British minister says 'move on' from rage over PM adviser Cummings' road trip

[7by7]

19 hours ago, evadgib said:

Likewise plod have surely breached whatever passes as confidentiality these days in allowing something that names a suspect into the public domain. Is it any wonder that there's a rugby scrum sat permanently outside his house, c/w mobile cinema & paid hecklers; and that his elderly parents home up North is being similarly door-stepped live on Sky news?

 

Has MSM learned nothing from the deaths of Caroline Flack, Carl Sargent or Princess Diana?

 

As Cummings himself admitted in his press conference that he had made the trip to Barnard Castle, thus putting himself into the public domain, the police broke no laws, regulations, rules nor guidance in naming him.

 

The media scrum outside his house started well before Durham police named him. It would be long gone had Cummings admitted his breach of the rules he, himself, had a hand in writing when his breach was first reported.

 

Bringing those you name in your final paragraph into this in order to defend Cummings only shows how desperate you are. There are no similarities; Cummings brought this upon himself

[7by7]

18 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

No he did not have any symptoms. He self isolated on his return just in case he had it. Given how prevalent it was in Westminster.

Sounds very sensible to me. Much more sensible than driving 250 miles in a car with someone who was showing symptoms.  

Certainly more sensible than driving a 60 mile round trip with your 4 year old son in the car because you thought your eyesight might make it unsafe for you to drive!

[7by7]

18 hours ago, Loiner said:

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Dominic is far too busy getting us past the post on a No Deal Brexit

 

17 hours ago, Loiner said:

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Uncle Dom is working his political magic.

 

17 hours ago, Loiner said:

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He’ll carry on with reform of the civil service and BBC next.

 

I see you are now admitting the unelected Cummings is the boss and Johnson is his puppet.

 

Fortunately for democracy in this country, more and more Tory MPs are realising the same thing. Expect a backbench revolt to oust the puppet master by removing the puppet in the near future. They'll let them finish the EU negotiations first, so early next year is my bet.

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[7by7]

10 hours ago, luckyluke said:

11 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

The common sensers

Common sense is a very relative concept, and thus in many ways interpretable. 

If the people with power has a different opinion of what common sense is than yourself have, it may create repercussions. 

 Cummings certainly has a different opinion to most people. As shown in his press conference; which was littered with the phrase "Most people may think that, I don't" and similar.

[Airbagwill]

"move on" and "moving forward" are expressions used by politicians when they either can't do anything or don't know what to do.

[nausea]

The paralells are too obvious to mention. 

[metisdead]

A post using a trolling representation of the PM Adviser Cummings' name and a reply has been removed. 

[evadgib]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Bringing those you name in your final paragraph into this in order to defend Cummings only shows how desperate you are. There are no similarities; Cummings brought this upon himself

The only thing I'm desperate for is pole position on your iggy list ????

Edited May 29, 2020 by evadgib

[jimmyswale]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

Alastair Campbell ‘mocks’ military veterans with ‘disgusting’ social media video

 

'Offensive to veterans': Help For Heroes slams ex-Labour spin chief Alastair Campbell for donning war medals in video mocking the Dominic Cummings row

 

HTH. Please let me know if you need more.

Campbell is a loathsome creature along with his ex-boss and should have been locked up years ago. But what have those links top do with the topic in question the equally loathsome Cumming's even though so far he hasn't managed to do as much damage as that pair did. Arguably he opened the floodgates of political advisers being more important than mere elected politicians. Now moving on where is Johnson's world beating track and trace system that he promised by Monday knocked up at great cost by one of Cumming's relatives when there is an odd the peg one available from Apple/Google ?

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

It would be long gone had Cummings admitted his breach of the rules he, himself, had a hand in writing when his breach was first reported.

Cummings doesn't make the rules. The science and medical advisors make recommendations, the government use the recommendations to devise the rules, and the political advisors (e.g. Cummings) simply help with the communication of those rules. People need to stop insinuating that Cummings broke 'his own' rules. 

[Airbagwill]

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Cummings doesn't make the rules. The science and medical advisors make recommendations, the government use the recommendations to devise the rules, and the political advisors (e.g. Cummings) simply help with the communication of those rules. People need to stop insinuating that Cummings broke 'his own' rules. 

100% wrong.

the advisors "advise", Cummings makes the rules up for Boris - that' why they call the people he interfere with the "legislative"

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

 

I see you are now admitting the unelected Cummings is the boss and Johnson is his puppet.

 

Fortunately for democracy in this country, more and more Tory MPs are realising the same thing. Expect a backbench revolt to oust the puppet master by removing the puppet in the near future. They'll let them finish the EU negotiations first, so early next year is my bet.

