16 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

16 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Its still night time in America now, so Trump will probably read it when he wakes up in the morning 

Cool

No time, he is busy yelling at the TV and writing twits. 

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

No time, he is busy yelling at the TV and writing twits. 

Which twits? Nadler? Pelosi???? ????????

3 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Which twits? Nadler? Pelosi???? ????????

No to twits that folow him

Can polls really get worse after Boston's book publication?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

21 minutes ago, candide said:

Can polls really get worse after Boston's book publication?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

We can certainly HOPE so!

2 hours ago, sirineou said:

No to twits that folow him

Nadler and Pelosi.

10 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Nadler and Pelosi.

Nadler and Pelosi are trump followers? 

18 hours ago, Traubert said:

Bolton is a complete weasel but I"d be interested to know what he has to say.

 

Not lining his pockets though so somebody point me to a review when the time comes.

Well here we go.. have a look at this for starters... to say Trump will be furious is understatement I think..

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/17/politics/bolton-book-trump/index.html

 

6 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

Well here we go.. have a look at this for starters... to say Trump will be furious is understatement I think..

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/17/politics/bolton-book-trump/index.html

 

I've seen this and similar news articles. To a normal thinking person, it adds fuel to the dumpster fire aka the Trump administration. Will it change the stubborn minds of those wearing confederate flag blinders? Probably not. The most important thing is to VOTE in the coming election.

11 hours ago, riclag said:

 I never said stop,Your words, stop !

 

I don't think Trump is stopping bolton. But I sure as hell hope the executive branch is vetting what he can and can't say by reviewing boltons publication!

 

 Go back to post # 46  just to see one example. Do you know whats in the book that needs to be examined! I sure as hell don't! So the office of this branch(executive branch) is vetting it with other agencies .

 

You do know there are three branches to the gov, don't you! Do you know all the laws about what former employees can divulge! Did you know there are rules and federal laws regarding , the executive branch former employees,  they sign many waivers of compliance  to rules and guidelines, 

 A employee is subjected to federal waivers involving many agencies of the federal gov.  I imagine with the office of defense(bolton being the head),it has many more,  especially dealing with private conversations and national security concerns with the  office of the Presidency.

 

There are restrictions that are in place  that are categorized, as 

as other restrictions!

"Other Restrictions, A former executive branch employee may be subject to additional restrictions imposed by agency-specific laws.

Caveat: The bullet points are not comprehensive. In general, former executive branch employees should seek advice from the Designated Agency Ethics Official or another ethics official at the agency in which the individual formerly served".

https://www.oge.gov/Web/oge.nsf/Resources/After+Leaving+Government

 

And your trust issue that you claim,lol  

 

Thank you for admitting no such defense on Executive Privilege. Takes a big man to admit.

Yes. I am very well ware and realize this is a trump ploy doomed to fail. Get up to date. You are not current.

After that continue to discuss what is revealed now. Honestly your support of him tells me and everyone here a lot about you

Too late, the info is out:

 

John Bolton’s bombshell Trump book: eight of its most stunning claims

White House tried to block publication of The Room Where It Happened, but the book has been leaked to media outlets

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/john-bolton-book-trump-china-dictators-saudi-arabia

 

7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Too late, the info is out:

John Bolton’s bombshell Trump book: eight of its most stunning claims

White House tried to block publication of The Room Where It Happened, but the book has been leaked to media outlets

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/john-bolton-book-trump-china-dictators-saudi-arabia

 

Bombshell? Meh, everyone already knows what an erratic, stupid stable genius buffoon he is. Would any of this have changed the minds of his Senate sycophants in the impeachment travesty? Probably not. Best thing to do is vote him out of office. Instructions for overseas voting here:

https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/voting/

5 minutes ago, J Town said:

Bombshell? Meh, everyone already knows what an erratic, stupid stable genius buffoon he is. Would any of this have changed the minds of his Senate sycophants in the impeachment travesty? Probably not. Best thing to do is vote him out of office. Instructions for overseas voting here:

https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/voting/

I in a way disagree I think many republicans would love to run him off but they are terrified of the repercussions if they grew some balls in mass they would deal with him in short order but no they are divided and terrified 

20 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Was you talking to Trump ?

Why would you? He listens to no one!

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

Nadler and Pelosi are trump followers? 

No, they’re a ‘short-cut key’ Crazy’s keyboard.

 

Rightwing deflection talking point not yet received - hit ‘short-cut’.

 

 

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Too late, the info is out:

 

John Bolton’s bombshell Trump book: eight of its most stunning claims

White House tried to block publication of The Room Where It Happened, but the book has been leaked to media outlets

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/john-bolton-book-trump-china-dictators-saudi-arabia

 

Pretty outrageous stuff that Trump was engaged in...but not surprising.  The man has no morals or core values.  Some of this stuff is textbook treason, i.e., Trump is a traitor.  So what do you call people who supports a traitor? 

