19 hours ago, connda said:

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck - it's a duck. 
If you think the duck looks like a unicorn - that's your perception.  No one is going to change your perception.
Nonetheless, debates should be entertaining on the off-chance that there are debates.  Then the public can make up their own minds whether the Dems are running a duck or a unicorn.

If you're thinking of pursuing a career as an ornithologist, think again.

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

"in a historical context . . . "  While I've never been aligned with any political party the Dems appealed to me more than the Republicans (of course they're two heads of the same snake).  That was many, many moons ago.  Go back 50~100 years.

‘In a factual context’.

 

Your posting history suggests otherwise.

2 hours ago, RocketDog said:

The man takes too much gratuitous glee from shocking people. 

He glories in conflict. He's a very sick puppy. 

 

I read these posts just to see how his loyal supporters struggle to rationalize his every move or pronouncement no matter how indefensible or irrational it may be. 

 

Here's a challenge for extra points lads:

 

"Has the President's proposal of injecting or embibing bleach been accepted by the medical community yet as a valid treatment for the virus?" 

No takers on my challenge yet? 

 

Come on, try to be as inventive as your mentor. 

Use some of the material from the myriad of his outlandish tweets and interviews as source materials. You won't get full credit but you can even claim to be stable genius doctors if that helps. 

4 hours ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

I could care less where trump accepts his nomination from actually...sounds like a fantastic place to give his concession speech as well...

You don't seriously think he would be gracious in defeat do you? That's just not in his playbook . 

 

You give the man far too much credit. Sociopaths simply don't think that way. 

 

Truthfully I wish he would just quietly leave the White House. I've heard much too much of his word salad already. His disconnected gibberish makes my brain wail. 

8 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

An absolutely bogus explanation.  What I said applies from Day 1.  This criticism has nothing to do with an election cycle.

 

Edit:  If I read you wrong, re only the election cycle, then apologies.  Even still your idea that the opposition party does not include praise is bogus.  Credit where credit is due should be recognized by all regardless of ideologies.  You seem to think that the role of opposition is to oppose for the sake of opposing.  That's a ridiculous notion for reasons too obvious to state.

 

 

What you said previously, and what you say above is covfefe.

 

Nothing to do with election cycle, Day 1 or any other nonsense mentioned in your posts. The opposition is not expected or required to "praise" the incumbent party or leadership.

 

Don't recall either the Republican Party, or Trump exhibiting much by way of "credit where credit is due" during Trump's predecessor's terms. They can't even bring themselves to do so now. 

 

I don't think that the opposition needs to oppose for the sake of opposing. I think Trump provides a whole lot of instances where objections and oppositions are the order of the day. That you refuse to see anything wrong with Trump's presidency is your own choice. That you somehow insist the opposition ought to embrace your point of view is, again, covfefe stuff.

8 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Congrats, you're the first lefty here to have done so (at least to my knowledge).  Keep looking for other commendable things and you'll find them.  They're there and quite visible.  But you have to have the willingness to look.

 

I have no problem with criticism of Trump.  I have my own.  Don't ask me what they are, though.  I'm not about to feed the trolls.

 

As if often the case, you "knowledge" is lacking on several levels. The notion that Trump sometimes does ok things, but for the wrong reasons and/or in the wrong way is nothing new to these "discussions". Of course, it does not fully comply with the "praise" demand, but such is life.

 

Moving on, it may come as a shocker, but not everyone who disagrees, dislikes or criticizes Trump is a "lefty". I guess it's kinda hard to accept, if one's invested in the notion that the Democratic Party is "radical left".

 

Like it or not, most Americans do not see Trump's presidency as a success story. You don't like or trust polls? That ok, just consult the 2016 popular vote, and how balance in the Congress shifted after that. If talking globally, doubt there's much enthusiasm or appreciation of Trump's "achievements" either. So you may assert that they are "here and quite visible", but maybe mostly to Trump supporters. Not nearly good enough.

 

Your last line is....what? Reading your posts here, can't see much evidence of such criticism. Essentially labeling all who do not "praise" Trump as "trolls" is probably the very same thing you whine about.

8 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Many of their proposals are radical and unworkable.  Perhaps the concept is progressive but their ideas for how it's to be implemented are radical.

 

I'm sure you thought you meant something by that. Or at least tried to sound as if. Now, pretty please and with sugar on top - could you expand on this...whatever it is?

7 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

In a historically context it's hard to deny that the Dems have moved so far left that they've gone off the chart.  With AOC and the Gang (all of whom have won their primaries) whatever moderates are left will continue to be pushed further left.  Or they'll simply be replaced.

