Trump takes hard line on U.S. monuments, threatens force against protesters

[OZinPattaya]

14 hours ago, Dap said:

Ok, I agree it is not a majority in the streets (is Hong Kong?) but it is people making a stand against bigotry and racism in many places around the world and I feel is overdue and large enough to make a noticeable statement, possibly resulting in meaningful change. Violence (police) is a thug mentality and I see no one being hurt by tearing down the symbols that glorify the subjugation of humanity in any form. 

You might actually want to spend five minutes studying whatever country's history before green-lighting the destruction of its monuments in the name of "the subjugation of humanity." It must be a nice, warm, cozy feeling to live in such a morally and historically unambiguous universe. Children are normally granted that privilege because we want to protect them from reality. But I assume you're an adult, right?

 

On a side note, I'm not sure why a leader of a country, who vows to protect such historical monuments from wanton, and decidedly undemocratic, destruction, should be characterized as taking a "hard-line" stance on the matter. Can we get one article on this forum where the political conclusion isn't contained in the headline? Before all this nonsense began, I seem to recall a time when the destruction of property not your own was considered illegal and punishable by law. Call me a "hard-liner." The fact is Trump has been far too lenient.

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by OZinPattaya

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/24/2020 at 12:48 PM, PremiumLane said:

you should read some history, nothing changed without protest, and I don't mean the walking around asking for permission kind of protest. You should also read MLK's Letter From Birmingham Jail, he was very clear what he thought about people who are more concerned with 'order' than justice

LOL.

Those vandals and hooligans are not trying to bring about a better world- all they want to do is riot and break things.

Without "order" society breaks down and everyone gets hurt.

 

You go Donald, give the thugs a message even they understand.

[OZinPattaya]

28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL.

Those vandals and hooligans are not trying to bring about a better world- all they want to do is riot and break things.

Without "order" society breaks down and everyone gets hurt.

 

You go Donald, give the thugs a message even they understand.

"A message even they understand"--the only message they can understand, which is a commensurate use of force. They only understand force, therefore give them force. The only question is when the right-wing will understand this and oblige them.

[johnpetersen]

40 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL.

Those vandals and hooligans are not trying to bring about a better world- all they want to do is riot and break things.

Without "order" society breaks down and everyone gets hurt.

 

You go Donald, give the thugs a message even they understand.

Have you noticed that, despite all Trump's bluster, in fact he's going nowhere.

[Saint Nick]

On 6/25/2020 at 11:25 AM, Canuck1966 said:

He resisted arrest FACT

 

Not one of those cops will go down in a court of law

Once they prove excited delirium syndrome the case will be thrown out

They did what they were trained to do...by the book 

 

Restraining the suspect on his or her abdomen (prone restraint) is a common tactic in ExDS situations, and the white paper used by the MPD instructs the officers to control the suspect until paramedics arrive.

Not a fact...but that has been explained a hundred times!

As for the rest of your gibberish: 

the fact that you gloat about not one of the cops "go down", is very telling!

Because even IF he resisted arrest: everything that follows is absolutely inhumane and everybody who says, this was right or good is him/herself inhumane!

 

Kneeling on someone's neck (don't know, about your biology- classes, but I have no idea, where you think the abdomen is located!) for 8+ minutes and another 2+ after every sign of life has left the body, being BEGGED by bystanders and just not react in anyway, is MURDER in my eyes!

But I give you that: they absolutely controlled the supsect until the paramedics arrived!

 

I hope, this happens to you one day!

[Saint Nick]

 

 

On 6/25/2020 at 1:13 PM, Baerboxer said:

 

So you're o k with terrorist activities to bring about change?

 

Presumably only the changes you happen to agree with. What if Biden wins, is declared mentally unfit and his chosen running mate "a woman of colour" becomes POTUS and starts implementing massive racially discrimination laws aimed at black privilege whilst oppressing white, latinos and native Americans. Would you support terrorism, lawlessness, riots and mass looting to protest against her?

What if my grandma had wheels?

Oh yeah...she would be a bus!

[Saint Nick]

21 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Creepy Joe has to come out of the basement at some point

I think he will just collapse in the debates.

He literally doesn't make any sense when he opens his mouth

Incoherent babbling old pervert

Wait...is Creepy Joe Trumps new nickmane?

Because that man is exactly who you are describing!

Creepy, making no sense, incoherent, babbling and a pervert!

Glashouses...and all that!

[Dap]

19 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

You might actually want to spend five minutes studying whatever country's history before green-lighting the destruction of its monuments in the name of "the subjugation of humanity." It must be a nice, warm, cozy feeling to live in such a morally and historically unambiguous universe. Children are normally granted that privilege because we want to protect them from reality. But I assume you're an adult, right?

 

On a side note, I'm not sure why a leader of a country, who vows to protect such historical monuments from wanton, and decidedly undemocratic, destruction, should be characterized as taking a "hard-line" stance on the matter. Can we get one article on this forum where the political conclusion isn't contained in the headline? Before all this nonsense began, I seem to recall a time when the destruction of property not your own was considered illegal and punishable by law. Call me a "hard-liner." The fact is Trump has been far too lenient.

 

I don't agree.

[metisdead]

A post with a link to a questionable source has been removed. 

[Dap]

On 6/26/2020 at 5:39 AM, johnpetersen said:

Have you noticed that, despite all Trump's bluster, in fact he's going nowhere.

And getting nothing done.

[EVENKEEL]

A little justice for the protestors