10 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Pretty outrageous stuff that Trump was engaged in...but not surprising.  The man has no morals or core values.  Some of this stuff is textbook treason, i.e., Trump is a traitor.  So what do you call people who supports a traitor? 

He is also dumb bat sh.. stupid. He thought that Finland was part of Russia and didn't know UK had nuclear weapons. The book had a reference to Pompeo saying 'he is full of sh...'. He is no patriot; asking China to help in his re-election by buying more agriculture products and agreeing with China on the Uyghurs detention camps. 

43 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He is also dumb bat sh.. stupid. He thought that Finland was part of Russia and didn't know UK had nuclear weapons. The book had a reference to Pompeo saying 'he is full of sh...'. He is no patriot; asking China to help in his re-election by buying more agriculture products and agreeing with China on the Uyghurs detention camps. 

A million Uyghurs are in detention camps in Xinjiang Province, many having their organs harvested and sold. 45 knows this because the intel has been presented to him. He approves of it.

 

He's a psychopath. Bolton's book just corroborates that stark reality.

From The Atlantic Magazine re Bolton, his book, and what he could have done:

 

"He could have spoken to Robert Mueller. He could have given evidence in the House. He could have convened Republican Senators—they would have listened to him—to tell them how dangerous the president is. Instead he stayed silent. …

All of his life he thought he was pushing America's interests around the world. But when he had the opportunity to do something truly important for America—to torpedo this disastrous presidency—he failed."

Bolton is slightly different from the other Bananarepublicans who support 45, as he puts money over nation rather than Party over nation. History will not be kind to any of them.

 

While it is true 45 has utter contempt for democracy and for the ideals upon which the US is based, is corrupt, self-serving, deceitful, mendacious to a pathological degree, willfully ignorant, incompetent, cowardly, childish, an accused multiple rapist and pedophile (who will face charges when outside of the silly Office of Legal Counsel 'opinion; re a "sitting POTUS"), a traitor in every way save for the legal definition (requires a declaration of war and aid and comfort to the declared enemy), and a poster boy for Dunning-Kruger Effect, those who continue to support him out of some combination of abject ignorance, psychopathology or cowardice are equally as bad. Like 45 himself, they are irredeemable and a festering, rancid blight on the nation. There is no mere ideological policy difference between those righteous in their contempt for 45 vs those who still support him; the difference is nothing less than good vs evil.

 

5 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

From The Atlantic Magazine re Bolton, his book, and what he could have done:

 

"He could have spoken to Robert Mueller. He could have given evidence in the House. He could have convened Republican Senators—they would have listened to him—to tell them how dangerous the president is. Instead he stayed silent. …

All of his life he thought he was pushing America's interests around the world. But when he had the opportunity to do something truly important for America—to torpedo this disastrous presidency—he failed."

 

Bolton is slightly different from the other Bananarepublicans who support 45, as he puts money over nation rather than Party over nation. History will not be kind to any of them.

 

While it is true 45 has utter contempt for democracy and for the ideals upon which the US is based, is corrupt, self-serving, deceitful, mendacious to a pathological degree, willfully ignorant, incompetent, cowardly, childish, an accused multiple rapist and pedophile (who will face charges when outside of the silly Office of Legal Counsel 'opinion; re a "sitting POTUS"), a traitor in every way save for the legal definition (requires a declaration of war and aid and comfort to the declared enemy), and a poster boy for Dunning-Kruger Effect, those who continue to support him out of some combination of abject ignorance, psychopathology or cowardice are equally as bad. Like 45 himself, they are irredeemable and a festering, rancid blight on the nation. There is no mere ideological policy difference between those righteous in their contempt for 45 vs those who still support him; the difference is nothing less than good vs evil.

I agree with most everything you said regarding Trump.  But whether Bolton should have testified....while I think he should have, I do wonder whether the House/Senate Republicans would have done anything.  These people are flaming cowards and would rather bury their heads in the sand than take a stand against Trump. 

4 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Nadler and Pelosi.

Right Just like Bolton says Democrats failed to go further and investigate the many trump attempts to sway the election for his political purposes. Damn twit could have actually offered so much more proof!

16 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I challenge you to publish any support where trump has Executive Privilege being used to stop Bolton. If you can't we can't trust you saying as much.

How is that laugh holding up today dundee48 Wipes that smug look off, doesn't it. LOL

15 hours ago, riclag said:

 I never said stop,Your words, stop !

 

I don't think Trump is stopping bolton. But I sure as hell hope the executive branch is vetting what he can and can't say by reviewing boltons publication!

 

 Go back to post # 46  just to see one example. Do you know whats in the book that needs to be examined! I sure as hell don't! So the office of this branch(executive branch) is vetting it with other agencies .

