Looking for a Thai dog training video

[Guderian]

The GF wanted a guard dog, and a friend of hers had just had a litter of pit bull pups. At least the father is a pit bull, I'm not sure what the mother is, long and lanky but she didn't look like any particular breed I recognised. She was given a puppy free and now after almost four months he's getting to be a big, strong animal, already 16 kg and by the look of his paws he's going to get quite a bit bigger. He's very strong, and as boisterous and curious (aka naughty!) as any puppy.

 

The problem is that the GF has no concept of training a dog, which isn't a big issue with the small dog she also has, but it's already a problem with a big dog like this one. And as he gets bigger and stronger, so the problem will get worse. At the moment her solution is to pick the dog up and carry him, which will become more problematic if he puts on an additional 10 kg or more, or else to shout at him in Thai and slap him with a flip flop. I've tried explaining to her that often the dog doesn't even know what he's being punished for and just gets confused, but I'm evidently a dumb farang who doesn't understand Thai dogs.

 

She really needs to start training the dog now, just basic stuff like sit, stay and come. I tried finding a random dog training video on You Tube and showing it to her, but that didn't have much effect. OTOH, my Thai's not great and while I thought it was a dog training video, who knows? Can anyone recommend a Thai language dog training video they've used that's available online, nothing difficult or she won't have the patience to watch it, just an explanation of how to teach the dog to obey a few simple commands? Thanks for any suggestions.

[bodga]

2 minutes ago, Guderian said:

pit bull pups

arent  these  banned  here?

[Guderian]

1 hour ago, bodga said:

arent  these  banned  here?

 

Please stick to the topic of a dog training video.

[2long]

Firstly, and sorry that this isn't about your video' I think you could have some serious problems here.

If this pup is male, and half PB he could end up killing the small dog.

If your lady needs a video to train a dog, maybe this free PB is not the right breed.

 

You appear to be 'farang' so I guess your lady has a grasp of English. My advice is to get and watch as many Cesar Milan shows as possible, and watch as many as you feel are relevant. 

Good luck! She will need it!

 

Exercise, discipline & affection... in that order!

[Oxx]

The following link will take you to a Google search for dog training videos in Thai:

 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1920&bih=977&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ALeKk00eZtnjwsBUzSvO9uCGYH9D8um5Zg%3A1594167302588&ei=BhAFX9jDI8Xd9QPGs4bACw&q="อบรม"+หมา++สุนัข&oq="อบรม"+หมา++สุนัข&gs_l=psy-ab.3...25222.26781.0.29130.2.2.0.0.0.0.89.157.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.VeYYyBCLLXs

[chrisinth]

Hi OP, I can't recommend any dog training videos in Thai, but can recommend something to watch on YouTube. If you type in either Tom Davis or Upstate Canine Academy you will find his videos. This is a young American trainer/behaviour specialist who releases his videos to help people in your situation.

 

All the visual aspects are here and you can help your wife if necessary with the script. Your new dog is not just your wife's responsibility after all, it is the responsibility of the entire family. The pup/dog is now part of your pack.
 

[Guderian]

5 hours ago, Oxx said:

The following link will take you to a Google search for dog training videos in Thai:

 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1920&bih=977&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ALeKk00eZtnjwsBUzSvO9uCGYH9D8um5Zg%3A1594167302588&ei=BhAFX9jDI8Xd9QPGs4bACw&q="อบรม"+หมา++สุนัข&oq="อบรม"+หมา++สุนัข&gs_l=psy-ab.3...25222.26781.0.29130.2.2.0.0.0.0.89.157.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.VeYYyBCLLXs

Thanks for the effort but I'd already done a search in Thai myself and turned up a bunch of videos that may or may not have something to do with training dogs. My Thai isn't that great so I'm not going to spend hours trying to follow what the videos are saying, or even if they're actually about training dogs, I was hoping somebody's wife or GF might have had a similar problem in the past and so they could recommend an appropriate video based on their own experience.

[Guderian]

59 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

Hi OP, I can't recommend any dog training videos in Thai, but can recommend something to watch on YouTube. If you type in either Tom Davis or Upstate Canine Academy you will find his videos. This is a young American trainer/behaviour specialist who releases his videos to help people in your situation.

 

All the visual aspects are here and you can help your wife if necessary with the script. Your new dog is not just your wife's responsibility after all, it is the responsibility of the entire family. The pup/dog is now part of your pack.
 

We have something similar in the UK by an old biddie called Barbara Woodhouse. She was quite famous for her dog training programmes on the TV some years ago. If I can't find anything suitable in Thai maybe I'll try her on one of those, she might identify with the older lady better than she would with a male trainer.

 

If she lived with me then the dog would have been trained already, but she spends most of her time with her family in Laem Chabang, she's got her own place up there and wanted the big dog as a guard dog for that place. I see my responsibility in this as persuading her that she needs to do something to train the dog, not actually training him myself.

