Atlanta police officer charged with murder in shooting death of Rayshard Brooks

[nausea]

8 minutes ago, digger70 said:

White cops to Deal White people/crims/problems. 

 Black cops to Deal Black people/crims /problems    

Indeed, segregation seems the only answer, goodbye civil rights movement, some phrase seems to spring to mind - if you can't stand the heat don't go into the kitchen. Total rubbish, of course, I've met black guys who were cleverer than me, stupider than me, bigger than me, smaller than me; but expecting a pass based purely on race or skin colour, nah, not gonna happen, without segregation. But for your average guy, who's going nowhere, yeah, maybe it seems a good idea. Within your little ghetto you may become someone. 

[Baerboxer]

6 hours ago, whaleboneman said:

It may be time for America to change its police force from white to black.

 

There are considerable numbers of black officers and retired officers.

 

Like the retired police captain shot and killed by a black looter robbing his friend's store. Or the black state trooper who refused to kneel before BLM protesters saying he only kneels for God.

 

 

[wwest5829]

9 hours ago, smutcakes said:

The kneeling on the neck on is as clear as day murder.

 

IMO this one has far more grey area to it. The police were being nice as pie, then for some reason he resisted arrest, through what looked like a few punches, stole a tazer, bolted before turning and pointing the tazer at the officer.... it was all very strange as prior to that it looked like a big standard arrest with both parties acting properly.

 

I think there is enough doubt and grey area in this one, far more than the kneeling on neck one.

Which is why a citizen Grand Jury will decide if there is enough evidence that warrants a trial. A separate Trial Jury will make the determination as to guilt, extenuating circumstances were involved and whether deadly force was needed.

[bodga]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Right now it's all speculation. But in the mean time lets throw a noose around the white cop to appease the blacks.

Coming  soon all cops to be disarmed then  rearmed with environmentally friendly  feather dusters and strict guidance on when/how to use them. 

[bodga]

4 hours ago, digger70 said:

Atlanta police officer charged with murder in shooting death of Rayshard Brooks 

 

What's the cop suppose to do? Wait till he get Shot/Killed. To late then, Can't shoot back when Badly Hurt /Dead. 

Never should've been charged . There won't be too many cops soon if they can't Protect /Defend themselves. 

From now on Have white cops and Black cops in the cop car . 

 White cops to Deal White people/crims/problems. 

 Black cops to Deal Black people/crims /problems    

You never   hear  much about  yellow  lives  matter? Mainly because they just get on with it.

[faraday]

1 minute ago, bodga said:

Coming  soon all cops to be disarmed then  rearmed with environmentally friendly  feather dusters and strict guidance on when/how to use them. 

Correction:

 

Vegan feather dusters.

 

 

[worgeordie]

It's like the Wild Wild west, shoot first ask questions later.

regards worgeordie

[bodga]

2 minutes ago, faraday said:

Correction:

 

Vegan feather dusters.

 

 

ooops  my  bad☹️

[bodga]

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

It's like the Wild Wild west, shoot first ask questions later.

regards worgeordie

Why waste  time with questions

[tribalfusion001]

Excessive force, the man was running away and the cop shot him in the back twice. Yes he should not have resisted arrest and stole the taser, but hardly warranted him being shot dead.

[sirineou]

A sacrificial lamb .

If they did not charge him, there would had been more rioting,more violence, and more headaches for the politicians.  Even though they know there is little chance of conviction, charge him now, let things Seattle, and by the time this  this comes to trial, if it ever comes to trial . this case will be off the radar, and passions will have settled. 

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Excessive force, the man was running away and the cop shot him in the back twice. Yes he should not have resisted arrest and stole the taser, but hardly warranted him being shot dead.

Yes it doesn't get more excessive than that. 

Shooting a running away man in the back. 

Not only murder but cold blooded murder. 

[riclag]

9 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

He should have eaten before getting pass out drunk.

Have you ever waited in line at these places. Probably understaffed. Hey ,don't forget this guy could fall back to sleep with a cop telling him to move! Back in the day , I would of obeyed his every instructions.

 

8 hours ago, BTB1977 said:

He took the taser and shot it back at the police officer.  But you can't slant the truth if you include all the information leading up to the shooting.  Nice fake article Thai visa.  Why can't you ever present all the facts.  

Don't blame TV  for the article

 

9 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

1) The Atlanta Police Department is 58% Black.  

2) The kicking of Brooks after he was shot has not been proven.  The DA blew up a still photo of Rolfe with one leg bent as he stood over Brooks.  

3) The DA said : Brooks did not display “aggressive behavior” He also said in the recent past that a Taser is a deadly weapon.  He said this after 6 Atlanta Officer were fired for using a Taser during the the George Floyd Protest.   

