Covid-19: Keep wearing masks - risks from asymptomatic young people on the rise

[webfact]

Covid-19: Keep wearing masks - risks from asymptomatic young people on the rise

 

Picture: Sanook

 

A Thai health ministry disease expert has warned the public that a high number of school students, students and younger people in the workplace have been found to have coronavirus.

 

They are healthy and have no symptoms of the disease and are thus a high risk group for the spread of the virus.

 

Dr Anupong Sujariyakun was quoted by Sanook as saying that in Thailand there have been 806 cases among the 20 -29 age group that represents 26% of all coronavirus cases.

 

Consequently he continued to warn about the prospect of people outside this group being infected through large gatherings and lack of social distancing. Families were at risk too. 

 

He advised that people do not let down their guard and continue to protect themselves and others by wearing facemasks. 

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[DrJack54]

Just a question. How many in the 20-29yr group have been hospitalized and how many have died?

Excluding pre-existing health factors.

Edited June 11, 2020 by DrJack54

[ThailandRyan]

@Logosone, so is this just another flip flop or did you miss these statistics yesterday when you were talking about the WHO and very few transmissions from asymptomatic carriers.  I am starting to get confused now between what is real and what you post.  However, as I said yesterday there are always to sides to any equation and people choose what they want to espouse in regards to there agenda's, much like the governments around the world are doing.  

Edited June 11, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[steven100]

Good to remind folks and especially the age bracket mentioned. No harm in his warning to all that now is not the time to be complacent.

I will continue to wear a mask when outside until it is deemed virus free & little chance if none of transmission be others.

[JCP108]

If the people in the study were healthy and with no symptoms, why did so many get tested?

 

An article in the online site that can't be quoted today stated that Thailand's success was because they were only testing people with symptoms.

Edited June 11, 2020 by JCP108

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

A Thai health ministry disease expert has warned the public that a high number of school students, students and younger people in the workplace have been found to have coronavirus.

big frickin deal; my 10 year old son knows that, this maskless expert spouting off in public...; illustrates the state of 'experts' here

[Suua]

Exactly, the idiot has obviously not read the latest news where they have discovered that asymptomatic cases actually account for extremely rare cases of the disease being passed on. They found that the disease was largely transmitted by people already showing symptoms/were inflected. 

[redwood1]

The good Dr seems to have forgot to wear his mask.......

 

 

[JCP108]

2 minutes ago, Suua said:

Exactly, the idiot has obviously not read the latest news where they have discovered that asymptomatic cases actually account for extremely rare cases of the disease being passed on. They found that the disease was largely transmitted by people already showing symptoms/were inflected. 

Yes, and posters in this forum have pointed out recently in (wild) support of China's reported success (and low-risk status) that there were hundreds of people testing positive there recently but that they were asymptomatic and swabs of the eating utensils and masks (a specious claim) were absolutely virus-free. 

 

I heard a saying from the Middle East one time: You can't ride two camels with only one butt. 

[redwood1]

4 minutes ago, Suua said:

Exactly, the idiot has obviously not read the latest news where they have discovered that asymptomatic cases actually account for extremely rare cases of the disease being passed on. They found that the disease was largely transmitted by people already showing symptoms/were inflected. 

Asymptomatic could be just about anybody......So to the delight to some.....This health emergency could be extended for a very long time.....

[Thaiwrath]

I went to an appointment at Khon Kaen General hospital on Monday.

Social distancing: Nil. The place is not big enough to social distance, as many patients bring half the family with them.

Masks: I would estimate 90% of masks worn were useless. Many looked like they had never been washed, and showed signs of bacteria, probably more dangerous than Covid itself !

The doctor I saw: I was pleasantly surprised when I entered the room, to see the doctor not wearing a mask.

Overall, if I was to trust this doctor, who sees numerous, up country, patients daily, or an overpaid, so called, Thai Health ministry expert, sitting nicely at his desk, and probably very well paid for what he says, I am in the camp of the doctor, and I only wear one when compulsory.  

Edited June 11, 2020 by Thaiwrath

[smedly]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

They are healthy and have no symptoms of the disease and are thus a high risk group for the spread of the virus.

took the 5 months to figure out

 

so how many were/are infected in Thailand and how many have died undiagnosed ?

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said:

showed signs of bacteria,

You carry a microscope?

[zeamonkey]

Just another clown setting up another scenario that can be used down the line by the government to extend their emergency decree. Ignored.

[lensta]

Just give the scare mongering a rest. Enough already.

[Sheryl]

It is misleading to day "on the rise". These are the total number among all those ever tested since testing began.

 

Few if any students tested in the past few weeks as, in the absence of any identified domestic cases,   testing is now focused only on new arrivals from abroad.

[lensta]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He advised that people do not let down their guard and continue to protect themselves and others by wearing facemasks

Then why isn't he wearing one??? Do people not see the hypocrisy in these so called experts?

[mommysboy]

Either Thailand is all but free of covid19 or it isn't.  If there are currently a large number of youngsters testing positive then there will likely be a large number of all age groups who are also infected.  

 

If on the other hand this is deliberately poor use of the present perfect tense to blur the line between the present and the past then this story is plain silly, because it is the present day that counts.