 

AOC & Co. are a small group within the Democratic Party. They are not the majority, they do not dictate the party's policy and platform. They are vocal, and they do raise "radical" (in the context of American politics) ideas, so get more than their fair share of attention. How many of their various proposals etc. actually got anywhere?

19 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

You have been asked many, many times why you think the Dems are 'the radical left' so please either start providing examples of these 'radical left' ideas or please kindly refrain from what is a very obvious smear campaign.

Perhaps your side should lead the way by not smearing anyone that disagrees with them.

A good start would be by stopping all the nasty language about Trump which has no place in a civil conversation.

Eg post #124 by RocketDog

You give the man far too much credit. Sociopaths simply don't think that way. 

 

Truthfully I wish he would just quietly leave the White House. I've heard much too much of his word salad already. His disconnected gibberish makes my brain wail. 

 

 

 

Edited August 20, 20206 yr by thaibeachlovers

23 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps your side should lead the way by not smearing anyone that disagrees with them.

A good start would be by stopping all the nasty language about Trump which has no place in a civil conversation.

Eg post #124 by RocketDog

You give the man far too much credit. Sociopaths simply don't think that way. 

 

Truthfully I wish he would just quietly leave the White House. I've heard much too much of his word salad already. His disconnected gibberish makes my brain wail. 

 

 

 

Trump supporter has problem with ‘nasty language’, or is it perhaps the underlying truth of the ‘nasty language’?

 

Mary Trump (PhD Clinical Psychology) has in her book on the man referred to Donald Trump as a ‘sociopath’. 

 

And Trump’s ‘word salads’ and ‘disconnected gibberish’ are a matter of widely published video footage.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps your side should lead the way by not smearing anyone that disagrees with them.

A good start would be by stopping all the nasty language about Trump which has no place in a civil conversation.

Eg post #124 by RocketDog

You give the man far too much credit. Sociopaths simply don't think that way. 

 

Truthfully I wish he would just quietly leave the White House. I've heard much too much of his word salad already. His disconnected gibberish makes my brain wail. 

 

 

 

Strange, strange, a Trump supporter complaining about 'nasty' language used by opponents.

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Strange, strange, a Trump supporter complaining about 'nasty' language used by opponents.

But hes not a trump supporter.

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

But hes not a trump supporter.

Funny most Trump ardent Trump supporters here are now claiming that they actually don’t support the man but support his policies. For laughing out loud, this man has mental and behavioral disorders that influence his policies. What lame excuses. 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps your side should lead the way by not smearing anyone that disagrees with them.

A good start would be by stopping all the nasty language about Trump which has no place in a civil conversation.

Eg post #124 by RocketDog

You give the man far too much credit. Sociopaths simply don't think that way. 

 

Truthfully I wish he would just quietly leave the White House. I've heard much too much of his word salad already. His disconnected gibberish makes my brain wail. 

 

 

 

It's not smearing when it's true ;- A petition signed by 350 psychiatrists (350!!!!) and other mental-health professionals professionally claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is deteriorating rapidly was submitted to Congress. https://www.businessinsider.com/psychiatrists-submit-warning-trumps-mental-health-deteriorating-2019-12

 

I mean 350 trained professional where so concerned about the guys mental health they though it important to tell Congress. And there's many, many other trained psychiatrists who have studied his behaviour and have concluded he exhibits all the traits of a sociopath (just Google Trump a sociopath). Coincidence? I think not.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump supporter has problem with ‘nasty language’, or is it perhaps the underlying truth of the ‘nasty language’?

 

Mary Trump (PhD Clinical Psychology) has in her book on the man referred to Donald Trump as a ‘sociopath’. 

 

And Trump’s ‘word salads’ and ‘disconnected gibberish’ are a matter of widely published video footage.

If she diagnosed him as a sociopath and made that public without personally talking to him she should be struck off.

 

Do you have anything to say about the OP or are you just deflecting, as usual?

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's not smearing when it's true ;- A petition signed by 350 psychiatrists (350!!!!) and other mental-health professionals professionally claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is deteriorating rapidly was submitted to Congress. https://www.businessinsider.com/psychiatrists-submit-warning-trumps-mental-health-deteriorating-2019-12

 

I mean 350 trained professional where so concerned about the guys mental health they though it important to tell Congress. And there's many, many other trained psychiatrists who have studied his behaviour and have concluded he exhibits all the traits of a sociopath (just Google Trump a sociopath). Coincidence? I think not.

 

 

 

How many thousands of psychiatrists in the US? So they found 350 that hate Trump to sign some stupid petition which means nothing in clinical terms. So what?

Given the hatred and vitriol constantly spouted on here, I could do some diagnosing of my own, but we are not allowed to use the words any more.

