'Get your knee off our necks,' activist Sharpton tells George Floyd memorial

[Saint Nick]

12 minutes ago, giddyup said:

The point being made is holding up this career criminal as some kind of saint, surely you can grasp that? As far as what he did wrong, he was trying to pass fake currency off at a store while high on fentanyl and meth.

The carrer- criminal at the point of his killing by the people who are sworn to "protect and serve", was an unarmed citizen!

AFAIK the "fake currency" turned out not to be fake and even if, there is zero evidence, that he knew it to be fake (well...mainly because it wasn't!) and if he was high on anything a) does not matter and b) is not even proven!

So take your hipocracy elsewhere, please!

[evadgib]

4 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

Candice Owens?

Auntie Tom?

oh, please....

& the content...?

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Whilst high on fentanyl and meth. Yeah, he's a model citizen.

Yet while allegedly so was not harming anyone but himself, if he was high that is. 

[giddyup]

Just now, Saint Nick said:

He was handcuffed and did not resist his arrest!

At what point between getting out of the shop and loosing his life, is there any indication of him, being on drugs and causing any trouble to 4 (FOUR) grown police- officers?

At what point does "being high" justify 10 minutes+ of increased pressure on your neck, so much so, it kills you?

By your logic, there should be mass executions all over the land, every bight, for people's DUI!

I don't have much sympathy for a career criminal that held a pregnant woman at gunpoint during a home invasion. What goes around comes around.

[Canuck1966]

Just now, Saint Nick said:

He was handcuffed and did not resist his arrest!

At what point between getting out of the shop and loosing his life, is there any indication of him, being on drugs and causing any trouble to 4 (FOUR) grown police- officers?

At what point does "being high" justify 10 minutes+ of increased pressure on your neck, so much so, it kills you?

By your logic, there should be mass executions all over the land, every bight, for people's DUI!

He had a white packet of drugs that he was trying to hide, one of the cops took it off him

He wouldn't stay in the cop car, said he was claustrophobic & therefore resisted

They opened the other door and proceeded to get him on the floor as he was resisting arrest

He was 6 foot 6 and a big unit on drugs. 

One of the cops even talks about him being on drugs

 

[giddyup]

Just now, Saint Nick said:

The carrer- criminal at the point of his killing by the people who are sworn to "protect and serve", was an unarmed citizen!

AFAIK the "fake currency" turned out not to be fake and even if, there is zero evidence, that he knew it to be fake (well...mainly because it wasn't!) and if he was high on anything a) does not matter and b) is not even proven!

So take your hipocracy elsewhere, please!

The autopsy showed fentanyl and meth in his blood.

[buick]

26 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

A lot of people get high socially (at night), this was the middle of the day

It's unusual activity if you ask me

Did you see the two unsavoury characters who were in the car with him?

They looked wasted 

 

have you read the details on the passengers ?  a man and a woman.  not much out on the woman yet.  but the man had outstanding felony warrants.  gave the police a fake name at the scene to avoid a problem.  then he hitchhiked to houston.  the police caught up to him there and questioned him.  he claims he doesn't know the woman's name (the fellow passenger).

 

edit:  i should add that he was arrested in houston but released.  not sure if that is pending court case or what.  the article i read was brief.

Edited June 5, 2020 by buick

[Saint Nick]

16 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

It was out within a couple of days

The MSM media didn't like it so they squashed it

 

No...it very well wasn't!

There was one report that stated he MAY have been on drugs.

The same report, that stated, he didn't die of suffocation!

This report has since been bebutted by an independent report!

Get your facts straight or provide evidence!

 

[Canuck1966]

A top lawyer will get  three of them off easily and maybe even Chauvin

[giddyup]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Yet while allegedly so was not harming anyone but himself, if he was high that is. 

No one suggests that the cops did the right thing, but please don't keep trying to paint this a-hole as some saint that wouldn't hurt a fly.

[Canuck1966]

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

The autopsy showed fentanyl and meth in his blood.

According to the toxicology report, Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system when he died, as well as cannabis compounds and morphine.

 

Uppers and downers!

Edited June 5, 2020 by Canuck1966

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

No one suggests that the cops did the right thing, but please don't keep trying to paint this a-hole as some saint that wouldn't hurt a fly.

I haven’t done anything of the sort, just pointing out he had moved away from his criminal past. 

Edited June 5, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Canuck1966]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

No one suggests that the cops did the right thing, but please don't keep trying to paint this a-hole as some saint that wouldn't hurt a fly.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd

 

Nice little windfall!

[giddyup]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

I wasn’t just pointing out he had moved away from his criminal past. 

Obviously not if he was high on drugs. He's already served several sentences for drug offences, but he didn't learn anything from the experience obviously.

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

Obviously not if he was high on drugs. He's already served several sentences for drug offences, but he didn't learn anything from the experience obviously.

Six years, at least, since his last conviction for any crime. I’d say that’s evidence of taking onboard the lessons of incarceration. 

Edited June 5, 2020 by Bluespunk

[smutcakes]

15 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

Which -again- has frog all to do, with what happened next: an unarmed black man, got handcuffed and killed by a police- officer ...also: in the middle of the day!

I for one and most on here are not in anyway disagreeing that it should never every happen and the policeman should be charged for murder.

 

My issue is people holding up George Floyd as some kind of model citizen/role model, which he quite clearly was not.

[Saint Nick]

14 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

Stirred up by the Mainstream Media who...