[connda]

Test everyone and you'd find out that a large proportion of the population has already been infected and are asymptomatic.
On average, Covid-19 has a 99.96% survival rate. 

World "leaders" and power-junkies have found a way to make the public dance to The Flu.  The ultimate dystopian power-trip becomes reality.  They have destroyed economies, cultures, and societies.  For what? 

"But always there will be the intoxication of power. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who's helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever. The moral to be drawn from this dangerous nightmare situation is a simple one: don't let it happen. It depends on you."
- George Orwell 

Now shut up and get your mask on!

[connda]

21 minutes ago, lensta said:

Then why isn't he wearing one??? Do people not see the hypocrisy in these so called experts?

Unless they are participating in a virtue-signalling photo-op, most "leaders" and "experts" who are demanding the public to 'wear masks" and "social distance" neither wear masks nor social distance. 

"But we need to follow the rules set by our leaders and experts!"

No.  Follow the examples set by your leaders and experts.  Do the same as they do.  Nothing.  Why?  These people are not afraid of the 'deadly virus' that they are telling you that you must be mortally afraid of contracting. 

 

Where's your mask? 

 

Why isn't the Anutin entourage social distancing?
Why are they sharing food among themselves?

 

The rules are for thee, and not for we (the elite). 

 

[prakhonchai nick]

Tesco yesterday. everyone entering  had a mask and had temp taken. Practically nobody scanned the QR code or entered details on the form on the table..no instruction to do so. Once inside the shop, many people removed the mask. -2 employees seen had no mask.  Meanwhile there was a continuous recording stating that to comply with government regulations EVERYONE must either sign in on entering and leaving or scan the code and wear the mask.  Does anyone care?

[RedRoadRunner]

Pathetic as always !!!

[JCP108]

54 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

It is misleading to day "on the rise". These are the total number among all those ever tested since testing began.

 

Few if any students tested in the past few weeks as, in the absence of any identified domestic cases,   testing is now focused only on new arrivals from abroad.

Well, the article states that that age group represents 26% of cases. But, it doesn't explain if any of the 800+ positives mentioned have been counted in the official reports. 

 

I agree. If you say "on the rise" then you have to provide at least two data points in time with the second being higher. You can't give one number and say that. Oh lord what a circus. 

[JCP108]

56 minutes ago, lensta said:

Then why isn't he wearing one??? Do people not see the hypocrisy in these so called experts?

They see it but put up with it. It's why the Thai people in my part of BKK (Ladprao) only wear masks when traveling outside the local neighborhood. If near home, remove the charade. My neighbors are also distancing as well as Anutin's dinner party. 

[Guderian]

This is one of the most confusing statements I've seen so far. We knew that something over half of all cases in Thailand had been young people, and this was explained by the penchant of young Thais for gathering in groups to drink lots of alcohol from the same glasses and bottles, and swap cigarettes, and share food with their fingers. Fair enough, but now he's telling us that most of them were actually asymptomatic, which is news to me, so why did they test them in the first place? Surely, the testing programme has been highly targeted at those displaying symptoms and hospitalised. If all these hundreds of young people were asymptomatic, then why were they tested?

[Deli]

Test everybody in one day.

Problem solved

[Sheryl]

7 minutes ago, Guderian said:

This is one of the most confusing statements I've seen so far. We knew that something over half of all cases in Thailand had been young people, and this was explained by the penchant of young Thais for gathering in groups to drink lots of alcohol from the same glasses and bottles, and swap cigarettes, and share food with their fingers. Fair enough, but now he's telling us that most of them were actually asymptomatic, which is news to me, so why did they test them in the first place? Surely, the testing programme has been highly targeted at those displaying symptoms and hospitalised. If all these hundreds of young people were asymptomatic, then why were they tested?

They tested all known contacts of confirmed cases, including family members

[loong]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Keep wearing masks - risks from asymptomatic young people on the rise

What is it now, 17 or 18 days with zero locally transmitted infections?

How can the risk be rising?? To my way of thinking, any risk must be falling?

Now, if there are hordes of Asymptomatic youngsters roaming Thailand and yet there are zero recorded infections arising from them, what does that tell you? Probably that the risk is close to nil.

I am not an expert, but from what I have been reading these last months, the so called "experts" don't seem to be experts at all.

It seems to me that since they have been testing all returnees for infections, over half of those found to be infected are asymptomatic. Those who are showing symptoms, they seem to be mild as there is only 1 case in Thailand that is considered serious.

This suggests that there are/have been a lot of Asymptomatic carriers in the general population as they have only been testing those who meet quite stringent criteria.

The question is, why are some people asymptomatic? Is it possible that they are spreading the coronavirus but with such a low viral lode that the bodies of the people they infect are able to fight the virus and build up antibodies so that they are also able to cope with a heavier infection?

[natway09]

I suggested that to a NZ paper when they started celebrating "active virus free"& opened everything up.

The replies by top Doctors suggest that this guy has got it wrong but maybe a different strain

[JCP108]

45 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

They tested all known contacts of confirmed cases, including family members

That idea is contradicted in an article today in the news site which can't be quoted here. In that article, a Dr. Tanarak explains that the success of Thailand was because of targeted testing that didn't test all contacts but only high-risk contacts and those with symptoms. 

Edited June 11, 2020 by JCP108