4) Officers get complaint from the public and from supervisors. But not all police complaints are justified.  

5) Rolfe’s BodyCam footage indicates Rolfe rendered first aid to Brooks after he shot him.

 

 

I doubt this trial will happen anytime soon and definitely it will not be in Fulton County.  Let’s see if Rolfe get’s a “jury of his peers”?  

 

 

Do you have sources for this. Thats not meant to be sarcastic either!

[ChouDoufu]

6 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Actually the incident lasted almost an hour and he never presented a threat or was anything but respectful - for most part police were the same.  But senior police decided to make an arrest for DUI for something other officer had ordered him to do (move car to parking spot) when they knew (or should have known) he was not fit to drive (and spent almost an hour trying to prove it).  The only DUI they had observed was that 50 foot police ordered parking.

you are incorrect.

 

when the first officer approched him, he was in the driver's seat, with the keys in the ignition.  i'm not sure about that model car, but the lights on the dash were on, indicating to me that the engine was still running.  regardless, he was in control of the vehicle and drunk.  that is grounds for arrest.

[sirineou]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes it doesn't get more excessive than that. 

Shooting a running away man in the back. 

Not only murder but cold blooded murder. 

So if a criminal wants to shoot at cops all he has to do is turn his back to them and he is safe? " he is pointing a weapon at me what to do?" " well you cant shoot him, his back is turned to you, wait until he turns around"  

[riclag]

7 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Actually the incident lasted almost an hour and he never presented a threat or was anything but respectful - for most part police were the same.  But senior police decided to make an arrest for DUI for something other officer had ordered him to do (move car to parking spot) when they knew (or should have known) he was not fit to drive (and spent almost an hour trying to prove it).  The only DUI they had observed was that 50 foot police ordered parking.

The guy was dui just by sitting in the car with the keys in the ignition, he resisted arrest, he committed a felony by striking a officer!

He stole a deadly weapon from one of the officers and pointed it and shot at the other officer . I personally believe the officer should of shot his legs out!  The murder charge won't stick!

https://www.georgiacriminallawyer.com/obstruction-of-a-law-enforcement-officer

 

 Georgia code on deadly force, 17-4-20 states that:

deadly force to apprehend a suspected felon only when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury; when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect poses an immediate threat of physical violence to the officer or others; or when there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm. 

http://www.djj.state.ga.us/policies/DJJPolicies/Chapter19/Attachments/DJJ19.3AttachmentA.pdf

Edited June 18, 2020 by riclag

[ChouDoufu]

14 hours ago, webfact said:

Former Atlanta Police Department officer Garrett Rolfe, who was fired after the shooting death of 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks, poses in an undated photograph released in Atlanta, Georgia, U.S. June 14, 2020. Atlanta Police Department/Handout via REUTERS

 

ATLANTA (Reuters) - A fired Atlanta police officer has been charged with felony murder and another officer faces lesser charges

 

this is just public relations.  the city can't legally fire the officer without a hearing. they can put him behind a desk.  maybe suspend him without pay, although i doubt it.

 

there IS an investigation ongoing, not complete.  what is the DA doing filing charges without even a preliminary report?  the GBI said they weren't even aware of the DA's decision to file charges, and were not consulted before the press conference.  the DA says he's seen enough video, so an full investigation is not warranted. 

 

seems this is just a ploy to keep the vandals and looters off the streets in the short term.  in other words... "please don't burn the city down."

 

the DA is also claiming the first officer is willing to testify against the second, something which the officer's lawyer denies. 

 

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/gbi-officers-charged-but-investigation-into-rayshard-brooks-shooting-not-complete

 

 

and here's an interesting tidbit.  the DA, howard, has a runoff election scheduled for august.    that explains the pandering to the mob.

 

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/longtime-fulton-forced-into-run-off-former-chief-deputy/NvlPNDfSPY2Z3SwTHV2C7M/

 

 

[Bob A Kneale]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Thugs huh? 

You mean like white cops shoving over frail 75 year old men? 

You mean like one white officer shoving over one 75-year old white man.  There was no plurality or reported frailty.

[Bob A Kneale]

10 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Proof about the kicking accusation. I know you hear about it same as me but no proof.

You're right, there has been no proof and the allegation has been strongly refuted.

[Bob A Kneale]

10 hours ago, MJKT2014 said:

Interesting why the initial friendly meeting of 45 minutes turns into a runaway killing, the news isn't coming out with the motive for running that I have noticed much

He was on licence from prison after convictions for a number of offences and at the moment that he failed the sobriety and breath tests he realised that he'd be going straight back to prison.

[riclag]

11 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

this is just public relations.  the city can't legally fire the officer without a hearing. they can put him behind a desk.  maybe suspend him without pay, although i doubt it.

