Exclusive: Amid Brexit impasse, Germany urges no-deal preparations - document

[vogie]

6 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

I wouldn't touch any USA imported processed food or drinks of any kind. It's all junk, leads to obesity and diabetes 2 and, for your information, it's got zero to do with 'remainers' in my case, it's all about keeping healthy.  

 

 

2 hours ago, stephenterry said:

I expect the shambles of the Tory government headed by a puppet PM to bungle any Brexit deal in similar incompetence as mismanaging the Corona virus.  Waste of space, IMO.

 

And waste of my time even considering further comment on this subject until the marvelous chlorine chicken deal with the USA comes to fruition.

Well good for you, nice to hear you take your health very seriously, but you did single out chlorinated chicken to be fair. I think we should all count our blessings that the EU doesn't do processed foods eh.

[Rookiescot]

49 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said:

       WE won't be eating chicken, its going to be tasty Beef and Lamb from Aus and Kiwi again, which many anti brexit fans can not even remember before 1973.

You could still get "tasty beef and lamb from Aus and Kiwi" before we left.

Difference is after Brexit the only people who will be able to afford that stuff will be Conservative MP's.

Yeah I do remember the early 70's. If thats your idea of utopia then heaven help us.

[puipuitom]

Every person, who followed the real PM of teh UK, Dominic Cummins, should know, the only option is a No Deal Brexit. So be it. Donot forget to apply for your Schengen visa in time. And exchange your second house in the EU for a nice cottage in Northumberland or Cornwall ( as Wales or Scotland will not stay long together with England) 

[vogie]

1 minute ago, puipuitom said:

Every person, who followed the real PM of teh UK, Dominic Cummins, should know, the only option is a No Deal Brexit. So be it. Donot forget to apply for your Schengen visa in time. And exchange your second house in the EU for a nice cottage in Northumberland or Cornwall ( as Wales or Scotland will not stay long together with England) 

After you saying "Do not forget to apply for your Schengen visa in time" you forgot to say 'na na na na na' honestly do you really think people are bothered about trivial things like a visa. This nonsense doesn't get any better does it.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, grumpy 4680 said:

       WE won't be eating chicken, its going to be tasty Beef and Lamb from Aus and Kiwi again, which many anti brexit fans can not even remember before 1973.

Even the pro brexit have never tried Kiwi ????

[welovesundaysatspace]

 

1 minute ago, vogie said:

do you really think people are bothered about trivial things like a visa.

It’s the blue passports and the 0.1%

fishing industry that really matters! 

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, Peterphuket said:

Fact is that Unilever, a company 50% British, 50% dutch,  surely not one of the smallest, initially intended to stay in the Netherlands, has decided now to stay 100% in England.

That's wonderful, although given Brexit has cost us near on 200 Billion so far (The Economist) it ain't gonna make much difference is it.

 

The Germans realised a while back the Tory party had no intention of reaching a deal, when they sent the thick thug Frost to the table, to do the dictator of Britain -Dominic Cumming's- bidding. 

 

Who would have though the electing a cowardly, talentless, utterly idle, narcissistic old Etonian serial liar, in bondage to a heartless, arrogant career psychopath, and backed by millions from Moscow, could end so badly?

I guess we have to thank Corbyn for being the most unelectable party leader in British political history, as well.

[vogie]

13 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Every person, who followed the real PM of teh UK, Dominic Cummins, should know, the only option is a No Deal Brexit. So be it. Donot forget to apply for your Schengen visa in time. And exchange your second house in the EU for a nice cottage in Northumberland or Cornwall ( as Wales or Scotland will not stay long together with England) 

Have you any evidence that Wales & Scotland will not stay together with our union, Wales voted to leave the EU, not that it matters as it was an UK vote, and the Scots were told in no uncertain terms that another indy ref was not going to happen, in case you missed it.

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

That's wonderful, although given Brexit has cost us near on 200 Billion so far (The Economist) it ain't gonna make much difference is it.

 

The Germans realised a while back the Tory party had no intention of reaching a deal, when they sent the thick thug Frost to the table, to do the dictator of Britain -Dominic Cumming's- bidding. 

 

Who would have though the electing a cowardly, talentless, utterly idle, narcissistic old Etonian serial liar, in bondage to a heartless, arrogant career psychopath, and backed by millions from Moscow, could end so badly?

I guess we have to thank Corbyn for being the most unelectable party leader in British political history, as well.

Does being so insulting help at all?

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Chlorinated chicken is like a wilting warcry to some of the the remainers, they can't imagine for one minute that they have a freedom of choice and don't have to buy it or even eat it.