 

To think you were the one calling for a cessation of smearing . Pots and kettles, pots and kettles.

 

 

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's not smearing when it's true ;- A petition signed by 350 psychiatrists (350!!!!) and other mental-health professionals professionally claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is deteriorating rapidly was submitted to Congress. https://www.businessinsider.com/psychiatrists-submit-warning-trumps-mental-health-deteriorating-2019-12

 

I mean 350 trained professional where so concerned about the guys mental health they though it important to tell Congress. And there's many, many other trained psychiatrists who have studied his behaviour and have concluded he exhibits all the traits of a sociopath (just Google Trump a sociopath). Coincidence? I think not.

 

 

 

No professional psychiatrist would make a diagnosis without personally talking to the person involved. "Charlatans" comes to mind if they are prepared to overlook their professional obligations, and being struck off would be appropriate.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How many thousands of psychiatrists in the US? So they found 350 that hate Trump to sign some stupid petition which means nothing in clinical terms. So what?

Given the hatred and vitriol constantly spouted on here, I could do some diagnosing of my own, but we are not allowed to use the words any more.

 

To think you were the one calling for a cessation of smearing . Pots and kettles, pots and kettles.

 

 

His niece, who does know him agrees.

What other predident has had this diagnosis.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No professional psychiatrist would make a diagnosis without personally talking to the person involved. "Charlatans" comes to mind if they are prepared to overlook their professional obligations, and being struck off would be appropriate.

Still you have yet to criticize Trump supporters diagnosing a case of senile dementia in respect to Biden. Hmmmmm...

Edited August 20, 20206 yr by rcummings

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No professional psychiatrist would make a diagnosis without personally talking to the person involved. "Charlatans" comes to mind if they are prepared to overlook their professional obligations, and being struck off would be appropriate.

They do when its so obvious. but u arent a trump supporter so why does it bother you.

Edited August 20, 20206 yr by Sujo

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How many thousands of psychiatrists in the US? So they found 350 that hate Trump to sign some stupid petition which means nothing in clinical terms. So what?

Given the hatred and vitriol constantly spouted on here, I could do some diagnosing of my own, but we are not allowed to use the words any more.

 

To think you were the one calling for a cessation of smearing . Pots and kettles, pots and kettles.

 

 

No one 'found' them. It's not one of your favorite conspiracy theories or some sort of Dem plot to besmearch Trump. 350 psychiatrists, all of their own volition saw enough traits (in their professional opinion) to be so worried about Trump that they felt compelled to write to congress. 

And I reckon if they did poll the other 'thousands of psychiatrists in the US' on the same subject they would get a very large cross section that would agree with the 350.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No professional psychiatrist would make a diagnosis without personally talking to the person involved. "Charlatans" comes to mind if they are prepared to overlook their professional obligations, and being struck off would be appropriate.

Don't shoot the messengers (all 350 of them).

13 hours ago, rcummings said:

Still you have yet to criticize Trump supporters diagnosing a case of senile dementia in respect to Biden. Hmmmmm...

Far as I know no cabal of psychiatrists has come out to claim Biden has senile dementia, and not supporting Biden, why would I come to his aid?

Never mind, I'll leave you all to carry on without me.

On 8/18/2020 at 12:14 PM, MyTHaiMyKe said:

If basement hidin biden can accept his nomination from the basement of his home, then President Trump can accept his nomination from his home!

Temporary Monday to Friday home, at his clubs each weekend.

 

I love the way "Trump Hater/s" is bandied about, for those who disagree, does criticism of a person or policies equal hate now?

Perhaps some think more critically than others who appear to leap to defense, rather than thinking through issues

 

Off-topic posts and replies removed.  

 

33 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Temporary Monday to Friday home, at his clubs each weekend.

 

Actually he claims that Mar-a-Lago is his home. In so doing he violated a signed agreement with Palm Beach that in return for the right to build a dock, Mar-a-Lago would never qualify as a home. Another instance of Trump breaking his word.

6 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Temporary Monday to Friday home, at his clubs each weekend.

He also works for no pay! So he is entitled for weekends at his club, but still working!

3 minutes ago, MyTHaiMyKe said:

He also works for no pay! So he is entitled for weekends at his club, but still working!

 

I'm sure he also hosts free of charge the Secret Service, assorted staffers and other essential people. Not.

54 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I'm sure he also hosts free of charge the Secret Service, assorted staffers and other essential people. Not.

And shortly after he was elected he doubled the membership fee at Mar-a-Lago from $100,000 to $200,000. But, as before,  that was done solely to benefit the chief recipient of his previous charitable donations: himself.