8 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

What do "White people get by default" in the USA .

White Females did indeed have to fight to vote .

My point was that if there were similar protests predominantly by White people, the police reaction would be the same 

  You seem to be suggesting that White people are allowed to riot in the USA

...and you seem to be daft as a bucket full of sand!

....would ...maybe...if...

There are no white people riots, because white people don't need to riot!

 

And for the women- vote: care to explain, who was oppressing these white women?

Naaaaaaaaaaah.....

 

 

 

Wow...some really nice people out here today!

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Some might. 

Mine didn't. 

I've never met a white person that mentioned theirs did. 

In any case black parents really need to because its a fact that black people are stopped more often, searched more often, and murdered more often by the police. 

 

That is true because police hassle Black folks  more than they do White folks. It is also true they are just as liable to execute a White person once in possesion as they are a Black person. It's not a racial thing so much as it is a cop thing.

22 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

The whole issue is becoming a war against Pro and Anti Trump. Society totally obsessed by Trump, is completly diverting from the genuine issue here, that is unacceptable police attitude, lack of police accountability and institutional racism. Racism that has been pointed out by various scolars in US Criminal Justice Institutions and politicians.

 

That is because anti-Trump forces have hijacked the justified protests and are trying to unleash a civil war to overthrow Trump. The Antifa activists that US investigators have mentioned are well known haters of Trump. 

 

The far left and the anti-Trump camp carries a major portion of blame for the violence.

it's possible that could postpone the November elections, suspend the constitution? 

2 minutes ago, rabas said:

WOW. One single meme example out of hundreds of millions of people. No wonder you  quote CNN so often.

There are many more of white guys getting special privilege and COUNTLESS recorded events of POC getting screwed. 

7 minutes ago, Logosone said:

That is because anti-Trump forces have hijacked the justified protests and are trying to unleash a civil war to overthrow Trump. The Antifa activists that US investigators have mentioned are well known haters of Trump. 

 

The far left and the anti-Trump camp carries a major portion of blame for the violence.

Far left antifa definately. But not to forget the far right white supremacists who are making a whole issue of the antifas. And with all the rot in politics, one could even speculate that far right white supremacists could be disguised in such gatherings as antifas or whatever just to manipulate public opinion ? In such issues the only true innocent and genuine people are the victims and general public who are fighting for peace.

12 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said:

...and you seem to be daft as a bucket full of sand!

....would ...maybe...if...

There are no white people riots, because white people don't need to riot!

 

And for the women- vote: care to explain, who was oppressing these white women?

Naaaaaaaaaaah.....

 

 

 

Why do Black people need to riot?

2 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

And with all the rot in politics, one could even speculate that far right white supremacists could be disguised in such gatherings as antifas or whatever just to manipulate public opinion ?

Antifa could disguise themselves are far righters who pretend to be Antifa and join in the riots just to manipulate public opinion ?

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Why do Black people need to riot?

REALLY?!? 

Are you honestly asking that? Do you have no idea of the violent, ugly history of the Civil War, the protests required so blacks could sit in the front of the bus or eat in a restaurant with whites? How it cost them at the time ~$150 just to vote when they were finally allowed to?

 

And to be absolutely clear - they are PROTESTING, not rioting. The agitators come in to distract simple minded people.

 

 

8 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

So he gases PEACEFUL protesters by the church across the street from the White House, walks over, holds the bible up, click, photo taken, walks back to the WH and with bangs heard in the background, he declares himself a law and order president.

 

Surreal, innit?

I'm surprised the bible did not burn in his hand......he hasn't seen one of those since the last election cycle.

6 minutes ago, J Town said:

There are many more of white guys getting special privilege and COUNTLESS recorded events of POC getting screwed. 

What " special privileges" do White guys get ?

1 minute ago, J Town said:

REALLY?!? 

Are you honestly asking that? Do you have no idea of the violent, ugly history of the Civil War, the protests required so blacks could sit in the front of the bus or eat in a restaurant with whites? How it cost them at the time ~$150 just to vote when they were finally allowed to?

I was talking about today , not about history .

I was speaking in a present sense, not a past sense 

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

I believe that Blacks do indeed have the same chances as Non Blacks in the USA .

Could you list the reasons on why you think that Blacks do not have the same chances as non Blacks ?

 

 

Quote

 

Racial inequality in Minneapolis is among the worst in the nation

 

The economic gulf between black and white families is higher in the Minnesota city than nearly anywhere else in America, data show

...

The typical black family in Minneapolis earns less than half as much as the typical white family in any given year. And homeownership among black people is one-third the rate of white families.

...

Roughly one-quarter of black families in Minneapolis own their home, which is one of the lowest black homeownership rates in the United States. The city’s white families, by contrast, have one of the nation’s highest rates at 76 percent.

 

 

etc etc etc...

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/30/minneapolis-racial-inequality/

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

I was talking about today , not about history .

I was speaking in a present sense, not a past sense 

Again, they are not RIOTING, they are PROTESTING cuz they're getting killed. Past AND present. Big difference!

3 minutes ago, J Town said:

REALLY?!? 

Are you honestly asking that? Do you have no idea of the violent, ugly history of the Civil War, the protests required so blacks could sit in the front of the bus or eat in a restaurant with whites? How it cost them at the time ~$150 just to vote when they were finally allowed to?

 

And to be absolutely clear - they are PROTESTING, not rioting. The agitators come in to distract simple minded people.