You think they'll oust a PM who gave them the biggest Tory victory margin in almost a century? Not a chance! 

[CG1 Blue]

4 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

100% wrong.

the advisors "advise", Cummings makes the rules up for Boris - that' why they call the people he interfere with the "legislative"

Can you show me some hard evidence that Cummings makes the rules up for Boris? 

[Bruntoid]

18 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

You think they'll oust a PM who gave them the biggest Tory victory margin in almost a century? Not a chance! 

He gave them nothing - Corbyn did ! 
 

Johnson will be slaughtered by Starmer at every turn (the tortures already started) so the Tory head honchos will already be lining up the clowns successor before it really matters! Right now with the problems being stored up for the U.K. in the coming year Johnson is simply a useful idiot! 

[Bruntoid]

22 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Can you show me some hard evidence that Cummings makes the rules up for Boris? 

???????????? Given he hasn’t the intelligence he was born with, dodges every TV programme where they use big words and is unable to work out how to use a comb or dress himself, who do you think makes them up for him if not his ‘special advisor’ ?  

Edited May 29, 2020 by Bruntoid

[jimmyswale]

21 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Can you show me some hard evidence that Cummings makes the rules up for Boris? 

Can we just move on from evidence based policy discussions I think folk have quite enough of 'experts' .

[7by7]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

The only thing I'm desperate for is pole position on your iggy list ????

Of course you are; that way I wont see the 'facts' you post and show them up for the pony they are.

 

But as I've told you every time you've demanded I place you on ignore; aint going to happen.

[7by7]

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

5 hours ago, 7by7 said:

It would be long gone had Cummings admitted his breach of the rules he, himself, had a hand in writing when his breach was first reported.

Cummings doesn't make the rules. The science and medical advisors make recommendations, the government use the recommendations to devise the rules, and the political advisors (e.g. Cummings) simply help with the communication of those rules. People need to stop insinuating that Cummings broke 'his own' rules. 

 Didn't say he did write the rules, as you can see I said he had a hand in writing them.

 

If you believe that, despite regular attendances at SAGE meetings and his role as chief advisor to (or boss of) the Prime Minister he had no input then you are extremely naïve.

 

That he did have such input has been reported many times all over the press and media and never denied by Downing Street. Which seems very strange if such reports are untrue; especially given the lies they told on his behalf over his trips to Durham and Barnard Castle.

[7by7]

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

You think they'll oust a PM who gave them the biggest Tory victory margin in almost a century? Not a chance! 

 

You should check facts.

 

Tory majorities larger than 80 since 1920 

• 1924, 210;
• 1959, 100;
• 1983, 144;
• 1987, 102 

(source)

 

Those last two were when Thatcher was leader. Despite a drop in support from 1983, she still had a massive majority in 1987. Didn't stop the party ditching her mid term when they thought she was becoming a liability.

 

Love her or loathe her, Thatcher had more ability in her little finger than Johnson has in his whole body. He's a one trick pony and the party know that and will ditch him as soon as he's performed his trick.

 

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[evadgib]

31 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Of course you are; that way I wont see the 'facts' you post and show them up for the pony they are.

 

But as I've told you every time you've demanded I place you on ignore; aint going to happen.

It's pretty clear that you lack the strength of character to adhere to an iggy list, and that it's made worse when your intended targets completely blank your relentless baiting as I have done since you came out as a bubbler several days ago.

 

If this post, or me, are not around tomorrow everyone will know why...  

 

Goodnight 49

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[CG1 Blue]

3 hours ago, Bruntoid said:

???????????? Given he hasn’t the intelligence he was born with, dodges every TV programme where they use big words and is unable to work out how to use a comb or dress himself, who do you think makes them up for him if not his ‘special advisor’ ?  

So, no hard evidence then. 

[Loiner]

6 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

 

I see you are now admitting the unelected Cummings is the boss and Johnson is his puppet.

 

Fortunately for democracy in this country, more and more Tory MPs are realising the same thing. Expect a backbench revolt to oust the puppet master by removing the puppet in the near future. They'll let them finish the EU negotiations first, so early next year is my bet.

Don't see how I admit anything. Dom's busy doing the bidding of the PM and the majority of the electorate who put Boris there. Sorry your leftist witch hunt loves to hate Dom, but that's all it is, media vilification of the man who helped 17.4 Million others prove the metropolitans wrong.

 

Dontcha just love it when the left are not getting there own way. Protest as much as you like on twatter or talking heads on the Beeb, Bexit is happening. Why does TV not run a new Brexit thread everyday anymore? There's loads to comment on the collapse of the EU, Barnier, Verhofstadt, Varadker and UK Remainers.