It's all about our choice but the Remainers don't want us to have any of that. Its like they actually want all the rules, regulation and decisions to be concentrated with eurocrats in Brussels. No chlorinated chicken, no free range farm chicken, only homogenised eurochick from the same approved eurosources who brought us horsemeat lasagne.
They must have a touch of Stockholm Syndrome after 40 odd years of captivity to the EU.

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

It’s the blue passports and the 0.1%

fishing industry that really matters! 

The UK fishing industry must be important to the EU, they have done nothing but talk about it, however the EU have finally realised that waters around the UK, belong to the UK and have said themselves that EU boats do not have a right to fish them.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

Have you any evidence that Wales & Scotland will not stay together with our union, Wales voted to leave the EU, not that it matters as it was an UK vote, and the Scots were told in no uncertain terms that another indy ref was not going to happen, in case you missed it.

Seen any of the polls from Scotland lately? No?

The majority want another referendum and a majority say they will vote to leave.

Thats the will of the people.

I thought you would be very supportive of that.

[evadgib]

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

It's all about our choice but the Remainers don't want us to have any of that. Its like they actually want all the rules, regulation and decisions to be concentrated with eurocrats in Brussels. No chlorinated chicken, no free range farm chicken, only homogenised eurochick from the same approved eurosources who brought us horsemeat lasagne.
They must have a touch of Stockholm Syndrome after 40 odd years of captivity to the EU.

Kevin Maguire called for another election during Skys press review this morning and was laughed into an ad break by Andrew Pearce and the host combined ????

[Nigel Garvie]

22 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Every person, who followed the real PM of teh UK, Dominic Cummins, should know, the only option is a No Deal Brexit. So be it. Donot forget to apply for your Schengen visa in time. And exchange your second house in the EU for a nice cottage in Northumberland or Cornwall ( as Wales or Scotland will not stay long together with England) 

Indeed.

 

This is the best picture I've seen to tell you exactly who these two people are, devious crooks IMHO.

Not in fact "Only fools and horses", but would you buy a used car from CUMMINGS and Johnson. 

 

The Germans don't seem so keen.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Indeed.

 

This is the best picture I've seen to tell you exactly who these two people are, devious crooks IMHO.

Not in fact "Only fools and horses", but would you buy a used car from CUMMINGS and Johnson. 

 

The Germans don't seem so keen.

Childish name calling with pictures now.????????

[Loiner]

22 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

It’s the blue passports and the 0.1%

fishing industry that really matters! 

 

Yes the blue passports are very important and they are now here!! A shoddy result is the comment from many who have received them already. That's the problem of having them contracted to a French outfit who subbed it out to another bunch in darkest Poland with cheaper production costs, therefore a cheaper product.

 

They are our fish in our waters, not European. So why is it soooo important to the EU? It's even a smaller percentage of the EU economy, so why not walk away from it, saying "Fair play, they were always the UK fish we've been stealing for years."?

[Nigel Garvie]

18 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Does being so insulting help at all?

Yes 

 

I am telling the truth as I see it about two of the most despicable people in British public life. It is OF COURSE not a personal insult to you or any other Brexiteer.

 

You will note that I included Corbyn who was similarly controlled by Milne and McClusky.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

Free trade deal, riiiiiiiiiiiight! You wanted out, now you’re out. No deal will be just fine!

 

Have a little think why the EU are working hard to get a deal, albeit a very one sided deal if possible?

 

No, not a clue, then perhaps ask an adult to explain it too you.

[nauseus]

34 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Seen any of the polls from Scotland lately? No?

The majority want another referendum and a majority say they will vote to leave.

Thats the will of the people.

I thought you would be very supportive of that.

Deja vu strikes again. 

[nauseus]

12 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Yes 

 

I am telling the truth as I see it about two of the most despicable people in British public life. It is OF COURSE not a personal insult to you or any other Brexiteer.

 

You will note that I included Corbyn who was similarly controlled by Milne and McClusky.

But you didn't call Jeremy names. Not fair.

[Baerboxer]

13 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Yes the blue passports are very important and they are now here!! A shoddy result is the comment from many who have received them already. That's the problem of having them contracted to a French outfit who subbed it out to another bunch in darkest Poland with cheaper production costs, therefore a cheaper product.

 

They are our fish in our waters, not European. So why is it soooo important to the EU? It's even a smaller percentage of the EU economy, so why not walk away from it, saying "Fair play, they were always the UK fish we've been stealing for years."?

 

Because the French do not want to ever change their habits and their governments are actually quiet scared of all those strikes.  As for Spain, their fishermen will fish anywhere they can, catch all they can and often fish where they're not supposed to and catch what they're not allowed. Neither the French or Spannish care about fish stocks, the environment or over fishing; or territorial waters etc. They are just interested in doing what they want to do.

