1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

What can one even say? Many of us tend to use a great deal of discrimination when it comes to lending money to our close friends. Not sure how to even respond to the idea of lending money to someone you have never even met. Desperation knows no bounds. 

 

Do real men do something like this? I think a real man would call for patience. And face to face meetings. Get to know someone. Take your time. Get ahold of your anxiety. Let it unfold in a rather organic fashion. There is nothing natural about meeting anyone online, and you know virtually nothing about them, until you have spent some real time together. Months, even years. 

 

For some of us, who are not millennials, the whole concept of striking up a relationship online, then chatting and spending dozens or hundreds of hours getting to know someone online, and texting to death, without ever meeting them, just reeks of desperation, and isolation. The few times I ever engaged in online dating, my rule was two emails or chats, then a Skype type video call, then an actual meeting of 20 minutes for a cup of coffee. Lets see where it goes from there. You do not want to meet so quickly? OK. Find another pen pal please. Homey don't play that game.

 

The biggest part of the problem here, is the extreme emasculation that is taking place in the West. Most men, in the US, Europe, and Oz, are no longer real men, when it comes to dealing with their women. Their women have made their lives so difficult, and alot of women have gotten so far away from their innate femininity, and have become dominant, and super controlling, and men just go along with it. Most men have become so hungry for love, or emotionally desperate for some kindness, and TLC. And most are so desirous of being around a real woman, who knows how to act like a woman, and manifest the dignity, within femininity. So, it is easy for the con artists, like this worm Jariyaporn, to take advantage of emotionally wounded men, who seem to be willing to do anything to regain a semblance of normality in their lives, with a decent woman. 

 

When my friends ask, I tell them, always remember, if it is good, it is only going to get better. If there are problems, they will reveal themselves over time. Take your time getting to know a woman here, or anywhere. Time is your ally. It is rarely their ally. They are usually trying to step up the timetable. We need to push back. We need to assert control. An environment like this allows us to do so. Take advantage of that. Be a man. Step up. Pay tribute to the gender. Refuse to lay down anymore. Refuse to be a doormat. Refuse to check your cajones at the door. Start making the decisions! I have so many friends, who come here, and from the very start, make the same mistakes they made back in the West. Except here, they do not need to make those mistakes. The environment does not dictate that they behave like lambs. Many do not know, or realize that, or they succumb to "force of habit". Every ship needs a captain. If the man is not willing to be the captain of the ship, the woman will take over, here in Thailand. Most women here seem to want a strong man. But, if they end up with a wimp, they will take if she is a big baby, who only looks like a real woman, but in reality is a 13 year old, or if she is a con artist, if she is only in it for the money, those realizations will manifest themselves over time. Time allows clarity. Never, ever move too quickly. That is the undoing of most of these guys. Man up. Do yourself proud. 

 

 

All good advice ... However I am curious as to what you mean by this :

 

 

Real men ? Implying that he is not a 'real man' but what ?

4 minutes ago, Bob A Kneale said:

No double standards.  They need to be arrested and charged first, just as happens with the Nigerians.

Sorry, my mistake. The RTP are squeaky clean and corruption free!

11 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

17 minutes ago, Bob A Kneale said:

No double standards.  They need to be arrested and charged first, just as happens with the Nigerians.

Sorry, my mistake. The RTP are squeaky clean and corruption free!

I didn't suggest that they were.  I did suggest that the RTP do not do what you claimed ("Where is the vinyl board and the six Thai cops for the photo op or is that only for Nigerians??? Very sad double standards!") without arresting and charging those involved first. 

Edited June 6, 20206 yr by Bob A Kneale

6 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

All good advice ... However I am curious as to what you mean by this :

 

 

Real men ? Implying that he is not a 'real man' but what ?

