16 hours ago, JCP108 said:

That is, and will be, the narrative. 

I tend to think even if tourist brings covid back in the land of saving face   "officially " still zero.

15 hours ago, ukrules said:

It could create a big problem, especially if it leads to another 'shutdown', this is why I expect there will be multiple countries on the list and the flights will all start around the same time.

 

It's not just up to Thailand who comes here, they will need to agree reciprocal terms with other countries. I can only imagine the negotiations happening right now.

 

China will be demanding other countries are allowed to travel starting on the very same day the Chinese flights begin - the others won't be so keen on that for obvious reasons. They won't want to become Chinas excuse.

 

I'm thinking of the countries which don't kiss Chinas ass, countries like Japan.

I think if there were to be a rise in infection after letting certain "preferred countries" back in, the numbers of infections will start slowly and increase slowly at first  giving plenty of time to suppress the new cases long enough to invite additional "dirty countries" back in and allocate blame and negatativity accordingly

 

17 hours ago, ukrules said:

Of course it will have a zero effect on the spread of COVID-19.

 

Right now there are ZERO cases of COVID-19 in the country outside of the quarantines, or so they claim.

 

They've walked themselves into a trap by announcing zero infections over an extended period of time and there's no clear and easy way out of this situation for them.

 

Removing curfew will not in any way change the fact that there's zero COVID-19 cases in the country, the number will continue to be zero regardless of what people inside the country do.

 

The only way there will be new COVID cases inside Thailand now is if the government allow them to enter from abroad.

 

When that happens everyone knows who to blame.

However, you forget the asymptomatic young folks, as mentioned in the news yesterday, the hidden second wave we need to be scared for...

 

10 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

The curfew has been a complete waste of time for the past six weeks,  it became obsolete when they banned the sale of alcohol. 

But when they allowed the sale of alcohol the people started to gather at many places and started to drink alcohol in public even if it was not allowed. Also many hookers were around at such locations. It was a kind of nightlife without the usual nightlife. The curfew stopped this at 11. Otherwise this special nightlife would have been going on the whole night. 

4 minutes ago, Oldie said:

The curfew stopped this at 11. Otherwise this special nightlife would have been going on the whole night

The curfew in itself stopped nothing, there was already a notice about gathering in groups and drinking in public at any time of the day.
If the police did their job no curfew would have been necessary.

4 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

The curfew in itself stopped nothing, there was already a notice about gathering in groups and drinking in public at any time of the day.
If the police did their job no curfew would have been necessary.

There was a regulation. But the police can't control all places. Lets assume some bars were open at some places and nobody cared - for whatever reason... But with the curfew in place it was dangerous for people to move around at night. And so such illegal activities were limited to people of the direct neighborhood. 

Sure, let's get the numbers down so we can entertain more visitors from China? If you or anyone actually believes the CCP then good luck to you and good luck to Thailand

18 hours ago, DaLa said:

I don't have 'normal daily activities' between 11 PM and 3 AM.  

I do - "SLEEP"

18 hours ago, ukrules said:

Of course it will have a zero effect on the spread of COVID-19.

 

Right now there are ZERO cases of COVID-19 in the country outside of the quarantines, or so they claim.

 

They've walked themselves into a trap by announcing zero infections over an extended period of time and there's no clear and easy way out of this situation for them.

 

Removing curfew will not in any way change the fact that there's zero COVID-19 cases in the country, the number will continue to be zero regardless of what people inside the country do.

 

The only way there will be new COVID cases inside Thailand now is if the government allow them to enter from abroad.

 

When that happens everyone knows who to blame.

 

Just remember at any time testing can be introduced to create a "new wave" and further lockdowns.  What a great tool for dictatorial govts.

1 minute ago, tlandtday said:

Just remember at any time testing can be introduced to create a "new wave" and further lockdowns.  What a great tool for dictatorial govts.

Real dictators don't need something like Corona. Look for instance at North Korea. 

Keep the curfew, it will keep the masses out of there dens in the early hours and give us all a good nights sleep, also saving on medical care in years to come for young binge drinkers, nor withstanding the Covid risk as it is reported on TVF that it is young carriers the government are concerned about.

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

lifting the curfew for a 15-day trial period while maintaining the state of emergency.

Good news??? After 15 days then what, no curfew or its reintroduction? Bars, pubs, clubs etc. still banned from selling alcohol.

4 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

who is out between 11 -3/4 am ?  ladyboys?  hookers ?  burglars ?

Count Dracula is reported to be "very pleased" at the news.

4 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

who is out between 11 -3/4 am ?  ladyboys?  hookers ?  burglars ?

 

 

Clearly, you have never experienced Pattaya.

31 minutes ago, Expat Tom said:

Sure, let's get the numbers down so we can entertain more visitors from China? If you or anyone actually believes the CCP then good luck to you and good luck to Thailand

You think lifting a curfew is about getting the tourists from China to return ?

