Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 20 hours ago, Canuck1966 said: But you support defunding the police, breaking down the nuclear family, releasing thousands and thousands of criminals from prison etc etc? As an (interested) observer - as I assume you are - is it not entirely possible that one can dislike, despise and oppose Mr Trump's words, policies and actions without supporting the breakdown of the nuclear family, refunding the police or mass prison releases? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phulublub Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, MyTHaiMyKe said: 95% of the people on this forum that are making comments here are not from the USA, so they have no knowledge what they are talking about! ??? So only people from the USA have any knowledge? Strange presumption indeed. And utterly wrong. PH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teatime101 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, J Town said: He's running as an Independent. If he is, that's not good news for Trump. Not sure how large the black Republican vote is, but Kanye has been a mate of Trump's for a while. 27 minutes ago, simple1 said: he will probably take some votes away from the Democrats. Maybe... Edited July 5, 2020 by teatime101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, teatime101 said: If he is, that's not good news for Trump. Not sure how large the black Republican vote is, but Kanye has been a mate of Trump's for a while. Maybe... I don't see any votes going from Trump to West, but I do see votes going from Democrats to West? I think it is a ploy of the Trump campaign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. Seems that if one doesn't hate Trump on here one is labelled as rightwing extremist, racist, fascist, stupid etc. I don't see much calm debate happening, and no acceptance of an opposing viewpoint. Seems like you're either cherry-picking or simply don't bother to read exchanges before commenting. The poster I replied to insists on labeling anyone not agreeing with his point of view "far left" and such, almost regardless of what they actually post. My replies were related to that. Further, I do not usually apply the wide brush claim to all Trump supporters. The terms you picked do not feature much in my posts. As for going on about "calm debate", or "acceptance of opposing viewpoint", that holds for either side of the political divide. Don't see you having much issues with that other than in a partisan manner - never mind practicing what you preach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said: As a base trump supporter you really shouldn't go there. Good job, you don't even know what you're replying to. Go take a nap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Rising Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Good job, you don't even know what you're replying to. Go take a nap. It went over your head? Why am I not surprised. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Some off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Srikcir said: The American Revolution was led by the left-wing culturalists who defied an authoritarian monarchy, who looked towards a new experiment called the People's Democracy to found a new independent nation. If Trump had lived during those times it wouldn't be farfetched that he would have been a Tory to sustain the king's power over the American colonies and bring the rule of British law to suppress the American Revolution. Are you insinuating Trump got something to do with....ideology? Better lawyer up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, MyTHaiMyKe said: When I was brought up my parents taught me that if you have nothing good to say about somebody, you are better off saying nothing! 95% of the people on this forum that are making comments here are not from the USA, so they have no knowledge what they are talking about! It is either jealousy or mr booze talking! Funny how you don't seem all that upset about the President failing to follow your parents' advice. Being from the USA is not required in order to participate in these topics, nor does it being from other countries imply having no knowledge on matters discussed. Again, don't see you having much issues with them nosy foreigners commenting - when views expressed align with yours. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Orton Rd said: I'm sure that was a big comfort to Mrs Kennedy and Hillary I'm sure you care. Much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Tie Dye Samurai said: Dont insult Harpo Marx...he was a comedic genius.....a stable comedic genius at that. 3 hours ago, teatime101 said: Harpo married actress Susan Fleming on September 28, 1936. The wedding became public knowledge after President Franklin D. Roosevelt sent the couple a telegram of congratulations the following month. Harpo's marriage, like Gummo's, was lifelong. (Groucho was divorced three times, Zeppo twice, Chico once.) The couple adopted four children: Bill, Alex, Jimmy, and Minnie. When he was asked by George Burns in 1948 how many children he planned to adopt, he answered, "I’d like to adopt as many children as I have windows in my house. So when I leave for work, I want a kid in every window, waving goodbye." His musical talent extended to beyond the harp, to piano, clarinet, etc...all mostly learned independent of professional instruction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpo_Marx What a guy. Marxists! On this forum! So the Trump supporters were right after all.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. Seems that if one doesn't hate Trump on here one is labelled as rightwing extremist, racist, fascist, stupid etc. I don't see much calm debate happening, and no acceptance of an opposing viewpoint. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a raciest-extremist. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 hours ago, Throatwobbler said: Watching Trump's speech it is obvious that he has given up. So low energy. His attacks were given in a low monotone voice. I think that Tulsa rally has destroyed him. He does not want to be doing this anymore. Any takers on the bet he quits on Labor Day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a raciest-extremist. Or donald duck. Which seems apt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 35 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Any takers on the bet he quits on Labor Day? No chance, the prospects of jail are too big. He'll stay, and if he loses complain about rigged elections. And his fans will believe everything he utters. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, MyTHaiMyKe said: When I was brought up my parents taught me that if you have nothing good to say about somebody, you are better off saying nothing! 95% of the people on this forum that are making comments here are not from the USA, so they have no knowledge what they are talking about! It is either jealousy or mr booze talking! Which is why people on the right were so respectful of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, among others. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpetersen Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Now I know you're a troll, I made no claim but if you actually read correctly you'd know, perhaps some reading comprehension courses would help. I don't know if you were using "you" in a plural sense or just directed either at me or barmbeker. At any rate, I assumed that barmbeker was quoting you because he use quotation marks. That was a mistaken assumption. But if you're accusing me of being a troll on account of that, well, that's nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just for comparison's sake, here are links to some of Barack Obama's 4th of July speeches. During the time the birther movement headed by Donald Trump was questioning his right even to be President. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/04/remarks-president-4th-july-celebration https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/05/remarks-president-fourth-july-celebration https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/04/remarks-president-fourth-july-celebration Just the slightest difference in tone from President Trump's. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GalaxyMan Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, stevenl said: No chance, the prospects of jail are too big. It's the only real reason that he's running. ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: Just for comparison's sake, here are links to some of Barack Obama's 4th of July speeches. During the time the birther movement headed by Donald Trump was questioning his right even to be President. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/04/remarks-president-4th-july-celebration https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/05/remarks-president-fourth-july-celebration https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/04/remarks-president-fourth-july-celebration Just the slightest difference in tone from President Trump's. Of course. Obama is a mensch. 45 is a shyster. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RickG16 Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said: That is a laughable post you made and makes mw wonder why in hell you know of why Biden is "capable of losing the election". Contrasted to my post regarding Biden “Respect science, respect nature, respect each other.” Please enlighten me as to any point you may think of defending such BS? Because Trump is lying, borderline maniac. But somehow they found an opponent who plays to his strengths.... Age: Trump is 73, 'I know let's find someone 5 years older, who very possibly might not be able to see through his first term'. Communicator: now Trump is certainly no match for Obama, but you could argue he is a more engaging speaker than Biden, who seems to mumble a lot of the time. At 78 I don't blame him! IMO looking and sounding good on TV is what wins the US election. For this reason, Biden isn't the ideal candidate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joecoolfrog Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 Well the truly important issues of healthcare , the economy and a horrendously mismanaged pandemic are ignored because Trump is losing support daily because of them. So instead we get a rant aimed at bolstering his ever decreasing base. Desperate fling from a desperate president and everybody bar his most rabid monkeys can see right through it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, RickG16 said: Because Trump is lying, borderline maniac. But somehow they found an opponent who plays to his strengths.... Age: Trump is 73, 'I know let's find someone 5 years older, who very possibly might not be able to see through his first term'. Communicator: now Trump is certainly no match for Obama, but you could argue he is a more engaging speaker than Biden, who seems to mumble a lot of the time. At 78 I don't blame him! IMO looking and sounding good on TV is what wins the US election. For this reason, Biden isn't the ideal candidate. Have you watched Trump being interviewed? He seems incapable of answering a simple question or citing facts to back up what he says. It's pretty clear he's got a bad case of ADHD and is cognitively impaired. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: Have you watched Trump being interviewed? He seems incapable of answering a simple question or citing facts to back up what he says. It's pretty clear he's got a bad case of ADHD and is cognitively impaired. And THOSE are his GOOD points. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 17 hours ago, whaleboneman said: Whenever Trump speaks I find it entertaining...in a sad comedic way. This is typical trump speak and is right on the mark.........had to laugh when I read it. Hey, I met with that guy Francis today. He's a Pope; a really great, great Pope. You know he's the leader of the Catholic Church. The church, big, big, big church. I couldn't believe it when he told me about how many Catholics there are out there. Way more than I thought they have churches all over the world; some are very, very close (so close) to my hotels and my great golf courses. "He took me to the Sistine Chapel. Beautiful ceilings I don't think too many people even know about this place. The paintings are great, phenomenal paintings I'm telling you. The Pope (right guy, by the way, I think it he knows more about the Bible than almost anybody and, we got along great, I really think he likes me). Well he told me the whole thing was painted by this young Italian guy; I think his name is Michael Angelo. At least that's what Francis (we are great friends) called him, I think. "Trust me, we're going to hear more about this young guy Michael whoever. He's really artistic, and everybody tells me I have the greatest eye for the best art. I told Frank I'd like to buy him some of Mike's art. I asked him if Mike's done anything on velvet. He'll check (great guy). I'll hang Mike staff at Mar-a- Lago or Trump Tower. He needs more exposure. It's too much with the churches he could paint my phenomenal presidential portrait on the Capitol dome. Or maybe a mural on my big, beautiful border wall, but just on our side. Unbelievable!! The fake media is now at it again! I just saw something on TV that reckoned Michael died 450 years ago. Sad. Very sad, y'know, I've already got some people looking into this.....and you won't believe what they're finding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickG16 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: Have you watched Trump being interviewed? He seems incapable of answering a simple question or citing facts to back up what he says. It's pretty clear he's got a bad case of ADHD and is cognitively impaired. But he produces good soundbites and to the general electorate I think that's what matters. Look... This isn't about praising Trump, it's about finding someone to beat him. Tell me why you think Biden is 'that guy'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RickG16 said: But he produces good soundbites and to the general electorate I think that's what matters. Look... This isn't about praising Trump, it's about finding someone to beat him. Tell me why you think Biden is 'that guy'. Sure, easy question and thanks for asking. Easy peasy. On the country’s birthday, Biden offers hopeful counterpoint to Trump’s message. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/on-the-country-s-birthday-biden-offers-hopeful-counterpoint-to-trump-s-message/ar-BB16kVSq?li=BBorjTa&ocid=msn360 Do yo have any more of the soundbite questions? Edited July 5, 2020 by earlinclaifornia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, RickG16 said: But he produces good soundbites and to the general electorate I think that's what matters. Look... This isn't about praising Trump, it's about finding someone to beat him. Tell me why you think Biden is 'that guy'. I think for quite a few reasons Biden is far from the ideal candidate. I don't see him beat Trump, Trump is beating himself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickG16 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Sure, easy question and thanks for asking. Easy peasy. On the country’s birthday, Biden offers hopeful counterpoint to Trump’s message. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/on-the-country-s-birthday-biden-offers-hopeful-counterpoint-to-trump-s-message/ar-BB16kVSq?li=BBorjTa&ocid=msn360 Do yo have any more of the soundbite questions? I listened to that, and personally I think he mumbles. Look it's not my country, but I'm not sure Biden is the guy who can take the bull by the horns and get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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