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Trump's clemency for Roger Stone wipes away fine and supervised release

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13 hours ago, J Town said:

I take exception to this remark. The majority of US citizens are absolutely against 45. It can be daunting - the elections are rigged on many levels with the electoral college, gerrymandering, and voter suppression, all fighting against a fair election process. Add voter apathy to that and it would appear the US has given up. I'm hoping 45 has generated enough anger against racism, homophobia, corruption, etc to encourage people to vote him out of office. And if he gets another term, then god help us all. That will be the end of even a shred of democracy in the US.

I usually vote libertarian (so a real Republican's Republican) for limited government.  So I voted for what I wanted to see from our government.  This election I will, for the first time, vote for whomever has the best chance of beating the incumbent.  So you have to congratulate Trump on this - it's all about him.  (and for nailing that Playmate of the Year)

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  • There is no question that Stone is a convicted criminal, and his crimes were those of protecting 45. In what reality could 45 commuting this criminal's sentence be anything other than corrupt?

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15 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Perhaps you have some FACTS as to how or why Obama is crooked?

 

No doubt if you make such a statement, you have verifiable FACTS based on insider knowledge. Were you in law enforcement? The intel community? The DoJ?

 

Absent direct experience in any of those entities, I would have no choice but to believe your opinion is absolutely NOT FACT-based.

 

The ball is in your court.

Obama let Hezbollah sell heroin in the US to fund terror operations because he feared upsetting Iran.
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/
Obama killed women and children in drone strikes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/opinion/drones-civilian-casulaties-trump-obama.html
Obama used the IRS to attack Conservatives.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2013/06/25/the-timeline-of-irs-targeting-of-conservative-groups/#4d4f15a33572
Obama spied on AP journalists.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/opinion/spying-on-the-associated-press.html
Obama let Mexican gangs buy guns in th e US without any way of tracking them.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate/#7a1fd625752a
Obama ignored calls for increased security in Benghazi which got Americans killed.
https://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/17996104/benghazi-attack-clinton-obama
Obama ignored widespread corruption in the VA which resulted in many veterans dying.
https://theweek.com/articles/626239/obamas-va-scandal-much-bigger-than-callous-disney-analogy
Obama's ACA made health insurance more expensive and many people lost their doctors and plans.
https://www.heritage.org/health-care-reform/report/how-obamacare-raised-premiums
-Obama's secret service was caught in a prostitution scandal in Columbia.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/03/25/secret-service-prostitution-scandal-one-year-later/
-Obama's stimulus wasted hundreds of billions of dollars.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2009/12/19/data-shows-that-the-stimulus-package-was-a-waste-of-money
-Obama's AG committed perjury on multiple occasions.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/eric-holder-lie-under-oath/314812/
-Obama used fake intelligence from foreign sources to get FISA warrants to spy on Trump
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/
-Obama's FBI doctored evidence in an attempt to tie Trump to Russia.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/09/ig-report-fbi-doctored-evidence-to-falsely-paint-carter-page-as-russian-spy/

Obama Lies:

https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2020/05/31/just-one-more-thing-obama-lied-about-n2569697

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/06/14/liberals-still-think-obama-was-the-best-president-ever-here-are-14-reasons-thats-ridiculous-n527544

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/05/barack-obama-economy-jobs-ugly-truth/

 

He gave guns to drug cartels

The Obama administration sent two thousand firearms across the border to trace them to drug cartels and lost hundreds of them. That’s pretty darn bad. But it got a whole lot worse when a border agent was killed with one of those guns. In response to this revelation, the Obama administration stonewalled and obstructed the investigation into what happened.

 

Attorney General Eric Holder falsely claimed to not know about the operation, and Obama personally obstructed the investigation by claiming executive privilege over documents requested by Congress. Attorney General Eric Holder was also held in contempt of Congress in a bipartisan vote for obstructing the investigation.

 

Hard to top obama's record of saint-hood. 555.

Check this out when your done with the reference's noted above.

https://spectator.us/obama-political-police/

 

Obama accomplished nothing of value. Even his signature "Obamacare" will not be remembered for any good it accomplished, but instead for tripling healthcare premiums in a single year. Obama could have suffered no greater blow than a Trump 2016 victory. Trump has destroyed Obama's legacy, or what little there was in the first place. History books will remember everything between Reagan and Trump as a failure.