 

For the French "it's their culture"; for the Spanish would be interesting to know who owns their fishing fleets as it's more an industrial approach.

 

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

Every person, who followed the real PM of teh UK, Dominic Cummins, should know, the only option is a No Deal Brexit. So be it. Donot forget to apply for your Schengen visa in time. And exchange your second house in the EU for a nice cottage in Northumberland or Cornwall ( as Wales or Scotland will not stay long together with England) 

 

Yeah sure. You might find several more member states don't stay long in the EU, Euro scam.

[Baerboxer]

49 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

That's wonderful, although given Brexit has cost us near on 200 Billion so far (The Economist) it ain't gonna make much difference is it.

 

The Germans realised a while back the Tory party had no intention of reaching a deal, when they sent the thick thug Frost to the table, to do the dictator of Britain -Dominic Cumming's- bidding. 

 

Who would have though the electing a cowardly, talentless, utterly idle, narcissistic old Etonian serial liar, in bondage to a heartless, arrogant career psychopath, and backed by millions from Moscow, could end so badly?

I guess we have to thank Corbyn for being the most unelectable party leader in British political history, as well.

 

Can you prove your allegations that Russia are backing the current UK PM or any of his advisors?

 

We'll assume it's just another fantasy then.

 

The fact die hard traditional Labour areas voted Conservative should tell you all you need to know about Corbyn,

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

All this just to protect the rich using tax havens and avoiding tax.

 

That's a benefit I'm sure they won't be slow to take advantage of.

 

But the real reason is that most British people don't want to be in a super EU state run by appointed bureaucrats in which elections aren't allowed to change things. They joined a free market not a federal socialist state.

 

 

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Rioting and fighting the police would be nearer to it.

 

Which has absolutely zilch to do with Brexit.

 

Nothing like a bit of false equivalence!

[nahkit]

19 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Boris and all the others promised the impossible. At least some of them were smart enough to know that even when they promised it. Who will the UK deal with if not with the EU? The USA? China? All the big players will treat the UK like the little player they are. If the UK politicians think the EU is unreasonable don't be surprised what the other will offer and demand.

 

Take back your control. Sure. What a joke!

 

Works both ways. Do you think that Germany don't want to preserve their status as the leading importer to the UK? I don't think German businesses would be too happy to lose their second biggest market in the EU (Netherlands being their top for exports).

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Seen any of the polls from Scotland lately? No?

The majority want another referendum and a majority say they will vote to leave.

Thats the will of the people.

I thought you would be very supportive of that.

 

Actually I support democracy. That would mean any massive decision taken for a country is taken by it's elected government, who are elected and reimbursed to make such decisions.

 

If they felt the decision was so fundamental and important in its consequences, they wanted to consult the electorate, then advisory referendum could be held. But that shouldn't excuse the elected politicians from doing their job.

 

I don't support a small portion of an electorate, say about 4 or 5% demanding the right to make a decision that has serious impacts and consequences for the 100%. I don't consider that democracy. It's particular politicians manipulating certain parts of the electorate for their own political agendas. 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

27 minutes ago, nahkit said:

 

Works both ways. Do you think that Germany don't want to preserve their status as the leading importer to the UK? I don't think German businesses would be too happy to lose their second biggest market in the EU (Netherlands being their top for exports).

And why do you think the UK would not import from these countries anymore?

Sure, the UK and the countries in the EU will continue doing business together. But it will get a lot more complicated for everybody involved. Who wins? Nobody! A lose/lose situation. Compared to the EU which is in general a win/win situation. Not perfect, but a lot better than whatever will come after (completed) Brexit.

[dunroaming]

7 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

Free trade deal, riiiiiiiiiiiight! You wanted out, now you’re out. No deal will be just fine!

There is no plan for Britain to make a trade deal.  Cummings and his lapdog Johnson have made that clear.  They will pay lip service to Parliament but with their majority they can do just what they want to do and screw the rest of us.

 

But given that the original Brexit campaign was that we would get a fabulous, easiest ever trade deal if we left, you would think most Brexiteers would be disappointed with that promise (like all the others) being tossed out of the window.  Apparently not though. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 hour ago, nahkit said:

 

Works both ways. Do you think that Germany don't want to preserve their status as the leading importer to the UK? I don't think German businesses would be too happy to lose their second biggest market in the EU (Netherlands being their top for exports).

1. Germany isn’t an “importer to the UK”. 

2. Germany exports something like 7-8% to the UK, whereas it imports a huge double-digit percentage to the single market. The same is the case for the other EU27. Guess where their priority will be — on the 7% UK market, or the double-digit single market? 

 

3. The UK imports quite heavily from the EU. 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 18, 2020 by welovesundaysatspace