Yes. I am implying a "real man" has self esteem, is able to recognize his emotional vulnerability and proceed with caution, and is capable of pushing back against an artificially stepped up timetable. Essentially, he is able to say NO! We are doing this my way or not at all. He realizes just how many choices he has, and behaves accordingly. He is always ready to show her the door or walk away, and is ready and willing to verbalize that.  That is real power. 

 

He does everything in his power to take his time to get to know a gal, and avoids deep feelings until they are deserved and warranted. That could mean spending months and years with her and not chatting incessantly online and assuming " he now knows her". 

 

Otherwise he is a weak sort of half man, half boy. It is all about self esteem and a realization that some women just do not warrant the attention and devotion. It takes time to figure out exactly who she is, what she is made of, whether or not she has a really good family, whether or not she is sincere and not a con, etc. We owe it to ourselves to follow a judicious, conscious, and thoughtful path in life. Right?

And only a desperate man who is not only physically handicapped but also mentally handicapped for a situation that we do not know and that we cannot judge, but the human scum is to be condemned, who cleansed him of any financial resources that he needs to take care of himself.

Amy sounds about par for the course..

2 hours ago, thequietman said:

That is exactly right.

 

I am not proud to say, but I did the same with wifey. Told her that I had no more money and I needed to go home. Immediately, she asked for a waffle machine, 1200 baht, and then proceeded to do the markets. Told me to stay, and she would take care of us.

 

It was at that moment, that I knew I had gotten a good one, and to this day, she tries to save us money every time, and will always opt for the cheaper option. I love her for it, but have learnt by now, that spending a little more, gets you better quality products.

 

Wouldn't change her for the world. ????

Ever heard of  the long con?

People should pass an IQ test (and an EQ test) to be issued a passport. 

Like to comment but words evade me.

????❤????????

He never read Private Dancer.

Now it's time for a hitman to hire. Such a bitch

25 minutes ago, condobrit001 said:

Ever heard of  the long con?

17 years together now - now that really is a long con, if that's her plan. ????

So where is her picture ?

38 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. I am implying a "real man" has self esteem, is able to recognize his emotional vulnerability and proceed with caution, and is capable of pushing back against an artificially stepped up timetable. Essentially, he is able to say NO! We are doing this my way or not at all. He realizes just how many choices he has, and behaves accordingly. He is always ready to show her the door or walk away, and is ready and willing to verbalize that.  That is real power. 

 

He does everything in his power to take his time to get to know a gal, and avoids deep feelings until they are deserved and warranted. That could mean spending months and years with her and not chatting incessantly online and assuming " he now knows her". 

 

Otherwise he is a weak sort of half man, half boy. It is all about self esteem and a realization that some women just do not warrant the attention and devotion. It takes time to figure out exactly who she is, what she is made of, whether or not she has a really good family, whether or not she is sincere and not a con, etc. We owe it to ourselves to follow a judicious, conscious, and thoughtful path in life. Right?

Ok he has to learn to say no, on that we are agreed

 

He then has to learn when it is wise not to say no, and prudent to say 'maybe later'

 

If he is not smart enough to evaluate the needs of a potential partner, along with his own, then failure is surely a major possibility

 

'Man up' be 'forceful' 'take control' 'captain the ship' may sound like good advice, but if you captain a row boat, and have not removed the expectation of a yacht, disappointment is most probably on the way

 

There are lessons one can learn regarding Thai 'love' but I am not convinced 'manning up' 'pushing back' and saying 'no' do anything more than scratch the surface, and could be aggravating, when looking towards a deep relationship that must surely be based on mutual trust, commitment, the ability to put your lady first on occasion, acceptance that the Thai ways are different and being able to adapt, finding common ground and aims, inspiring confidence, and above all mutual respect.

555.

 

Why do Western European handicapped people always have tons of cash? Our welfare systems sure are generous.

1 hour ago, Bob A Kneale said:

No double standards.  They need to be arrested and charged first, just as happens with the Nigerians.

What can they charge her with ?

Did She commit any crime ?