 

Expect the biggest and best party this New Year. When we are free at last.

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

You should check facts.

 

Tory majorities larger than 80 since 1920 

• 1924, 210;
• 1959, 100;
• 1983, 144;
• 1987, 102 

(source)

 

Those last two were when Thatcher was leader. Despite a drop in support from 1983, she still had a massive majority in 1987. Didn't stop the party ditching her mid term when they thought she was becoming a liability.

 

Love her or loathe her, Thatcher had more ability in her little finger than Johnson has in his whole body. He's a one trick pony and the party know that and will ditch him as soon as he's performed his trick.

 

My mistake. What I meant was that he inflicted the worst defeat on Labour in terms of the low number of Labour seats. The famous breaking of the Labour 'red wall' etc. 

[kingdong]

6 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

My mistake. What I meant was that he inflicted the worst defeat on Labour in terms of the low number of Labour seats. The famous breaking of the Labour 'red wall' etc. 

I don,t know if he inflicted the worst defeat on labour,they did that themselves with their choice of leader and scorn and contempt for the working class.

[7by7]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

It's pretty clear that you lack the strength of character to adhere to an iggy list, and that it's made worse when your intended targets completely blank your relentless baiting as I have done since you came out as a bubbler several days ago.

 

If this post, or me, are not around tomorrow everyone will know why...  

 

Goodnight 49

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 "Strength of character to adhere to an iggy list!" What a load of ballocks.

 

If strength of character is required at all in an internet forum (and it isn't) then it would be needed to read what people are saying about one! If putting people on ignore shows anything, it's a weakness of character.

 

As for demanding that others put you on ignore; pathetic.

 

If you completely blank my "relentless baiting," why do you respond with similar tantrums to the above every time?

 

No idea what "since you came out as a bubbler" means. 

[7by7]

56 minutes ago, Loiner said:

<snip>Dom's busy doing the bidding of the PM and the majority of the electorate who put Boris there.

The majority of the electorate did not put Johnson anywhere.

 

For starters only 67.3% of the electorate actually voted.

 

It's the people who did vote who are important here, though; not those who didn't.

 

Of those who did vote, 43.6% voted Conservative. 

 

In what school of maths is 43.6% a majority?

[7by7]

58 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

My mistake. What I meant was that he inflicted the worst defeat on Labour in terms of the low number of Labour seats. The famous breaking of the Labour 'red wall' etc. 

Nice save.

 

49 minutes ago, kingdong said:

I don,t know if he inflicted the worst defeat on labour,they did that themselves with their choice of leader and scorn and contempt for the working class.

 Indeed, Corbyn and Momentum did more to lose the election than Johnson and the Tories did to win it.

 

As shown by the change in the share of the vote:

• Tories up 1.2 percentage points from 42.4% to 43.6%
• Labour down 7.9 percentage points from 40.0% to 32.1%.

But the point is moot. As I said before, Johnson is a one trick pony and once he's performed that trick the party will get rid of him. Just as they did Thatcher when they believed she was becoming a liability who would lose them the next election. 

[kingdong]

7 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Nice save.

 

 Indeed, Corbyn and Momentum did more to lose the election than Johnson and the Tories did to win it.

 

As shown by the change in the share of the vote:

• Tories up 1.2 percentage points from 42.4% to 43.6%
• Labour down 7.9 percentage points from 40.0% to 32.1%.

But the point is moot. As I said before, Johnson is a one trick pony and once he's performed that trick the party will get rid of him. Just as they did Thatcher when they believed she was becoming a liability who would lose them the next election. 

As long as his one trick is getting us out of the eu,that,'ll do me.

[Loiner]

14 hours ago, 7by7 said:

The majority of the electorate did not put Johnson anywhere.

 

For starters only 67.3% of the electorate actually voted.

 

It's the people who did vote who are important here, though; not those who didn't.

 

Of those who did vote, 43.6% voted Conservative. 

 

In what school of maths is 43.6% a majority?

Well it wasn't the minority who put Johnson into No.10 was it? Wait, no, Boris definitely won with a landslide. 
 

You keep twisting your percentages around to find one you like. Then see if Boris moves out and your chosen loser is invited to take up residence. Nope, it's still the coalition of leftist Remainer metropolitan elite losers, who are not in charge anymore.

[nausea]

Personally, I don't give a f#$k living in Thailand, but if any police stopped me in the UK for breaking lock down, I'd tell them to FO, and talk to Boris. Astounding  absolutely astounding, like how many guys have been totally dotting is and crossing ts. My sister for one, with our 90 year old father. Unbelievable. It totally undermines the whole concept. No, I won't move on until this w@#ker is removed from public life.

Edited May 30, 2020 by nausea