"We won't go home, we can't afford that" - bus fares almost double because of social distancing regulations

 

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Many Thais took to social media after a man posted about his journey on a bus from Pattaya to Nong Khai in the north east.

 

He said that his normal fare was 500 baht but he had been charged 910 baht because spaces had to be left empty on the seats. 

 

He said that this was not a big deal for him but it would be problematic for many others and he called on the government to do something.

 

Comment was rife with plenty of Netizens complaining about the government's new rules.

 

Many said they just wouldn't go back to their hometowns at those prices while others shared similar experiences.

 

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The same is going to happen if airlines are going to leave the middle seat empty.  The real question is if the rate of infection is so low why this so called social distancing?  The BTS doesn’t require it and markets don’t enforce it.  The government speaks with a forked tongue.  This <deleted> is all about power and nothing to do with keeping people safe.

3 minutes ago, lujanit said:

The BTS doesn’t require it

The largest joke. Marks on the platform to keep people apart but jammed into the train carriages like sardines.

4 minutes ago, lujanit said:

The same is going to happen if airlines are going to leave the middle seat empty.  The real question is if the rate of infection is so low why this so called social distancing?  The BTS doesn’t require it and markets don’t enforce it.  The government speaks with a forked tongue.  This <deleted> is all about power and nothing to do with keeping people safe.

so you would want Thailand to have the 30000 dead like the UK prior to social distancing? 

The irony is the bus is probably half empty normally anyway

5 minutes ago, Bluetongue said:

The irony is the bus is probably half empty normally anyway

Every bus I've been on has been full. Doubtless others will chime in with different experiences.

13 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

so you would want Thailand to have the 30000 dead like the UK prior to social distancing? 

Thousands dead here too, don't forget that

The main difference is the care homes

So if three people sit on a bench you will die but two is OK?

Got a strong feeling most of this is nonsense.

18 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

The largest joke. Marks on the platform to keep people apart but jammed into the train carriages like sardines.

The BTS I travelled on yesterday had big crosses on every other seat and were not occupied. It was a pretty new carriage, didn't even have station maps on the walls, so maybe more seat crosses are on the way?

2 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

Thousands dead here too, don't forget that

The main difference is the care homes

hard to forget something that never occurred and what care did these UK homes provide?

most buses from airports have  stopped. so ok you can get a taxi. but even then the taxi fares 

are now three or four hundred Baht more ?

If it is true that bus companies have increased their fares due to Government social distancing rules, then the government should be subsidising the fares.

Doubling of bus fares is wrong and affects the poorer people most.

14 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

so you would want Thailand to have the 30000 dead like the UK prior to social distancing? 

A statement that is so utterly simplistic, one does not even know where to start, to analyze it. First of all, in general Thais eat a far healthier diet than the majority of those in the UK, or the US, who eat a diet that is downright scary, from a nutritional point of view. Thais eat far more fresh fruits and vegetables, get alot more Vitamin D from the sunshine, have way better attitudes, and generally have far less stress in their lives. So, you are comparing apples with longans.

 

Social distancing is only part of the equation, as proven in South Korea. Immunity is a far more important element, than social distancing, which only means something if you are highly vulnerable to begin with. Based on the fact that we had millions of tourists here in December, January, and part of February, many of whom were likely infected with Covid, the Thai people appear to have a far greater natural immunity to Covid, than many others. It is likely huge numbers were infected, and never became symptomatic, which in my mind, is very reassuring! 

Just now, from the home of CC said:

hard to forget something that never occurred and what care did these UK homes provide?

Remember, don't Thai to me

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

A statement that is so utterly simplistic, one does not even know where to start, to analyze it. First of all, in general Thais eat a far healthier diet than the majority of those in the UK, or the US, who eat a diet that is downright scary, from a nutritional point of view. Thais eat far more fresh fruits and vegetables, get alot more Vitamin D from the sunshine, have way better attitudes, and generally have far less stress in their lives. So, you are comparing apples with longans.