 

Forget to tell everyone that Floyd was a serious career criminal

 

He resisted arrest

 

2 of the officers involved are non white

 

Everyone is being played by the media and most can't see it

 

 

8 year old British girl virtually decapitated and killed in the middle of the street not long ago by a female asylum seeker - have you heard about it? Of course you haven't - the mainstream media are not interested 

 

The mainstream media have a agenda and most people are stupid enough to play their game without even knowing it

 

 

 

 

 

 

- no one forgot, that Floyd had a criminal record! I knew, literally hours, after his death, because the right wing was zeroing in on it from the get go! Why?

Of course to discredit him!

A carrer- criminal, he was not!

 

- that and if he resisted arrest, is AT THE VERY LEAST debatable, at this point!

A bunch of video- footage does kinda not really prove that!

 

- what does the skin- color of the 2 officers have to do with this?

The guy who killed Floyd was white as snow, was kneeling on Floyds neck for another 2 minutes, after he was unresponsive and look straight int the camera!

 

 

[Saint Nick]

17 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Whilst high on fentanyl and meth. Yeah, he's a model citizen.

None!

Of!

That!

Matters!

 

There are many people, who are not model citizens!

Do they all have to live in fear of being killed by the police now and you applauding it?

[smutcakes]

7 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

No...it very well wasn't!

There was one report that stated he MAY have been on drugs.

The same report, that stated, he didn't die of suffocation!

This report has since been bebutted by an independent report!

Get your facts straight or provide evidence!

 

The 'independent' report commissioned by George Floyd's family?

[giddyup]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Six years, at least, since his last conviction for any crime. 

Did you miss the part about him being high on fentanyl and meth? So don't give me this bull that he had turned his life around.

[Saint Nick]

17 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

No

 

A Police Officer killed a American citizen

 

Where is your evidence it was racist?

 

Where?

 

Mainstream Media that's where - despite no evidence it was a racist killing they label it as such and people like you lap up everything they say

 

It's the game they play and you are falling for it

I...don't even know what to say...anymore!

[giddyup]

Just now, Saint Nick said:

 

There are many people, who are not model citizens!

Do they all have to live in fear of being killed by the police now and you applauding it?

You've come too late to the party. It's about the media and the black community holding this guy up as a paragon of virtue.

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

Did you miss the part about him being high on fentanyl and meth? So don't give me this bull that he had turned his life around.

Self harming yes, but hardly a violent criminal engaged in criminal enterprise. 
 

Many people self harm on legal and illegal substances. 
 

He committed no violent crimes since his last conviction and that shows how prison can work to help people turn their lives around. 

[Orton Rd]

27 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

Candice Owens?

Auntie Tom?

oh, please....

She is the most inspirational and honest black comentator today, smearing her with the uncle Tom label just because she outs the democratic hypocricy relating to black issues will not work, and it's Candace, not Candice.

[giddyup]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Six years, at least, since his last conviction for any crime. I’d say that’s evidence of taking onboard the lessons of incarceration. 

Not if he was still using drugs as his autopsy says.

[giddyup]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Self harming yes, but hardly a violent criminal engaged in criminal enterprise. 
 

Many people self harm on legal and illegal substances. 
 

He committed no violent crimes since his last conviction and that shows how prison can work to help people turn their lives around. 

Next you'll be telling me that he was born again and had found Jesus.

[Orton Rd]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Self harming yes, but hardly a violent criminal engaged in criminal enterprise. 
 

Many people self harm on legal and illegal substances. 
 

He committed no violent crimes since his last conviction and that shows how prison can work to help people turn their lives around. 

High on meth (yaba) fentanyl, dropping bags of dope and passing forged notes is turning your life around? come on he just got lucky not being caught the last few years.

Edited June 5, 2020 by Orton Rd

[Saint Nick]

14 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

He had a white packet of drugs that he was trying to hide, one of the cops took it off him

He wouldn't stay in the cop car, said he was claustrophobic & therefore resisted

They opened the other door and proceeded to get him on the floor as he was resisting arrest

He was 6 foot 6 and a big unit on drugs. 

One of the cops even talks about him being on drugs

 

"He had a white packet of drugs that he was trying to hide, one of the cops took it off him'

Source? And even if: what does that matter? He was not arrested for drug posession or abuse!

 

"He wouldn't stay in the cop car, said he was claustrophobic & therefore resisted"

Evidence? And you know, that he was not clasutrophobic...how? And still: how does that justify 10 minutes of increased pressure to his windpipe, effectively killing him?

 

"They opened the other door and proceeded to get him on the floor as he was resisting arrest"

,,,and then they got him to the floor and restrained him...by tieing his feet or holding him down and evverybody went home safe, right!?

Oh no...wait...they had no choice, but to choke him to death!

 

"He was 6 foot 6 and a big unit on drugs."

Aaaaah...the famed Eric Garner- defense! "He was a big guy!" They were FOUR COPS and it took only one to kill him!

 

"One of the cops even talks about him being on drugs"

Fine!

And?

He should have talked to his colleague, to tell him to get of the man's neck!

 

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

Next you'll be telling me that he was born again and had found Jesus.

No, I don’t believe I will. 

Edited June 5, 2020 by Bluespunk

[buick]

floyd was being arrested.  i'd suggest that makes the criminal record quite recent.  he was in the drivers seat of the car so he was likely going to be charged with DUI.  he didn't want to get arrested, so he made it difficult for the first two officers on scene to get him into the vehicle.  those two officers were reportedly rookies, in their first days working for the police force.  they called in back up and that is when the 'kneeler' took charge.  supposedly, the 'kneeler' is a training officer and has had a long career.  so he was in charge once he arrived.  according to the lawyers for the first two on scene, they both made comments to the kneeler about what was happening.  one guy said they should turn him over (so he could breath) and the other guy said what was happening was wrong.  now this comes from their attorney(s).  so who knows about statements.  things get twisted by the attorneys.