RuamRudy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kadilo said: Like <deleted> we should Glad we are in agreement. Now - about those other monsters from the past... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 More of this story. Colston’s girls school in Bristol, named after the slave trader Edward Colston, has removed its own statue of Colston from display, according to the Bristol Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I do think the statue should have been removed years ago, when we entered a more enlightened time - but I don't understand all this self flagelating white guilt. I've never owned a slave, and I don't know know anyone who has. I suspect it's just an excuse to get out of the house, and perhaps loot a TV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStrangeOgre Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So what’s your problem with a statue of a slave trader being thrown in the harbor? ...none at all. Where did i say i did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So what’s your problem with a statue of a slave trader being thrown in the harbor? William the Conquerer crowned himself in Westminster Abbey after some bloke had his eye out but I wouldn't want to see that burned down either, not least cos my ancestors must have played a part in putting it up in the first place. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno123 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, Kadilo said: What! So it wasn’t condemned. ( shame the statue was) Why should it be condemned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno123 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, baansgr said: His profits from slavery were minimal compared to other trading...so maybe just remove a finger of the statue Slavery fortune The wording on the scrapped plaque referred to Colston as one of the city's "greatest benefactors", and later adds "a significant proportion of Colston's wealth came from investments in slave trading, sugar and other slave-produced goods". Colston, who made his fortune through slavery, was on the board of the Royal African Company. Between 1672 and 1689, ships from the company, are believed to have transported 84,000 men, women and children from Africa to the Americas. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-47670756 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So what’s your problem with a statue of a slave trader being thrown in the harbor? The lack of discipline, and Parliament's Army (in the form of plod) sitting back and allowing it to happen right under their noses. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, evadgib said: The lack of discipline, and Parliament's Army (in the form of plod) sitting back and allowing it to happen right under their noses. It must hurt like <deleted> that your beloved so called party of Law and Order didnt have the balls to give the nod and deal with a load of young demonstrators. Not so tough after all eh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bruno123 Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, evadgib said: The lack of discipline, and Parliament's Army (in the form of plod) sitting back and allowing it to happen right under their noses. Because no one think's it worth defending. No one with any honour anyway. The people decided. Where do you live anyway? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, simon43 said: Seems like mob rule has taken over in the UK..... police deciding not to intervene..... rule of law broken time and time again. I'm glad to have left the UK 18 years ago - it's gone to the dogs! Sure, you can't adore the racists anymore. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BillStrangeOgre Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, evadgib said: The lack of discipline, and Parliament's Army (in the form of plod) sitting back and allowing it to happen right under their noses. ...as i said earlier, do you think the police should have risked turning a fairly peaceful demonstration into a riot to save a statue of a slave trader? The demonstrators made their point and went home. No one was hurt, no looting or burning. I think the police played it exactly right Edited June 8, 2020 by BillStrangeOgre 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, evadgib said: The lack of discipline, and Parliament's Army (in the form of plod) sitting back and allowing it to happen right under their noses. It wasn't worth defending or saving. In fact any statue is not worth defending if that means people are going to get injured or maybe killed. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 The music venue Colston Hall in Bristol has issued a statement today confirming its intention to change its name. The plan to abandon the Colston name (derived from Edward Colston) was originally announced three years ago, and a new name was due to be unveiled this spring, as part of a development of the building. The work has been held up because of the coronavirus crisis, the statement says. "Back in the Commons, asked if she agrees that statues of white men who enslaved others should be removed, Priti Patel, the home secretary, said decisions like this should be taken democratically within the law." Another fudger and bluffer in the cabinet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Some off topic posts, inflammatory posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, BillStrangeOgre said: ...as i said earlier, do you think the police should have risked turning a fairly peaceful demonstration into a riot to save a statue of a slave trader? The demonstrators made their point and went home. No one was hurt, no looting or burning. I think the police played it exactly right Info seen elsewhere from a serving copper in that force says they knew full well what the plan was and that they had the resources to deal with it. They were overruled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Some of you boys will froth at the mouth with rage at this article. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8398909/Defiant-Black-Lives-Matter-protestor-says-desecrated-Churchills-statue.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStrangeOgre Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said: The music venue Colston Hall in Bristol has issued a statement today confirming its intention to change its name. The plan to abandon the Colston name (derived from Edward Colston) was originally announced three years ago, and a new name was due to be unveiled this spring, as part of a development of the building. The work has been held up because of the coronavirus crisis, the statement says. "Back in the Commons, asked if she agrees that statues of white men who enslaved others should be removed, Priti Patel, the home secretary, said decisions like this should be taken democratically within the law." Another fudger and bluffer in the cabinet. The Labour party support the action-that's what opposition do. The Torys as government have to stand by the mantra of law and order as they're the ones who have to uphold it...don't try and read to much into it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BillStrangeOgre Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, evadgib said: Info seen elsewhere from a serving copper in that force says they knew full well what the plan was and that they had the resources to deal with it. They were overruled. Of course they have the resources to deal with a few thousand students and yes, they probably knew what was going to happen. There has been opposition and threats to the statue for quite a time. The police would have had a discussion with the mayor on the way forward, common sense prevailed Edited June 8, 2020 by BillStrangeOgre 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, evadgib said: Info seen elsewhere from a serving copper in that force says they knew full well what the plan was and that they had the resources to deal with it. They were overruled. If that's the case then I would say it was a coup for the government. There is no hint of police brutality on our shores, thank you very much, and by letting a small minority of people, intent on violence, dominate the headlines, the much bigger movement is made to look as thuggish and undemocratic as the mob who jumped on the bandwagon. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) The problem will be people standing guard over statues in the next protests, there are bound to be confrontations and violence are tensions are running high. The MSM and social media are fuelling the fires, some people are too thick to get that they are being played. Edited June 8, 2020 by tribalfusion001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: No toss it it the drink, like the bodies of slaves who died on board ships taking them across the Atlantic. So us ole whities can demonstrate and loot...it's a known fact more white sailors died transporting slaves than slaves themselves 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: The problem will be people standing guard over statues in the next protests, there are bound to be confrontations and violence are tensions are running high. The MSM and social media are fuelling the fires, some people are too thick to get that they are being played. Exactly...the BLM demonstrators are being played and are too dim to see how they are being used. Thanks for highlighting that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, tribalfusion001 said: The problem will be people standing guard over statues in the next protests, there are bound to be confrontations and violence are tensions are running high. The MSM and social media are fuelling the fires, some people are too thick to get that they are being played. TBH that seems to be on the cards for next Saturday if HMG can't come up with a solution beforehand. The best thing they could do is drop this virus malarky and send everyone back to work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VocalNeal Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 There were white slaves as well. Who is championing their cause? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, baansgr said: Exactly...the BLM demonstrators are being played and are too dim to see how they are being used. Thanks for highlighting that point The other side are being played too, both sides are being played to clash with each other. Rumours of white football hooligans turning up for the next protest, Tommy Robinson's name mentioned on that Facebook page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, evadgib said: TBH that seems to be on the cards for next Saturday if HMG can't come up with a solution beforehand. The best thing they could do is drop this virus malarky and send everyone back to work. Couldn't agree more, these lockdowns need to finish before the damage gets worse. The death totals are dropping and it's not certain a 2nd wave will happen anyway. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/08/fall-of-bristols-colston-statue-revives-rhodes-campaign-in-oxford The protest in Oxford is planned to take place at 5pm on Tuesday in front of the Rhodes statue. Round 2 on the way. Edited June 8, 2020 by tribalfusion001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: The other side are being played too, both sides are being played to clash with each other. Rumours of white football hooligans turning up for the next protest, Tommy Robinson's name mentioned on that Facebook page. I saw Elvis selling kebabs in Scunthorpe on an FB page....hardly reliable source is FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: There were white slaves as well. Who is championing their cause? Do you feel sufficiently aggrieved to take a stand? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, baansgr said: I saw Elvis selling kebabs in Scunthorpe on an FB page....hardly reliable source is FB Check it out for yourself https://www.facebook.com/pg/WeAreAPW/posts/?ref=page_internal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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