

I suspect many now realize that when Democrats all say they want to give free healthcare to illegal aliens, blacks will be having to pay for that also. And in reality, Democrats have moved illegal aliens to a higher position on the totem pole than blacks.

The Democrats sense that blacks may begin to make the party compete for their vote in the not too distant future so the illegals represent a new permanent underclass of voters for the Democrats to cultivate

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

NO chance! It's in the constitution and no way the mid states will vote to allow the coasts to rule forever.

People are DREAMING. All US adults will be dead and gone before Democrats can sucker 2/3rds of states and get a 2/3rds vote in the House and Senate to amend the Constitution.

 

But then again, we are talking about people who think Biden's got it made in November.

7 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Really? Tell me about some of his accomplishments.

I know a few of Joe’s accomplishments.

• plagiarized Neil Kinnock speech

• plagerized Robert Kennedy speeck

• claimed he graduated at the top of his class in law school.  He graduated near the bottom.

9 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

I know a few of Joe’s accomplishments.

• plagiarized Neil Kinnock speech

• plagerized Robert Kennedy speeck

• claimed he graduated at the top of his class in law school.  He graduated near the bottom.

"After Biden withdrew from the race, it came to light that he had indeed correctly credited Kinnock on other occasions. However, in the Iowa speech that was recorded and distributed to reporters (with a parallel video of Kinnock) by aides to Michael Dukakis, the eventual nominee, he failed to do so". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_1988_presidential_campaign

 

BTW this was all in 1987 so not exactly current character stuff!

20 minutes ago, Trillian said:

"After Biden withdrew from the race, it came to light that he had indeed correctly credited Kinnock on other occasions. However, in the Iowa speech that was recorded and distributed to reporters (with a parallel video of Kinnock) by aides to Michael Dukakis, the eventual nominee, he failed to do so". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_1988_presidential_campaign

 

BTW this was all in 1987 so not exactly current character stuff!

Biden thinks he knows better who's black and who's not. Biden bragged about extorting Ukraine. Biden says the NAACP has endorsed him every time he's run. They say he's full of <deleted>.

 

Oh and Biden still has no accomplishments.

 

Oh and I almost forgot: Biden says Obama was the first mainstream black man to be bright, clean and articulate. People who aren't white supremacists agree.

Edited May 25, 20206 yr by Crazy Alex

5 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Really? Tell me about some of his accomplishments.

He's not Donald Trump and that's more than enough.

16 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

No, that's not true. And what, black liberals hired by Fox don't matter anyway? Like Marc Lamont Hill, VERY far left:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/marc-lamont-hill-biden-black-voters

 

And the founder of BET... he's paid by Fox News?

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/499297-bet-co-founder-rips-arrogant-biden-he-should-apologize-to-every-black-person

 

How about P. Diddy? Is he now an agent of Fox News? Or does Joe Biden get to tell him what skin color he is?

 

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/diddy-reiterates-that-the-black-vote-aint-free-in-response-to-joe-biden-news.111010.html

 

According to Biden's white supremacist views, these conservative blacks aren't really black and don't count. And by extension, I suppose the other blacks in the article below aren't really black and thus don't count. That is the clear insinuation you gave, and thus a rational may consider whether you.... let's leave that there.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499214-african-american-figures-slam-biden-on-you-aint-black-comments

 

And remember, Joe Biden says there were no mainstream black people that were clean, articulate and bright before Barack Obama. But no, he's not a racist. But what else can we expect from the party of slavery and the KKK?

Quite frankly, I would have to say you disqualified yourself from the discussion of white supremacist views, when you threw your hat into the Trump circus. One of the hallmarks of both Trump and his supporters, is to accuse "the other" of being and doing the very thing he does himself. It is called deflection, on a scale not seen since WWII. 

6 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

He's not Donald Trump and that's more than enough.

That's basically it.

He could be a dill pickle and still be more desirable as president than 45.

45 fans will never get that. Most Americans do.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/25/can-we-stop-pretending-trump-is-fit-be-president/

 

Quote

 

Can we stop pretending Trump is fit to be president?

 

At various times over the past three and a half years, many of us have asked what would happen if President Trump truly went over the edge or if his behavior became so frightening that his unfitness for the most powerful position on Earth could no longer be denied.

 

But the human capacity for denial is apparently almost infinite. Let’s review what our president has been up to in the past few days:

 

 

Edited May 26, 20206 yr by Jingthing

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Quite frankly, I would have to say you disqualified yourself from the discussion of white supremacist views, when you threw your hat into the Trump circus. One of the hallmarks of both Trump and his supporters, is to accuse "the other" of being and doing the very thing he does himself. It is called deflection, on a scale not seen since WWII. 

Actually the textbook definition of gaslighting.

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He could be a dill pickle and still be more desirable as president than 45.

45 fans will never get that. Most Americans do.

Careful - the same was said about Hillary. This ain't over by a long shot.

18 minutes ago, J Town said:

Careful - the same was said about Hillary. This ain't over by a long shot.

Not relevant. We didn't know how 45 would actually behave as president then. Many were deluded to hope he would be humbled by the awesomeness of the office and grow more mature. Now we know that will never happen.

 

However I agree with you that it's not helpful to write him off. He's very crafty and very corrupt.

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not relevant. We didn't know how 45 would actually behave as president then. Many were deluded to hope he would be humbled by the awesomeness of the office and grow more mature. Now we know that will never happen.

 

However I agree with you that it's not helpful to write him off. He's very crafty and very corrupt.

Very true. Not particularly smart, but very crafty, and slick. Teflon like. He would have only been able to be humbled by the office, if he had a modicum of humility, to begin with. And he would have only been able to grow more mature, if he had the emotional development required for that, and not a regressive, bullying, hedonistic, immature and juvenile nature. 

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Not relevant. We didn't know how 45 would actually behave as president then. Many were deluded to hope he would be humbled by the awesomeness of the office and grow more mature. Now we know that will never happen.

 

However I agree with you that it's not helpful to write him off. He's very crafty and very corrupt.

Of course, you have another problem. Joe Biden. Doesn't even know what planet he's on. Can't draw a crowd.

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Quite frankly, I would have to say you disqualified yourself from the discussion of white supremacist views, when you threw your hat into the Trump circus. One of the hallmarks of both Trump and his supporters, is to accuse "the other" of being and doing the very thing he does himself. It is called deflection, on a scale not seen since WWII. 

Old liberal trick. Rather than confront the facts, simply declare the other person disqualified. Sorry, that's a lazy, ineffective approach. The topic is Joe Biden. You can't rebut the facts I present. Clearly, your surrender method is questionable, but I accept your surrender nonetheless.