15 hours ago, heybruce said:

Why don't you provide one of these sources that you choose to believe?

 

 

Here you go.  36 studies from around the world with at least 500 people in each study. Do you really think I wouldn't have the facts before posting actual facts? 

 

Median corrected IFR was 0.10% in locations with COVID-19 population mortality rate less than the global average (<73 deaths per million as of July 12, 2020), 0.27% in locations with 73-500 COVID-19 deaths per million, and 0.90% in locations exceeding 500 COVID-19 deaths per million. Among people <70 years old, infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.57% with median of 0.05% across the different locations (corrected median of 0.04%). 

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.20101253v3

 

The CDC is on the high side at .065%

 

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Still, since estimates of the actual infection and death numbers are far more accurate today than at the beginning of the pandemic, the current estimates of between 0.2 to 1% are better as well. The CDC suggests that an IFR of 0.65% is the current best estimate.

 

The CDC suggests that an IFR of 0.65% is the current best estimate."

https://theconversation.com/how-deadly-is-the-coronavirus-the-true-fatality-rate-is-tricky-to-find-but-researchers-are-getting-closer-141426

 

I get it, many posters here aren't spring chickens and feel they are vulnerable and are subjected to being scared.  If that is the case, keep yourself safe and locked up.  No point locking up the healthy population.

Edited July 21, 20206 yr by steelepulse

Government of the twitter,for the twitter,by the twitter certainly seems to have encountered a few hurdles lately....it's rather a pity that the virus does not seem to be too concerned about "tweets" as a proactive treatment method.

A troll post using incorrect data calculations has been removed as well as the replies. 

 

A post with off topic 90 day report, TM30 comments has been removed. 

44 minutes ago, steelepulse said:

 

 

Here you go.  36 studies from around the world with at least 500 people in each study. Do you really think I wouldn't have the facts before posting actual facts? 

 

Median corrected IFR was 0.10% in locations with COVID-19 population mortality rate less than the global average (<73 deaths per million as of July 12, 2020), 0.27% in locations with 73-500 COVID-19 deaths per million, and 0.90% in locations exceeding 500 COVID-19 deaths per million. Among people <70 years old, infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.57% with median of 0.05% across the different locations (corrected median of 0.04%). 

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.20101253v3

 

The CDC is on the high side at .065%

 

"

Still, since estimates of the actual infection and death numbers are far more accurate today than at the beginning of the pandemic, the current estimates of between 0.2 to 1% are better as well. The CDC suggests that an IFR of 0.65% is the current best estimate.

 

The CDC suggests that an IFR of 0.65% is the current best estimate."

https://theconversation.com/how-deadly-is-the-coronavirus-the-true-fatality-rate-is-tricky-to-find-but-researchers-are-getting-closer-141426

 

I get it, many posters here aren't spring chickens and feel they are vulnerable and are subjected to being scared.  If that is the case, keep yourself safe and locked up.  No point locking up the healthy population.

Mildly reassuring.

 

However the methods of estimating the number of people that may have been infected with Covid 19 are very rough.  Also, medical science now knows that the virus does long term damage to some of those infected, but not the full extent of the damage or how many of those infected suffer this kind of damage.  And, as you noted, death is a lagging indicator.  It remains to be seen how making up the current surge of hospitalizations will survive.

 

If you do accept the 0.2% to 1% estimate for IFR, it leaves a virus that is two to ten times as deadly as the seasonal flu.  Some people won't worry about this, but even healthy young people who have elderly friends and family they don't want to infect and kill will be less sanguine.

16 hours ago, impulse said:

Here's the data that I follow.  From the CDC.  Just the deaths.  Not the reported cases that will vary wildly depending on the number of tests.  Take from it what you will...

 

It's not 100% accurate because of the lagtime between a death and the recording of the death certificate, but the trend is pretty unmistakable.  And no "2nd wave" after Memorial Day weekend at the beach, BLM protests, and the general foxhole fatigue that's driving millions out of our bunkers and back into the world.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

 

Coronavirus updates: US reports more than 1,000 deaths for the first time since May 29; CDC says virus rates 10x higher

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/21/covid-19-connecticut-false-positive-coronavirus-results-florida-teachers-trump/5473272002/