Thai Immigration announce changes to TM30 reporting

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Thai Immigration announce changes to TM30 reporting 

 

 

Thailand’s Immigration Bureau have announced an update to the requirement for TM30 reporting. 

 

The new update clarifies when a TM30 report is due under section 38 of the Immigration Act.

 

The key part of the announcement for expats, an unofficial translation of which can be found below, can be found under section 2.2

 

2.2 After the house holder, owner or possessor of the premise of hotel

manager has reported as defined in Article 2.1, the same alien has left the premise and

returned for another stay within the valid period, the house holder, owner or possessor

of the premise of hotel manager do not need to make another report;

The alien as defined in paragraph one shall include those who

being granted multiple-visa who leaves and returns to the Kingdom with specified

time in the visa, and those with re-entry permit.

 

Previously, most immigration offices in Thailand wanted a new TM30 report within 24 hours every time a person left and reentered the country. This change eliminates that requirement.

 

The second paragraph is stating that if a person on a multiple entry visa or has an extension of stay and enters using a re-entry permit a new TM30 report is not required.

 

The new rule apparently does not apply to those on visa exempt entries and single entry visas of any category unless they left and re-entered using a re-entry permit during the original entry from it.

 

The law regarding TM30 states that the landlord, property owner or manager (in the case of a hotel or guesthouse) has a legal obligation to report the stay of a non-Thai at their property. 

 

The law has been in place since 1979 but was seldom enforced until 2019, when immigration began cracking down on property owners who were not reporting the stay of foreigners.

 

The latest announcement was posted on the Chiang Mai immigration website and comes into effect from 30 June 2020. 

Edit: Now posted on Immigration Bureau website. https://www.immigration.go.th/read?content_id=5ef48af54d69ab1c9c5be709

Link does not work now after immigration redid there website last night. See numbers 33 and 34 for downloads of regulation here.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/981135-laws-regulations-police-orders-etc/

 

TM30 reports can be made in person or online via the immigration website or mobile app: https://www.immigration.go.th/content/online_serivces

 

 

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Edited June 27, 2020 by ubonjoe
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[Somtamnication]

Just a pig fly! Oh! There it goes!

[sprq]

Common sense breaks out at the Immigration Dept. Let's hope it's infectious.

[MadMac]

They have too much time at hand it appears, someone even started thinking ????

[DrTuner]

Quote

within the valid period

What valid period?

 

Could they not run it through an actual lawyer... in any case, too little, too late. Expats will remember this "hospitality" for years to come.

[holy cow cm]

Maybe 90 day reporting will be tossed out as well. But for TM30, I don't hink many of us will be flying anywhere for quite awhile now.

[keithet]

so this is just if you leave the country and then re-enter to your same address? 

What about if just go to another province for a week and then return to same address? 

[Puchaiyank]

Very troubling...Immigration acting rationally!

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

What valid period?

I assume you mean this "returned for another stay within the valid period". It is within the validity of your temporary permit to stay.

[Seismic]

6 minutes ago, keithet said:

so this is just if you leave the country and then re-enter to your same address? 

What about if just go to another province for a week and then return to same address? 

That is the question that most of us would like answered !

[JusticeGB]

7 minutes ago, Seismic said:

That is the question that most of us would like answered !

Pattaya Immigration told me in February that if I stayed, say in Bangkok, and then returned to my condo no re registration was required. It was only required if I went abroad. Now that requirement has been removed. 

[ubonjoe]

24 minutes ago, keithet said:

so this is just if you leave the country and then re-enter to your same address? 

What about if just go to another province for a week and then return to same address? 

No report for staying in hotel and etc if you return to your reported address is needed.

That is very clear in 2.2 of the regulation.

[timendres]

21 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Very troubling...Immigration acting rationally!

COVID-19 delirium has set in...

[Max69xl]

32 minutes ago, keithet said:

so this is just if you leave the country and then re-enter to your same address? 

What about if just go to another province for a week and then return to same address? 

Same thing of course. The last reported address is the key word. 

[Lacessit]

Surely if one of us "aliens" has a lease on a condo for one or more years, that should be proof that's where we intend to stay for the duration of the contract. Hence a 90 day report is superfluous. Same with someone living in a house in their Thai wife's name.

 

[Max69xl]

"Previously, most immigration offices in Thailand wanted a new TM30 report within 24 hours every time a person left and reentered the country. This change eliminates that requirement."

We have to return to the last reported address. If not, a TM30 will still be needed. 

[cyril sneer]

so we still have to do it when moving house within Thailand? this was the only thing that ever bothered me about the TM30

[Dellboy218]

1 hour ago, sprq said:

Common sense breaks out at the Immigration Dept. Let's hope it's infectious.

If they had that it would be scrapped altogether. 

[RobertHima]

When you extend your visa, and you are outside the original "valid period" when the TM30 was filed while on your previous extension, do you have to file a new TM30 with your new "valid period" in 24 hours?

[WineOh]

What’s a TM 30?

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, Liverpoolfan said:

What’s a TM 30?

There is a pic of one in the OP.

It is a report of your arrival at a residence by the owner or possessor of it.

[Titan1962]

Well any amendment to the TM30 is a step in the right direction,but still confused I am. My wife and I own our home in Chiang Mai,she submitted the TM30 to inform immigration that I live at the property she owns arghhh. We have been considering doing a road trip to Sukhothai,Tak,Hua hin,phuket and back,about 6 weeks in total. Upon our return to our home in CM does she need to re submit the TM30 to tell them I am back at home and my permanent address. 
The other amendment could be,people that live here on a permanent basis like myself,Retirement visa should only need to inform immigration once you change your permanent address. Taking one less drama out of the equation.

Edited June 23, 2020 by Titan1962

[madmitch]

Could this concession be part of the domestic tourism drive?

[ubonjoe]

12 minutes ago, RobertHima said:

When you extend your visa, and you are outside the original "valid period" when the TM30 was filed while on your previous extension, do you have to file a new TM30 with your new "valid period" in 24 hours?

You would have to be outside the country if your temporary permit to stay was not valid or on a overstay.

When you apply for a extension of stay it extends your stay. No need for another TM30 report.

[ubonjoe]

 

7 minutes ago, madmitch said:

Could this concession be part of the domestic tourism drive?

No

It is a long overdue official clarification of when a TM30 report is required.

[ubonjoe]

12 minutes ago, Titan1962 said:

Upon our return to our home in CM does she need to re submit the TM30 to tell them I am back at home and my permanent address. 

No

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

What valid period?

 

I read that to mean, only needing to report once for the same location during the duration of one's ME visa or re-entry permit, which would mean once per year...

 

But after a person renews their extension and re-entry permit annually and then leaves the country and returns (in some distant world) after that, then a new TM30 would be required???

 

[ubonjoe]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

But after a person renews their extension and re-entry permit annually and then leaves the country and returns (in some distant world) after that, then a new TM30 would be required???

None would be needed unless you changed your permanent place of residence.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

None would be needed unless you changed your permanent place of residence.

 Ya, I saw your comment above... Just wonder if that's the way various IO's will actually interpret it. Time will tell.

 

AFAIK, my annual extensions of stay and re-entry permits are not "extended."  They run one year and they expire... And in order to remain, I have to apply for new ones before the old ones expire, AKA, lose their "validity".

 

 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sapson]

1 hour ago, keithet said:

so this is just if you leave the country and then re-enter to your same address? 

What about if just go to another province for a week and then return to same address? 

Do absolutely nothing why would you report returning to same address which hasnt changed.

 

Waste of your time and immigrations to go to an office, kick back chill have a beer or glass of wine.