Snackbar Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 World Reading Habits latest ‘survey’ claims the average Thai citizen reads more than any other being on Earth, except an Indian. This isn’t Thai bashing, this is a topic of serious interest and influences ‘Life Long Learning’ of which the Government spends 5% of gdp, 20% of annual expenditure and has had 21 Education Ministers in 20 years. Look deeper and Thailand‘s 15 year old international students are in the 4th division of English proficiency ‘reading’ ranked 66 of 78. OECD member countries by The Program for International Student Assessment (PISA). I’m a uni language teacher and my students are collection of mainly A1 and a minority B1, despite my institution recommendation to teach at B1-B2 level. Each English language course is equally divided into Listening & Speaking, reading and grammar. The students accept the content but display little respect for reading. For example a reading lesson has clear instructions to ‘read’ an email and generate and answer obvious ‘critical thinking’ questions. The propensity of the majority is to ignore the instructions, ‘Read the email’ and instead attempt to answer the question. Of course TIT and attempt to answer translates into asking a friend for the ‘correct’ answer. Weird isn’t it? Show them a video of the Aesop Fabel, ‘The Hare and The Tortoise‘ Ask them Who wins the race the hare or the tortoise and why? The universal answer is. The Turtle wins. Clear evidence that. They knew part of the answer without taking the 5 seconds required to read the question carefully. Although their answer is incorrect, we know there isn’t a turtle in the race, they display enthusiasm and understanding but completely miss the point. Fascinating. To complete this little tale, some students like reading and display admirable qualities in other areas. Where as those students reluctant to read tend to have excuses for late or incomplete work, are absent more often, are unhealthier, hospital appointments, disorganised and generally lower in productivity than their bookworm peers. Where’s the connection? Sorry for any errors, typos etc. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 I've never seen a Thai reading a book. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) Number 2 in the world 4.8 million Thais’ forecast to spend $76 million on ebooks this year. statists.com Edited August 19, 2020 by Snackbar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mudcat Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 The only serious reading most Thais do is of menus. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveK Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, mudcat said: The only serious reading most Thais do is of menus. And Line. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucking Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, SteveK said: And Line. Not exactly reading but for sure they spend more time thinking and looking at lottery numbers than any other nation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 This report has just got to be utter nonsense. Never seen it, never heard of it. It's the most fantastically unbelievable story that I have heard in a long long time. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 It’s on the net, seriously. https://geediting.com/world-reading-habits-2018/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Snackbar said: It’s on the net, seriously. https://geediting.com/world-reading-habits-2018/ Normaly i don't believe much what is in internet! And this is like one president can say FAKE NEWS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: I've never seen a Thai reading a book. Here's the reason. This book is in a "sale", take a look at the price: Nearly half a days minimum wage, in Thailand, for what is a fairly thin paperback. Would you pay the equivalent percentage, in the UK, of a UK days minimum wage, which would be about £30.00, for a copy? How about paying nearly 70% (£47.00+) of UK minimum daily wage for this?: And where are the libraries in Thailand? Pricing and placing literature and worthwhile learning out of reach of the majority is all part of the plan. Edited August 19, 2020 by Enoon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Two of my staff read books constantly. One averages a book a week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Have you taken an interest in what they read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Enoon said: Here's the reason. This book is in a "sale", take a look at the price: Over half a days minimum wage, in Thailand, for what is a fairly thin paperback. Would you pay, in the UK, over half a UK days minimum wage, which would be over £34.00, for a copy? And where are the libraries in Thailand? Pricing and placing literature and worthwhile learning out of reach of the majority is all part of the plan. While you might see a Thai holding a book as a political protest. I doubt many of them have ever read it (not enough pictures). I don't know anyone who buys books these days, all downloaded free from the usual sites. I read a book every couple of days, since the internet got going, I've not bought any. Maybe the headline is right, and Thais are the only people left buying lots of books because all the English speakers download, which doesn't add to the sales figures. Edited August 19, 2020 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 You can read Animal Farm online for ‘free’ Not a book any Muslim is gonna read 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 You make a good point .. the ability to read and understand what they are reading leaves a lot to be desired .. If I emailed my bird with one that contained more than about 20 words the reply would be " call me you email long too much " .. And I wouldn't even include stuff like " it is incumbent upon me " or I wish to bring to your attention " .. everything had to be broken down to a " the cat sat on the mat " level .. so yea I know where your coming from .. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Snackbar said: Have you taken an interest in what they read? I have asked about the books they read. The first, a woman, reads mostly the Thai romance novels. The other, a man, reads a lot of science fiction and what would best be described as mystery novels, but his reading crosses a lot of genres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paiman Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 Same same, never seen a Thai reading. Only once in a while they will grab a little Buddha leaflet and stare at a page for a while. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) Have you noticed any nuisances the two Thai readers display, compared to other staff members? Edited August 19, 2020 by Snackbar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yes, the Thais many of you encounter do not read hard copy books. Have you considered that this characteristic is a reflection of their socio economic status? Why is it a surprise to some that the shop girls, beer bar prostitutes etc., they associate with are not readers? Associate with different people and you will discover that yes, indeed millions of Thais do read books. This is why every major shopping mall has a large bookstore. Honestly, some of the comments on this thread are ignorant. How do you think a retailer like B2S has grown and prospered in Thailand? It has 100+ stores and is in every major retail mall. It also has a strategic partnership with MEB (Ranked as one of Thailand's largest e-book platforms with 2 million+ active users.) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
userabcd Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I have often seen Thais reading books while travelling on the BTS. Pre covid time there were a few annual book fairs in Bangkok and I observed many Thais buying up lots of books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snackbar Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) It’s a democracy, every voice has value. B2S is an office stationary retailer. Part of OfficeMate co. 2 million is 3% of the population. BTW. Some people have morals. Edited August 19, 2020 by Snackbar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 7:59 PM, BritManToo said: I've never seen a Thai reading a book. Strange. Maybe something to do with where you hang out. I see many Thais reading books. My wife reads every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 10:14 PM, geriatrickid said: Yes, the Thais many of you encounter do not read hard copy books. Have you considered that this characteristic is a reflection of their socio economic status? Why is it a surprise to some that the shop girls, beer bar prostitutes etc., they associate with are not readers? Associate with different people and you will discover that yes, indeed millions of Thais do read books. This is why every major shopping mall has a large bookstore. Honestly, some of the comments on this thread are ignorant. How do you think a retailer like B2S has grown and prospered in Thailand? It has 100+ stores and is in every major retail mall. It also has a strategic partnership with MEB (Ranked as one of Thailand's largest e-book platforms with 2 million+ active users.) I would say the same thing. "beer bar prostitutes" lol - that could offend some that call them bar girls. It's socially acceptable for expats to marry a bar girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Neeranam said: Strange. Maybe something to do with where you hang out. I see many Thais reading books. My wife reads every day. Would point out a Thai woman married to a white guy is hardly normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 9:33 PM, Enoon said: Here's the reason. This book is in a "sale", take a look at the price: Nearly half a days minimum wage, in Thailand, for what is a fairly thin paperback. Would you pay the equivalent percentage, in the UK, of a UK days minimum wage, which would be about £30.00, for a copy? How about paying nearly 70% (£47.00+) of UK minimum daily wage for this?: And where are the libraries in Thailand? Pricing and placing literature and worthwhile learning out of reach of the majority is all part of the plan. Ever noticed how many Thais drive BMW or Benz? Care to work out how much these are of a minimum daily wage? Even rich people in the UK wouldn't pay 100% tax on their BMW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 10:14 PM, geriatrickid said: Yes, the Thais many of you encounter do not read hard copy books. Have you considered that this characteristic is a reflection of their socio economic status? Why is it a surprise to some that the shop girls, beer bar prostitutes etc., they associate with are not readers? Would point out both Thai women I lived with were university graduates (as well as hookers), neither read books. Nor did their pals who frequently had study sessions in my home (as far as I could see). My Thai stepdaughter, one term away from graduation, doesn't read books, nor do her friends (all mostly virgins). Obviously I don't include course books, where generally one or two of the girls would read and do the work, with everyone else copying. On the other hand, I'm reading books for pleasure every day, so it's not as if they don't have an example to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 10:03 PM, Paiman said: Same same, never seen a Thai reading. Only once in a while they will grab a little Buddha leaflet and stare at a page for a while. Maybe change your social circles. I often go to the RBSC where there is a reading room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Would point out both Thai women I lived with were university graduates (as well as hookers), neither read books. Nor did their pals who frequently had study sessions in my home (as far as I could see). My Thai stepdaughter, one term away from graduation, doesn't read books, nor do her friends (all mostly virgins). Obviously I don't include course books, where generally one or two of the girls would read and do the work, with everyone else copying. On the other hand, I'm reading books for pleasure every day, so it's not as if they don't have an example to follow. May I point out that you, and your paid gfs are not normal Thais. This post says a lot about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) Just now, Neeranam said: Maybe change your social circles. I often go to the RBSC where there is a reading room. Ahhhhh yes, adults reading magazines and comics are obviously avid readers. 30 seats and 3 people, obviously a result of the COVID restrictions. It'd be full at any other time. Edited August 24, 2020 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 7:35 PM, Snackbar said: This isn’t Thai bashing, Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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