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Given who its put out by I won't attach too much cred' to it .. 

But what is puzzling about this apparent success is it is never bigged up outside of Thailand .. Just about every other nation in the region has been mentioned for their varying degrees of success but never Thailand .. strange or what .. 

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Remember when the MSM came out... TESTING! TESTING! TESTING!

If you aggressively test a virus... oh let us say the flu virus...guess what you get lots of positives. 

If you don't test aggressively, you don't get lots of positives... Funny how that works. 

IMO, when you don't really have a true health emergency going on, meaning, this C Virus never actually required the draconian measures that were put in place, and you don't have an ulterior motive to want to artificially inflate your countries numbers, then you take the no wide-spread testing approach. 

 

Well done! Thailand. 

And for those of you who will comment that you think this really is an emergency, honestly ask yourself, or ask anyone else, was there ever a time when the emergency rooms, the ICU's were full of dying pandemic related patients? Hmm... were there?

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As the attachment makes clear, the rating is 70% based on fatalities per capita (not on infections).

 

As I understand it, Thailand had many deaths from 'pneumonia' in the period Dec-April, before they had even begun to go thru the motions (so to speak) testing for coronaV. The way the Western stats-collecting people check on this - including for China - is to check the total deaths from (in this case) pneumonia for a given period against the same period last year. Which of course assumes only one major variable - CV - but it does provide an estimate of the size of the unreported CV deaths.

 

The list does also rather knock a few self-appointed 'best in the world' countries off their perch. Notably NZ, which claims to have eliminated CV completely. Which it may well have done, but it's not so good on fatalities per capita.

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1 hour ago, Justgrazing said:

Given who its put out by I won't attach too much cred' to it .. 

But what is puzzling about this apparent success is it is never bigged up outside of Thailand .. Just about every other nation in the region has been mentioned for their varying degrees of success but never Thailand .. strange or what .. 

You should read more. 

Thailand has been mentioned,  and lauded.

Today, for instance,  in the Guardian 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/14/thailand-malaysia-vietnam-how-some-countries-kept-covid-at-bay?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Samsung_Internet

 

Of course,  Vietnam,  Taiwan and NZ are stealing the show. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:

And for those of you who will comment that you think this really is an emergency, honestly ask yourself, or ask anyone else, was there ever a time when the emergency rooms, the ICU's were full of dying pandemic related patients? Hmm... were there?

They wouldn't need to be; it'd easily slide under the radar as pneumonia with a few a week at this or that hospital. Apparently, Thailand is missing something like 1800 people according to the NYT article. It does make me chuckle, however, how people are so easily swayed by the kind of dubious people that are running the country.

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3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Thailand is ranked second in the Global COVID-19 Index (GCI) after Australia, and first in Asia in the same index.

All I can say to this is lol.

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Well done, Thailand. It's surprising considering that Thailand has the largest number of Chinese tourists in Asia.

 

As usual, the skeptics will have negative comments.

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Anyone's guess what the real numbers are (were) in Thailand.  I'm back in Canada and watching whats going on back home (Thailand), compared to here in the province I'm in (Ontario).  They are performing 20,000+/- CV19 tests daily here in Ontario, for a population of approx. 14.5 million. 

 

2 weeks ago, not 350 meters from where I'm located, authorities detected an "outbreak" at a retirement home, 31 residents tested positive, 7 caregivers tested positive, 3 deaths (residents).  No additional hospitalization or ICU required, all people involved were provided an appropriate quarantine process/facility.  Would this have been detected back home?  Are similar scenarios being detected/tested throughout communities?  In any case, I'm looking forward to getting back home.

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Probably there are inaccuracies in the the data for every country.  We know, for example, that at least fourteen states in the US are deliberately undercounting or underreporting deaths or infections, quite apart from the fact that testing still has not reached the necessary rates there.  Nevertheless, Thailand with the first outbreak outside of China and a population the size of France, could have become Italy, but obviously didn't.  That's the bottom line.  

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7 hours ago, simon43 said:

So where is Laos in that index?  19 cases (all recovered), no deaths.....

The index is a joke. 

NZ handled covid obviously better than Australia. 

Taiwan,  Vietnam,  Laos, Macao better than Thailand. 

There are quite a few Pacific island nations without any case - isn't that the best possible outcome? 

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5 hours ago, uhuh said:

The index is a joke. 

NZ handled covid obviously better than Australia. 

Taiwan,  Vietnam,  Laos, Macao better than Thailand. 

There are quite a few Pacific island nations without any case - isn't that the best possible outcome? 

You don't understand the meaning of the numbers.  For a country of sixty-eight million like Thailand, the difference between a death count of zero, 58, or 1800 is itself zero.  The difference between the deaths per million between New Zealand at 4.5 and Australia at 4.08 is again, effectively zero.  These are the countries that succeeded at containing the outbreak and that very much includes China with 3.3 deaths per million.  By contrast, all of the Western countries failed completely at containment. Many like Sweden, the UK, and the US didn't even try to contain it.  Among the failures some, like Germany, managed the next-best-thing mitigation effort better than others, but that doesn't change the fact that they failed first at the crucially important task of containment.

 

The important difference is between effective containment and a failure to contain leading to a lockdown and all the resulting economic damage, all of which was unnecessary and the fault of the vastly incompetent governments involved.

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I do understand the numbers very well.

0 deaths for 100 million population (Vietnam) looks better to me than Thailand. And so on.

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