 

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

8 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Clearly, you have never experienced Pattaya.

I think the same. In very many years in Pattaya I never saw a burglar at this late time. 

17 hours ago, baansgr said:

Isn't sleep a normal daily activity????

I beg to differ. It is a "nightly" activity and, then again, if sleeping is considered as an activity as, by definition, one is mostly physically inactive during sleeping ????

22 minutes ago, potless said:

Count Dracula is reported to be "very pleased" at the news.

And I bet he got his teeth into this article!!

18 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

 

There was talk of China and some other Asian countries being on the 'allowed travel' list.

 

This is a list of countries which will be blamed if there is even a single infection detected in Thailand, perhaps not by the government but definitely by the people.

 

Would you want to be on the list of potential countries of blame or maybe better stay off the list?

 

When has the government listened to what the people say or think?

The government is supreme in Thailand...

20 hours ago, Traubert said:

Not celebrating then?

What is there to celebrate about,

 

Allowing me to out and do what?

 

The only reason I am up between 11 pm and 3 am is to go for a pee.

 

 

5 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

who is out between 11 -3/4 am ?  ladyboys?  hookers ?  burglars ?

Get a life , if foreign friends are over we might be at a movie/club  bar that gets out late then head to a restaurant to  eat and then go home.  Other scenariors could be at a concert/movie then dinner then home ect.  Most times not home till  2 AM or later.   Some of us have active/fun lives and don't live in Nakhon Nowhere and don't have to turn in early.

20 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Firstly, it isn't a return to normal life, normal life does not exist anywhere that has a state of emergency in place. Secondly, I imagine any 5 year old can tell you, and your experts, that getting rid of the nonsensical curfew will have no <deleted> effect whatsoever on the spread of Covid-19.

It may have an effect as it is fairly well documented that the virus is killed fairly quickly in direct sunlight especilly in Thailand's intense sunlight. At night when it's cooler, damper and no sunlight (UV rays) to kill the virus it may be more easily transmiited.

11 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

Get a life , if foreign friends are over we might be at a movie/club  bar that gets out late then head to a restaurant to  eat and then go home.  Other scenariors could be at a concert/movie then dinner then home ect.  Most times not home till  2 AM or later.   Some of us have active/fun lives and don't live in Nakhon Nowhere and don't have to turn in early.

Believe me - life is possible before 11 pm - if necessary even with booze and girls. No need to wake up like dead. 

20 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Has he had a go at a bit of DIY haircutting with one of those razor comb things .. 

 

Wrong hair colour also. Probably bought the hair dye in 7/11.

7 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

who is out between 11 -3/4 am ?  ladyboys?  hookers ?  burglars ?

Me as soon as this ridiculous curfew is lifted.

Taking advantage programming minds military <deleted>. You did a great job of nothing. The people were scared so hid. You take credit for starving people better. Lift this stupid curfew. It's game over and open airports. You are lazy and ignorant 

So the end is in sight. Sadness descends over the Control Freaks who rather enjoyed the power trip. Containing the Virous was but a small factor. No doubt if we dont all ware Red Noses on June 11, they will re hash some more nonsence .

On 6/11/2020 at 7:10 PM, ukrules said:

Of course it will have a zero effect on the spread of COVID-19.

 

Right now there are ZERO cases of COVID-19 in the country outside of the quarantines, or so they claim.

 

They've walked themselves into a trap by announcing zero infections over an extended period of time and there's no clear and easy way out of this situation for them.

 

Removing curfew will not in any way change the fact that there's zero COVID-19 cases in the country, the number will continue to be zero regardless of what people inside the country do.

 

The only way there will be new COVID cases inside Thailand now is if the government allow them to enter from abroad.

 

When that happens everyone knows who to blame.

 

You cant be silly about this. It's a tourist country. I said many times before now you can be tested. Enough off this Thai <deleted>. Life must go on. 

Edited June 12, 20206 yr by tomauasia

On 6/11/2020 at 6:32 PM, Thaiwrath said:

Firstly, it isn't a return to normal life, normal life does not exist anywhere that has a state of emergency in place. Secondly, I imagine any 5 year old can tell you, and your experts, that getting rid of the nonsensical curfew will have no <deleted> effect whatsoever on the spread of Covid-19.

Correct its a exuse to delay reopening the country to end bars.

On 6/11/2020 at 8:00 PM, ukrules said:

When they do allow foreigners into the country from some locations these are the places which will be directly held responsible for changing Thailand from a COVID free place into a COVID infected zone, again.

 

There was talk of China and some other Asian countries being on the 'allowed travel' list.

 

This is a list of countries which will be blamed if there is even a single infection detected in Thailand, perhaps not by the government but definitely by the people.

 

Would you want to be on the list of potential countries of blame or maybe better stay off the list?

 

This so called list will fold. Thailand will be boycotted for racism. They will exclude the real high risk nations. Visitors will be tested. Common sense will prevail