Thank god ive never bought anything, Cons the lot, Most , I never bought a house , for any of them , hell with that , I bought MSX for one idiot she gambled it Away , Dont Trust any and Farang are Worse , Losers always wanting to borrow money 

1 minute ago, euroflash said:

Why do Western European handicapped people always have tons of cash? Our welfare systems sure are generous.

He may have received compensation for an injury that caused his disability ?

I just broke up from a 4 1/2 year relationship. She cost me probably $10K a year, which my son with whom I consult on everything, thought was not unreasonable, considering my income etc. is more than the US average. She did stick with me and helped me a lot in many ways, but the warning was that not long after we started together she was pushing for marriage. I declined. The best tip I got was from a farang friend who has been a monk for many years now, who said "Marry in haste, repent at leisure". I never forgot that and never got around the caution. Now she and I are split and I owe her (and her family) nothing.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. I am implying a "real man" has self esteem, is able to recognize his emotional vulnerability and proceed with caution, and is capable of pushing back against an artificially stepped up timetable. Essentially, he is able to say NO! We are doing this my way or not at all. He realizes just how many choices he has, and behaves accordingly. He is always ready to show her the door or walk away, and is ready and willing to verbalize that.  That is real power. 

 

He does everything in his power to take his time to get to know a gal, and avoids deep feelings until they are deserved and warranted. That could mean spending months and years with her and not chatting incessantly online and assuming " he now knows her". 

 

Otherwise he is a weak sort of half man, half boy. It is all about self esteem and a realization that some women just do not warrant the attention and devotion. It takes time to figure out exactly who she is, what she is made of, whether or not she has a really good family, whether or not she is sincere and not a con, etc. We owe it to ourselves to follow a judicious, conscious, and thoughtful path in life. Right?

 

I'm only agreeing with you because you are describing the way I behave. ????

Though I won't go as far as insulting others, calling them half man, half boy.

Just count yourself privileged to have come to that realisation before you have popped your clogs.

We can't all be lions. 

 

 

5 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Police never get involved though do they?

 

I bet this whðre and her soi boys are having a good old time at his expense

 

Probably money from the Austrian govt anyway, so easy come easy go

Too busy chasing Africans extorting Thai women... that's worthwhile.

Ladies and Gentleman...

 

If you have ever heard the term "fremdschämen", THIS story is the perfect example for it. And it is what I, a "fellow" Austrian (Austro-German), am experiencing at this very moment.

 

I honestly do not get it. I can understand people, both men and women alike, feeling lonely. I can understand, that it's nice to finally get some attention. I can understand, that if you do not get it a lot, and generally have trouble bonding with the opposite sex (or same sex, if that's the way one swings), this might make you feel all warm and fuzzy and what not.

 

What I cannot understand, and I am not sure I really want to either, is that I would then go ahead and spend all this money (I assume it's his life savings, and while it's not rich man's wealth, it's by no means a little amount, especially for someone who isn't even remotely close to Austrian retirement age) on someone I've only just met a few months or so ago, give money for a house (with no proof of purchase, no paper/money trail and apparently not even any serious attempt at confirming if and where the money went to etc.) and not one but TWO (that's where the alarm bells should have gone of at the VERY LATEST) cars, etc. ?!??!?!??!?!?!

 

HOW can someone be this stupid and naive??? To be honest I would already be extremely hesitant to purchase a house in Thailand as it is (since I am not a citizen and thus would be totally at the mercy of the significant other), let alone for some female I hardly know. In a country, that has a long history and many told and untold stories of this kind of <deleted> happening to farangs. And no, I'm not trying to bash Thailand here. It's probably very similar all over the region, and getting involved into a Western marriage, or even in some countries/states it's enough to be just LIVING TOGETHER for a certain amount of time (as in "common law marriages", which can cost you as much as a divorce without ever having gotten married), is also a hazardous affair.