 

Social distancing is only part of the equation, as proven in South Korea. Immunity is a far more important element, than social distancing, which only means something if you are highly vulnerable to begin with. Based on the fact that we had millions of tourists here in December, January, and part of February, many of whom were likely infected with Covid, the Thai people appear to have a far greater natural immunity to Covid, than many others. It is likely huge numbers were infected, and never became symptomatic, which in my mind, is very reassuring! 

I'm not convinced Thai's diets are great

Fruit and veg dripping in pesticides + not many Thais spend enough time in the sun to get their dose of Vitamin D

Dark skin requires twice as long as white skin

 

The Thai infection/death figs are BS in my opinion

 

I can believe the current figs as the country has locked it's borders for almost two months.

Before that there were a lot of deaths that would have been put down to pneumonia/lung infection

Edited May 26, 20206 yr by Canuck1966

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

A statement that is so utterly simplistic, one does not even know where to start, to analyze it. First of all, in general Thais eat a far healthier diet than the majority of those in the UK, or the US, who eat a diet that is downright scary, from a nutritional point of view. Thais eat far more fresh fruits and vegetables, get alot more Vitamin D from the sunshine, have way better attitudes, and generally have far less stress in their lives. So, you are comparing apples with longans.

 

Social distancing is only part of the equation, as proven in South Korea. Immunity is a far more important element, than social distancing, which only means something if you are highly vulnerable to begin with. Based on the fact that we had millions of tourists here in December, January, and part of February, many of whom were likely infected with Covid, the Thai people appear to have a far greater natural immunity to Covid, than many others. It is likely huge numbers were infected, and never became symptomatic, which in my mind, is very reassuring! 

First of all the Thai diet is full of sugar, salt and fat, so no, as their huge diabetes numbers show, their diet is for the most part poor (though changing slowly). Vitamin D production from people of darker skin is a lot slower than Caucasian skin, and with many folks not working in the direct sun this is most not likely true. I'm supplementing my wife's diet with it for she works at our shop in the mall so she's not producing much for sure. As far as stress, I would think scrambling daily to provide food for the family would be plenty stressful though they're definitely not the big complainers about life like Westerners. 'Natural Immunity?' lol that's a new one! What is more than likely is that with no aversion to wearing a mask, community transmission has been kept down unlike those many other countries that can't seem to figure this out. I do agree, like most other countries, that millions have this virus but Thais certainly don't have ' a natural immunity'.. 

4 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

I'm not convinced Thai's diets are great

Fruit and veg dripping in pesticides + not many Thais spend enough time in the sun to get their dose of Vitamin D

Dark skin requires twice as long as white skin

 

The Thai infection/death figs are BS in my opinion

 

I can believe the current figs as the country has locked it's borders for almost two months.

Before that there were a lot of deaths that would have been put down to pneumonia/lung infection

I believe them. It is very hard to hide massive numbers of corpses, and very hard to keep family members, who ALL have facebook and instagram accounts, from posting about massive numbers of dead loved ones. You just cannot hide that anymore. Not these days. Be paranoid. Let fear destroy your life. That is not the way I choose to live my life.

 

I have a friend who is a surgical nurse in a local hospital. She told me they have done thousands of tests for Covid, and not one has turned up positive. Not one. And she is a very reliable source. 

 

And as far as the diet and the food goes, nobody can convince me that the food here is more adulterated than the food back in the US, which is dreadful. Sure, you can eat very well back there, if you so choose to. But, the masses? Most people I know back there, eat horrendous diets. And in the UK? It is ten times worse. 

29 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

A statement that is so utterly simplistic, one does not even know where to start, to analyze it. First of all, in general Thais eat a far healthier diet than the majority of those in the UK, or the US, who eat a diet that is downright scary, from a nutritional point of view. Thais eat far more fresh fruits and vegetables, get alot more Vitamin D from the sunshine, have way better attitudes, and generally have far less stress in their lives. So, you are comparing apples with longans.