 

there IS an investigation ongoing, not complete.  what is the DA doing filing charges without even a preliminary report?  the GBI said they weren't even aware of the DA's decision to file charges, and were not consulted before the press conference.  the DA says he's seen enough video, so an full investigation is not warranted. 

 

seems this is just a ploy to keep the vandals and looters off the streets in the short term.  in other words... "please don't burn the city down."

 

the DA is also claiming the first officer is willing to testify against the second, something which the officer's lawyer denies. 

 

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/gbi-officers-charged-but-investigation-into-rayshard-brooks-shooting-not-complete

 

 

and here's an interesting tidbit.  the DA, howard, has a runoff election scheduled for august.    that explains the pandering to the mob.

 

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/longtime-fulton-forced-into-run-off-former-chief-deputy/NvlPNDfSPY2Z3SwTHV2C7M/

 

 

 A couple of weeks ago the same DA was using this  in conjunction with a tazer

"Aggravated assault in Georgia is described as assault “with a deadly weapon or with any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury.”

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/attorney-says-da-rushed-charge-officers-involved-tasing-college-students/Y3RHMIZ2ZNCC7HA723UGEKQS54/

 

Its seems he just contradicted himself and made a mockery of Atlanta' law 

Edited June 18, 2020 by riclag

[lopburi3]

42 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

you are incorrect.

 

when the first officer approched him, he was in the driver's seat, with the keys in the ignition.  i'm not sure about that model car, but the lights on the dash were on, indicating to me that the engine was still running.  regardless, he was in control of the vehicle and drunk.  that is grounds for arrest.

The basis of arrest was suspected blowing positive on test more than 40 minutes later and driving from point A to parking area witnessed by 1st officer from what was said on tape.  Shooting officer made clear first officer was witness when subject said they had not seen him driving under influence.  

[Bob A Kneale]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Mr. Brooks was no cop killer. He wanted a freakin burger! 

And he'd have got his burger if he hadn't been drunk and passed out at the wheel of his car.

[Bob A Kneale]

10 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Subject was unarmed and had been searched by officers.  They had full knowledge what it was as during arrest scuffle he obtained officers taser and that was immediately shouted out by officer.

While fleeing he reportedly fired taser.

Police shot him multiple times in the back while more than 5 meters away and no threat.

Police kicked and stood on shoot suspect rather than providing medical attention.

He was armed, with a stolen police Taser.

In Georgia a Taser is considered to be a deadly weapon.

He was shot two times, not your exaggerated "multiple" times, after he fired a stolen, deadly weapon at the police officer.

There is no evidence that he was kicked or stood on after being shot, that has been refuted.

There is specific evidence of the police providing CPR.

Edited June 18, 2020 by Bob A Kneale

[ChouDoufu]

2 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

The basis of arrest was suspected blowing positive on test more than 40 minutes later and driving from point A to parking area witnessed by 1st officer from what was said on tape.  Shooting officer made clear first officer was witness when subject said they had not seen him driving under influence.  

 

you don't understand the law.  being drunk and in control of the vehicle are grounds for arrest.  he's found drunk behind the wheel with the keys in the ignition.   even the "i wasn't driving" defense would be hard to, um, defend, cause, like...how did the car get into the drive thru line if he wasn't driving it?

 

try the googles:

 

https://www.lawyerlocator.com/dui-dwi/arrested-for-dui-even-if-you-are-not-driving

 

https://www.wklaw.com/get-dui-werent-driving-vehicle/

[Bob A Kneale]

10 hours ago, stevenl said:

10 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Subject was unarmed and had been searched by officers.  They had full knowledge what it was as during arrest scuffle he obtained officers taser and that was immediately shouted out by officer.

While fleeing he reportedly fired taser.

Police shot him multiple times in the back while more than 5 meters away and no threat.

Police kicked and stood on shoot suspect rather than providing medical attention.

I think that is a very good summary.

"A very good summary" of what, a complete distortion and exaggeration of what the videos actually showed?

[Bob A Kneale]

9 hours ago, johnpetersen said:

What is fake is your assertion that Brooks fired the taser.

The video shows Brooks firing the Taser at the officer!

[metisdead]

A personal attack post has been removed. 

 

Some troll posts and replies have been removed. 

[Bob A Kneale]

9 hours ago, johnpetersen said:

Nice try at having it both ways. What don't you understand about the fact that he was shot in the back from a distance of 5 meters while running away?

What don't you understand about the fact that he was shot after turning around and firing the Taser, a deadly weapon, at the officer?

[Bob A Kneale]

9 hours ago, johnpetersen said:

No. He didn't fire the taser.

Yes, he did.