 

You do know there are three branches to the gov, don't you! Do you know all the laws about what former employees can divulge! Did you know there are rules and federal laws regarding , the executive branch former employees,  they sign many waivers of compliance  to rules and guidelines, 

 A employee is subjected to federal waivers involving many agencies of the federal gov.  I imagine with the office of defense(bolton being the head),it has many more,  especially dealing with private conversations and national security concerns with the  office of the Presidency.

 

There are restrictions that are in place  that are categorized, as 

as other restrictions!

"Other Restrictions, A former executive branch employee may be subject to additional restrictions imposed by agency-specific laws.

Caveat: The bullet points are not comprehensive. In general, former executive branch employees should seek advice from the Designated Agency Ethics Official or another ethics official at the agency in which the individual formerly served".

https://www.oge.gov/Web/oge.nsf/Resources/After+Leaving+Government

 

And your trust issue that you claim,lol  

 

 

So who do you trust now, YOU??  Bigly joke 

16 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I agree with most everything you said regarding Trump.  But whether Bolton should have testified....while I think he should have, I do wonder whether the House/Senate Republicans would have done anything.  These people are flaming cowards and would rather bury their heads in the sand than take a stand against Trump. 

It's come out today some senators said this was the exact information needed to remove Trump from office. Bolton sat on the fence for money. He could have volunteered the information, but instead he said the senate would have to subpoena him, and a Republican senate was never going to do that.

21 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I agree with most everything you said regarding Trump.  But whether Bolton should have testified....while I think he should have, I do wonder whether the House/Senate Republicans would have done anything.  These people are flaming cowards and would rather bury their heads in the sand than take a stand against Trump. 

Let's see what happens as 45's poll numbers fall and the effect of Bolton's book hits.

 

If it looks certain that 45 is going to lose in Nov, some Rs will begin to distance themselves from him in a vain effort to save themselves. It will likely be too late at that point, as the Senate now looks to turn Dem, too, but it will be fun to watch them scramble, lie and say, "I always knew 45 was a....blah blah blah".

 

It will be equally interesting to watch the AG, who has already engaged in behavior that will likely land him in court once 45 is gone. Will the AG decide his hole is already deep enough, put his shovel down, and stop being 45's thug? If the AG thought 45 could win re-election, he would continue to be the attack dog, figuring it would be around 5 years before he could see the inside of a jail. As the AG sees the writing on the wall, he may also begin to search for a lifeboat and let 45 sink with just his family.

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Pretty outrageous stuff that Trump was engaged in...but not surprising.  The man has no morals or core values.  Some of this stuff is textbook treason, i.e., Trump is a traitor.  So what do you call people who supports a traitor? 

If this is true it shows trump for what he really is

 

2. Trump suggested he was open to serving more than two terms

In another eye-opening exchange published in the Wall Street Journal, Trump also seems to support Xi’s idea of eliminating presidential term limits. “Xi said he wanted to work with Trump for six more years, and Trump replied that people were saying that the two-term constitutional limit on presidents should be repealed for him,” Bolton writes. “Xi said the US had too many elections, because he didn’t want to switch away from Trump, who nodded approvingly.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/john-bolton-book-trump-china-dictators-saudi-arabia

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/john-bolton-book-trump-china-dictators-saudi-arabia

Swamp life at it's finest

 

"Bolton’s book reportedly details cases where Trump tried to kill criminal investigations as favors to dictators. One incident published in the Washington Post includes a 2018 discussion with the Turkish president, Recep Erdoğan. Bolton says Erdoğan gave Trump a memo claiming that a Turkish firm under investigation in the US was innocent. “Trump then told Erdoğan he would take care of things, explaining that the southern district prosecutors were not his people, but were Obama people, a problem that would be fixed when they were replaced by his people.”

Nothing in this book should come as a surprise to anyone. For the 5th Ave ever-Trumpers and the spineless GOP maggots on Capitol Hill it doesn't matter because they sold their souls a long time ago and there's no refund.

For the rest of us it's just a confirmation of what we already know, that 45 is a criminal and a traitor.

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by Phoenix Rising

24 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Then be sure not to vote for lincoln at the election.

Or Frederick Douglass... I hear he's in with a real chance

On 6/17/2020 at 11:19 AM, Bluespunk said:

Yep. He never takes my views on board but I’m sure he listens. 

No, listening is not one of his "strengths" and is evidenced by his body language when shown in meetings etc. Nobody matters but him, and even his closest "allies" don't respect him and during Trump's 2018 meeting with North Korea's leader, according to the book, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo slipped Bolton a note disparaging the president, saying, "He is so full of <deleted>."

 

Oh and also for the record........the Trump administration stockpiled two malaria drugs that the president called a “game changer.” Now, after the F.D.A. revoked an emergency waiver for the drugs, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, officials don’t know what to do with the 66 million doses they have on hand.

 

He is a dumb "cockwomble" through and through.