 

I am sure he is the type of guy, that has heard those stories. Maybe even knows someone personally, who this has happened to. Maybe not 1:1 the same situation, but similar. "I know the dangers. THIS could NEVER happen to ME!", must be going through these peoples' heads...

 

Same with those women, who get themselves some boytoy in Algeria, Tunisia, Jamaica, etc. Or from some online dating portal, and send all their money with western union.

 

 

Can someone PLEASE explain it to me?? I've seen plenty of documentaries on stuff like that ("guy finds love with bar girl, believes she is quitting for him, she candidly says in her interview - when alone - that she has 3 to 4 other 'boyfriends' on the side", " 'Middle aged' Australian woman falls for handsome, successful 'white man from the US' working in Asia - who turned out to be a Nigerian operating out of Thailand, like how the f-word can you not tell by the guy's thick accent, that he's NOT American and that 'Keith Miller' is more likely Jolly Hopeful Omorogwo-JaKwanBongo aka Mistah 419 gon chop yo dollah ??!?!?!? - on some dating portal, sends thousnds every month, even though they haven't yet met a single time" etc.), and while they keep insisting they were so lonely, they made them feel special etc. I just cannot even begin to comprehend.

 

I don't want to claim getting scammed could never happen to me. Everyone is susceptible to some kind of fraud, and susceptible to being emotionally manipulated. However, when it comes to stuff like meeting the suspiciously hot, funny and fun to be around, almost to good to be true and oh so suspiciously perfect for me woman, especially when travelling abroad and places KNOWN for this kind of stuff (not just Thailand either, plenty of places in Eastern and even Central Europe, parts of Spain, etc.), let alone someone I met ONLINE and have never seen in person..... I just KNOW not to fork out cash/wire transfers/bank transfers, particularly large sums.

 

This happens so much. I'm in my 30s, and even before internet being wide spread, I've heard of stuff like this. Romance-scams have to be among the oldest in the World.

 

How does it keep happening?? Why do people act with so little care, and make themselves slaves to their emotions? Which more often than not, are nothing but infatuation anyway?!

 

I know, I know. Stupid rant. And I'm even stupider, for wasting my time typing this comment + trying to wrap my head around it. Usually I just shrug and/or comment something like "What an idiot".

 

But especially thanks to Corona and not getting out much, I#ve been reading about and seeing stuff about it (ABC Australia, etc.) much more so than usual (not trying to say it'sh appening more now, just that I am seeing it more, as I'm so bored out of my mind at times, that I'll watch ANYTHING) and the sheer and utter amounts of imbeciles is really starting to get to me, and not in a good way.

 

[/end rant]

 

P.s.: If someone could try to maybe help me understand these people, in a nut shell, I appreciate it. If not move along, nothing to see here ^^

1 hour ago, Trujillo said:

People should pass an IQ test (and an EQ test) to be issued a passport. 

what about, before conceiving ?

Go easy on the poor B ugger, maybe he's a little handicapped in the top paddock - 

7 minutes ago, FarangULong said:

P.s.: If someone could try to maybe help me understand these people, in a nut shell, I appreciate it. If not move along, nothing to see here ^^

Don't bother urself with it, who cares, the guy is obviously an idiot, who has more money than sense.

Just now, OneeyedJohn said:

Don't bother urself with it, who cares, the guy is obviously an idiot, who has more money than sense.

Yes, and more than most posters here. hence the stupid remarks

6 hours ago, DeaconJohn said:

Only in Thailand could this happen...

but stories like this provide ongoing entertainment for the rest of us.

And, to be honest, a WARNING!!

Same idiot as many others. I feel sorry for this guy but it doesnt say he was mentally handicapped so......

1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

So where is her picture ?

You didn't miss much CH23 (Workpoint) just had about 5 minutes on topic with a number of photos.

9 minutes ago, sead said:

Same idiot as many others. I feel sorry for this guy but it doesnt say he was mentally handicapped so......

Same-same but different.

We come in many varieties.

The only thing we all have in common is  that we all LOVE Thailand