 

Social distancing is only part of the equation, as proven in South Korea. Immunity is a far more important element, than social distancing, which only means something if you are highly vulnerable to begin with. Based on the fact that we had millions of tourists here in December, January, and part of February, many of whom were likely infected with Covid, the Thai people appear to have a far greater natural immunity to Covid, than many others. It is likely huge numbers were infected, and never became symptomatic, which in my mind, is very reassuring! 

Nobody is immune to any corona virus.

I thought intra-provincial travel was still restricted??

52 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Every bus I've been on has been full. Doubtless others will chime in with different experiences.

Well none have so far. Have never been on a long distance bus here. But I do often see them passing through and they are often not very full. But I live a bit off the beaten track, the buses I see do not emanate from Bangkok.

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

The largest joke. Marks on the platform to keep people apart but jammed into the train

People just don't care. They wear the masks, wash their hands, use the gel. But the social distancing for some reason, they just ignore it. They got to use the train, they got to get in the store. Maybe in their minds they think the rest will be enough.

 

Mega Bangna last Sunday was an absolute zoo. Signs everywhere saying to keep 2m apart. Marks on the ground showing how far apart to queue. Totally ignored.

 

On a few occasions, I heard loud Thai being spoken like someone was talking in my ear. I look over my shoulder, they're practically on my rear end talking to their friends. I'm like, uh, excuse me? I motion for them to back off, and they nervously scurry away.

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

The largest joke. Marks on the platform to keep people apart but jammed into the train carriages like sardines.

Yes, but there is extra virgin olive oil for the sardines now.

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

So if three people sit on a bench you will die but two is OK?

Got a strong feeling most of this is nonsense.

If you not bend over that middle seat you are ok! What if you are really fat? You take one and half seat already! Good in that seat have fart holes ! In middle they stuck that whit sticker so all know dont sit here!

1 hour ago, from the home of CC said:

so you would want Thailand to have the 30000 dead like the UK prior to social distancing? 

Nobody want´s that. This is about consistency. When you compare airlines and buses to BTS, the rules are different. How is that going to be seen and understood by the public and citizens? That´s the thing that has to be fixed. It´s not about that the protective measures is wrong. It´s about that they are no consistent. 

1 hour ago, from the home of CC said:

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

Thousands dead here too, don't forget that

The main difference is the care homes

hard to forget something that never occurred and what care did these UK homes provide?

The Thais who died early-on, infected by the Wuhan-carriers let in in February, were called "pneumonia" deaths - to cover for the CCP.  Only those infected from Europeans were labeled "covid" deaths, from the "dirty farangs" (health minister's words, likely written by the CCP for him).

I don't know the care-homes story in the UK, but was horrible in the USA:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus

Also, what NY and Pennsylvania did - forcing those facilities to accept known covid-positive patients, which led to mass-fatalities. 

There are 2 groups who are vulnerable - diabetic/overweight (other serious pre-existing illnesses) and the very old.  They are the only ones who need protection / distancing / etc. 

1 hour ago, from the home of CC said:

so you would want Thailand to have the 30000 dead like the UK prior to social distancing? 

if  the  country could  still function normally then thats the price.

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

The Thai infection/death figs are BS in my opinion

Given no large-scale testing, almost ALL countries have bull-figures.   NONE are accounting for the massive proportion of infected who never had symptoms. 

 

The hospitals are not overwhelmed here, which means there was no wave of those with severe-symptoms - likely owing to a generally less-overweight and younger (median-age) population than Italy, for instance.

36 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

I motion for them to back off, and they nervously scurry away.

Just start coughing violently,  funny by me out here in the country I see shop owners with no mask on and when I approach up goes the mask.

2 minutes ago, bodga said:

Just start coughing violently,  funny by me out here in the country I see shop owners with no mask on and when I approach up goes the mask.

That's really thoughtful of them, making sure they don't infect you.

 

1 hour ago, Traubert said:

Nobody is immune to any corona virus.

Was watching one epidemiologist, Professor Sunetra Gupta, from oxford last night who believes there are. She thinks the antibody tests may be low because there are people who fought off the virus without significant antibody response. Her interview from May 21 is on you tube.