Exactly Trump's point, from his speech, cut out by some of your MSM.

 

“My administration is fully committed that for George and his family justice will be served. He will not have died in vain,” Trump said. “We cannot let the righteous cries of peaceful protesters to be drown out by an angry mob. The biggest victims of the rioting are peace-loving citizens in our poorest communities, and as their president, I will fight to keep them safe.”

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

What " special privileges" do White guys get ?

 

Not getting shot or choked out without cause so often by police?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/trump-threatens-to-deploy-military-as-george-floyd-protests-continue-to-shake-the-us.html

 

Amazing how hypocritical the US is. Supports protests in Hk but not in USA. Threatens sanctions etc if China imposes national security laws in Hk but is ok using the military against protesters in the USA.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/02/hong-kong-leader-calls-out-national-security-double-standards.html

Looks like a riot to me.

 

9 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

And with all the rot in politics, one could even speculate that far right white supremacists could be disguised in such gatherings as antifas or whatever just to manipulate public opinion ? 

Oh please, they were not white supremacists dressed up as antifa, it was Antifa outright:

 

"On Sunday night, New York's top terrorism cop, Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence and Counterterrorism John Miller, detailed his office's analysis and investigation into why the New York City protests have become so violent and damaging at times.

 

"No. 1, before the protests began," Miller said, "organizers of certain anarchist groups set out to raise bail money and people who would be responsible to be raising bail money, they set out to recruit medics and medical teams with gear to deploy in anticipation of violent interactions with police."

He added, "They prepared to commit property damage and directed people who were following them that this should be done selectively and only in wealthier areas or at high-end stores run by corporate entities."

 

"And they developed a complex network of bicycle scouts to move ahead of demonstrators in different directions of where police were and where police were not for purposes of being able to direct groups from the larger group to places where they could commit acts of vandalism including the torching of police vehicles and Molotov cocktails where they thought officers would not be."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/law-enforcement-plays-catch-stop-violence-radical-groups-protests-n1220486

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Lesson? He'll get both of them fired. Reality is that both of these gentlemen would be better presidents than the man hiding in the bunker. And his next election opponent. Presidents are there to show leadership, unite people, put the well-being of the citizens first. They don't send army on their own people. Despearate dictators trying to cling to power do that.

 

That said - I am absolutely not supporting the lawless gangs smashing, burning and robbing anything that they can get their hands on.

hiding with his fräulein

3 minutes ago, rabas said:

Exactly Trump's point, from his speech, cut out by some of your MSM.

 

“My administration is fully committed that for George and his family justice will be served. He will not have died in vain,” Trump said. “We cannot let the righteous cries of peaceful protesters to be drown out by an angry mob. The biggest victims of the rioting are peace-loving citizens in our poorest communities, and as their president, I will fight to keep them safe.”

 

Nice words... Too bad Trump never would have written those himself, even though he may have given them in a speech prepared by others.

 

What he thinks comes out in his Tweets and off the cuff diatribes -- which don't even remotely resemble the comment you've quoted above.

 

 

1 minute ago, J Town said:

Again, they are not RIOTING, they are PROTESTING cuz they're getting killed. Past AND present. Big difference!

Quite a few of them are indeed rioting .

The mans killers, the Police man has been arrested and charged with murder .

Why is there a need to continue with the riots and violence and protests even ?

23 minutes ago, malibukid said:

it's possible that could postpone the November elections, suspend the constitution? 

It's possible that 45 will try and who is going to stop him if he does?

Inflammatory posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Not getting shot or choked out without cause so often by police?

White Police do also kill White people , Black Police also kill White people .

What a tosser. What is not reported in this article that was in world media is Trump was condemning the lack of action by State governors as a slap in the face for the USA as the rest of the world was laughing at them. The tosser is that thick that he doesn't know that we have been laughing at the US and him for the the term of his presidency  comedy act. 

 

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

Quite a few of them are indeed rioting .

The mans killers, the Police man has been arrested and charged with murder .

Why is there a need to continue with the riots and violence and protests even ?

OMG!

Don't you get it already?
It's never been about one man.

That was a trigger.

The bigger issue is unbearable economic inequality and structural racism against black people that never gets addressed.

1 hour ago, J Town said:

There are left extremists as well. It's all sickening, and by the posts defending this as a non-racist protest, it just shows how absolutely divided this whole issue has become.

That's why I said 'partly'.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

What is the possibility that elements of the right wing, basically hijacked the protests, and turned them violent, which then encouraged the rampant looting and rioting. It would not take much with the powder keg environment, the anger towards law enforcement that already existed throughout the US, and the graphic Floyd murder caught on video. The more I consider the possibility, the more it makes sense. It feeds right into trumps agenda. Distract from a massive Covid failure, and a stagnant, do nothing presidency at this point, and make himself look strong and decisive. Could have been sponsored by elements from within the administration, to any of the national security agencies, even the CIA or NSA. Who knows? The protests sure started out peaceful, and quickly degenerated.

 

Makes one wonder. These days in America, I believe anything like this kind of thing is possible. It is then so easy to blame the black man, the people of color, the poor and the others. By casting blame, they do not attempt to fix anything, address the inherent issues, discuss the inherent issues, or make lives better. 

 

Is there anything more cynical, than Trump using force to disperse protestors in front of the White House, to walk across the street to a church, and hold up a bible? As if he was a man of God? Wonders never cease. 

this was my thinking as well, Trump is sitting in the white house watching this with glee.  he relishes this opportunity