[chrisinth]

2 minutes ago, Guderian said:

We have something similar in the UK by an old biddie called Barbara Woodhouse. She was quite famous for her dog training programmes on the TV some years ago. If I can't find anything suitable in Thai maybe I'll try her on one of those, she might identify with the older lady better than she would with a male trainer.

 

If she lived with me then the dog would have been trained already, but she spends most of her time with her family in Laem Chabang, she's got her own place up there and wanted the big dog as a guard dog for that place. I see my responsibility in this as persuading her that she needs to do something to train the dog, not actually training him myself.

Ah, OK, understand. Yeah, 4 months old, something needs to started soon otherwise she will be having battles with the mutt the older it gets.

 

Sit, Down, Heel, Stay, Come; these are the really important ones it needs to start. Oh, and tell her not to try to train for security; the security will come from the relationship.

[sammieuk1]

I personally would start the training with get your mouth off my throat bit first ???? 

[Guderian]

2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

I personally would start the training with get your mouth off my throat bit first ???? 

Need to teach it sign language then, when a pit bull has you by the throat you probably won't be able to talk, lol.

[Guderian]

2 hours ago, chrisinth said:

Ah, OK, understand. Yeah, 4 months old, something needs to started soon otherwise she will be having battles with the mutt the older it gets.

 

Sit, Down, Heel, Stay, Come; these are the really important ones it needs to start. Oh, and tell her not to try to train for security; the security will come from the relationship.

The dog's still young, curious and friendly, he barks at strangers (which is what I think she really wanted from a guard dog, not the whole tearing people limb-from-limb thing), but he's quite happy to make friends with them. I'm not sure if or when that will change. He's also only 50% pit bull, so I'm hoping not as unpredictable as the real deal can be.

 

I had another thought, has anyone tried dog training classes here? I've no idea if there's a school in Laem Chabang, but I'd happily pay for the lessons if she'd go. 

[A1Str8]

Slap him with a flip flop? People like that need a shoe in the face not a dog. 

[chrisinth]

3 hours ago, Guderian said:

The dog's still young, curious and friendly, he barks at strangers (which is what I think she really wanted from a guard dog, not the whole tearing people limb-from-limb thing), but he's quite happy to make friends with them. I'm not sure if or when that will change. He's also only 50% pit bull, so I'm hoping not as unpredictable as the real deal can be.

 

I had another thought, has anyone tried dog training classes here? I've no idea if there's a school in Laem Chabang, but I'd happily pay for the lessons if she'd go. 

Again, no help with the video you were after, but one last comment from me on this thread Guderian, is the recommendation that your wife/yourself look towards a Herm Sprenger 2.25mm prong/pinch collar.

 

I fully understand these collars are controversial, (they have as much stigma attached to them as pitts have) mostly from people who have never even handled them let alone used them, as the tool that they are. 

 

I will openly admit that I was one of them. However, as a complete novice using the prong collar and able to get a 37kg German Shepherd suffering from slight anxiety and of a nervous disposition into the heel position in just 30 minutes, I was fully converted.

 

They are not instruments of torture but an instrument of communication between yourself and the dog without harming the dog in any way. A lot safer than the normal flat collar which has one point contact in the trachea area; the prong collar sits higher than this just under the ears and contact is distributed to multiple points

The photos below are of a rig I use everyday, the (green) attachment is for safety and attaches to Kahlua's flat collar he wears always. The prong collar comes off at the end of the walk. Believe me when I say that this is a remarkable tool. Note the leash, very light leather for the dog it controls..................

 

 

[Guderian]

On 7/8/2020 at 7:36 PM, chrisinth said:

Again, no help with the video you were after, but one last comment from me on this thread Guderian, is the recommendation that your wife/yourself look towards a Herm Sprenger 2.25mm prong/pinch collar.

 

I fully understand these collars are controversial, (they have as much stigma attached to them as pitts have) mostly from people who have never even handled them let alone used them, as the tool that they are. 

 

I will openly admit that I was one of them. However, as a complete novice using the prong collar and able to get a 37kg German Shepherd suffering from slight anxiety and of a nervous disposition into the heel position in just 30 minutes, I was fully converted.

 

They are not instruments of torture but an instrument of communication between yourself and the dog without harming the dog in any way. A lot safer than the normal flat collar which has one point contact in the trachea area; the prong collar sits higher than this just under the ears and contact is distributed to multiple points

The photos below are of a rig I use everyday, the (green) attachment is for safety and attaches to Kahlua's flat collar he wears always. The prong collar comes off at the end of the walk. Believe me when I say that this is a remarkable tool. Note the leash, very light leather for the dog it controls..................

 

 

I know nothing of these, but see that they're readily available on Lazada and not expensive. I'll keep it in mind, but the first commands she needs to get sorted out are "sit" and "come". The collar might help with learning the first of those, but I don't see that it's going to assist getting the dog to obey the second one. I'll keep it in mind, anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

 

I sent the GF a video I found that was in Thai and shows how to train a dog to sit, but she's done zilch with it. I think I might be tackling the wrong problem here, it's not the dog that needs obedience training but the woman, lol!