The only reason people liked Obama was because he was a well spoken black man, one who talked of hope and change. People felt good knowing that a well spoken black man was president, since this alleviated their concerns about whether whites and blacks could truly be equal - after all, how could they not be with a black president?

While stupid, nonetheless this was sufficient for Obama to get elected (even over Hillary). And now, filled with resentment over Trump setting his achievements on fire, he hopes to dig back into the same core issue that got him elected in the first place: race.

He is here to remind everyone that Biden isn't racist because he has a token black friend who also happens to be well spoken.

 

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On 7/13/2020 at 7:10 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

Looking from outside of the USA I wonder how a person like Trump can get even 10% support. It was and is so obvious that he is an incompetent liar - among many other "character" flaws. Why would anybody vote for somebody like him?

I know Hillary was also not exactly perfect but not half as bad as Trump.

Would you like him better if he lied better.

On 7/14/2020 at 10:37 AM, david555 said:

Now in all honesty …..compare Obama's very long  list off pardons...… & in detail the crimes for what they where convicted ….. 

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

some of these seem really severe - one guy was sentenced in 1963 for "mutilation of coins" ???? 

On 7/14/2020 at 12:10 PM, mtls2005 said:

That, waiver of fines, means he can vote too.

 

 

No guessing who he would vote for.  If it is any consolation, I read months ago that N.Y. Southern District investigators synchronised a raid on his N.Y. apartment at the same time as the federal raid and arrest in Florida so they would have duplicate information for a N.Y. STATE prosecution in anticipation that the Donald would very likely pardon him of any Federal conviction.  Lets see how that works out.

Trump is becoming Biden's and the dems top ally. His insistence on shooting himself in the foot daily is costing him alot of support. There are alot of decent, hard working republicans who just cannot abide by his corrupt, racist and toxic behavior anymore. 

 

Don is heading toward the greatest humiliation of his lifetime. Millions around the world will watch with glee, as he disappears into oblivion and irrelevance. 

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Don is heading toward the greatest humiliation of his lifetime. Millions around the world will watch with glee, as he disappears into oblivion and irrelevance. 

You left out infamy. But above all, VOTE!

On 7/14/2020 at 6:59 AM, J Town said:

There is no question that Stone is a convicted criminal, and his crimes were those of protecting 45. In what reality could 45 commuting this criminal's sentence be anything other than corrupt?

It is HILARIOUS how all these Trump Haters have IGNORED the fact that 

OBAMA granted the same privalage to 1715 criminals commutations (including 504 life sentences) and another 212 were pardons

Clinton along the same lines LOL 

But Trump is at just 36 

bunch a jokers all of you that is trying to diss Trump over this 

On 7/14/2020 at 9:37 AM, david555 said:

Now in all honesty …..compare Obama's very long  list off pardons...… & in detail the crimes for what they where convicted ….. 

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons


As you can see form the majority of posters here they hate Trump and cannot see the facts and will certainly ignore OBAMA and CLintons pardons even thought between them they have thousands and Trump has just 36.

For every Purple haired BLM democratic supporter there is 10 Republicans waiting for November to make their voices heard and all these posters will be crying into their beers and I will be enjoying it probably more than in 2016

 

16 minutes ago, Nadia6 said:

It is HILARIOUS how all these Trump Haters have IGNORED the fact that 

OBAMA granted the same privalage to 1715 criminals commutations (including 504 life sentences) and another 212 were pardons

Clinton along the same lines LOL 

But Trump is at just 36 

bunch a jokers all of you that is trying to diss Trump over this 

It is SAD how you, a 45 supporter, put up such a specious red herring argument. That old "HE did it, so why can't 45?" argument is a distraction. Once again, I say let's take 45 to task. There could not BE a more obvious, egregious case of abuse of office than this one. Nail 45, make an example of him so there ARE no more "Obama did this, and Clinton did this, and . . ."

Put an end to it all, or throw up your hands and say you not only accept but encourage and support the death of the rule of law.

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7 hours ago, ncc1701d said:

some of these seem really severe - one guy was sentenced in 1963 for "mutilation of coins" ???? 

Yeah us laws & judges are strange...????.....to even convict some 

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