Thailand delays human testing for coronavirus vaccine

[snoop1130]

Thailand delays human testing for coronavirus vaccine

 

FILE PHOTO: A medical personnel performs a nose swab test on a local resident of a community in Bangkok, amid the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak in Thailand, April 28, 2020. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha/File Photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand will delay human trials of its coronavirus vaccine due to limited production capacity at overseas facilities, a senior official said on Wednesday, but it hopes to resume trials by the end of the year.

 

Thai health authorities had planned human testing of the vaccine by October, but must delay that by several months as factories abroad are at full capacity, said Kiat Ruxrungtham, director of the Chulalongkorn University vaccine development programme.

 

The delay will be a setback for Thailand’s push to quickly create its own vaccine and comes as developers worldwide race to complete trials and secure regulatory approval.

 

A race is on among countries to guarantee a supply amid concern about competition for access, with Britain and the United States in the lead in securing six vaccine deals with drugmakers each.

 

Thailand’s cabinet on Tuesday approved a budget of 1 billion baht ($31.8 million) for vaccines, 60% of which would be invested in Oxford University’s vaccine programme and the remainder in its domestic programme.

 

Thailand has reported 3,403 confirm cases of the coronavirus and 58 deaths. It has gone without a local transmission for more than three months.

 

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[Phuketshrew]

So they are spending billions of baht on developing a vaccine but will have no means to produce it?

[2 is 1]

8 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:

So they are spending billions of baht on developing a vaccine but will have no means to produce it?

They only give 60% from budget to somebody else! They are so confident about they own vaccine! That not even need money! Thailand is so supportive!

[rasmus5150]

36 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand has reported 3,403 confirm cases of the coronavirus and 58 deaths. It has gone without a local transmission for more than three months.

Thailand doesn't need a vaccine.

They have the Immigration Bureau that can keep out all the dirty foreigners.

[Boomer6969]

How could they test a vaccine (phase 3) when they have no Covid. Maybe that's why they want to open borders to tourists.

[polpott]

11 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

How could they test a vaccine (phase 3) when they have no Covid. Maybe that's why they want to open borders to tourists.

They can't. Oxford Group are conducting phase 3 trials in S. Africa and Brazil.

[Surelynot]

22bn would buy a fair amount of capacity........but 'we' need those submarines so very urgently.

[geriatrickid]

2 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

So they are spending billions of baht on developing a vaccine but will have no means to produce it?

It is a specialized production and this is a common situation with lead batches. You cannot just make a vaccine overnight. It requires a plant, trained personnel  and support infrastructure. Thailand is in the same  situation as Australia, and Canada and many other countries.  The active ingredients come from India or China and Thailand is in line with everyone else.

 

Thailand's professionals have already stated that it will take 12-18 months before a Covid19 vaccine will be ready in Thailand. This is no secret and they have said that the timeline is optimistic.

 

Please listen to the explanation from Dr. Somchaiya Surichan, Director of Biologicals Research Group, Thailand GPO. She is a wonderful and qualified professional. Her honesty  integrity is obvious.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 26, 2020 by geriatrickid

[ukrules]

ChAdOx1 ncov-19 will be around soon enough. I read somewhere that they've stopped the phase 3 trial applications for the working age group (18 to 55 year olds) already, because they have enough in this age range.

 

I take this as a good sign as they're now pushing ahead with other age groups which are more of a 'risk'.

[bodga]

Surely  not as world  leaders in ( insert imaginary field  of  choice) this I  thought they would  have at least inoculated half the population by  now? Why our dear PM told us all this surely?

Land of twits.

[Boomer6969]

The OP's pic looks like that of a worried gynecologist.

[thailand49]

The story is basically they are late to the game not because of money " Capacity "

[cardinalblue]

The money would be better spent putting smart signals at the majority of  U turns...and totally do away w/ u turns facing each other

[kcpattaya]

Suuuurrreee....
Why would you rush into this?!

[DLock]

So...all the monkeys died, huh?

 

It's cool, you have your cure for AIDS and Ebola to fall back on...

[jojothai]

"Thai health authorities had planned human testing of the vaccine by October, but must delay that by several months as factories abroad are at full capacity, said Kiat Ruxrungtham, director of the Chulalongkorn University vaccine development programme."

Hopeless case. If testing is several months, then no way of getting vaccine to the people before 2022.
Many times the lack of planning is obvious,
Truly Amazing Thailand. 

I have said before, if you want to get a vaccine when it is available then be prepared to go out of Country.

But god forbid you may not be allowed back in.????????????

Edited August 27, 2020 by jojothai
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[Bender Rodriguez]

submarines (useless) or billions for a vaccine for 58 deaths (useless)

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

So they are spending billions of baht on developing a vaccine but will have no means to produce it?

If the actually have a vaccine?

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

The money would be better spent putting smart signals at the majority of  U turns...and totally do away w/ u turns facing each other

Thailand is the epicentre of U-turns, and not just on the roads !

[Miami007]

11 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

It is a specialized production and this is a common situation with lead batches. You cannot just make a vaccine overnight. It requires a plant, trained personnel  and support infrastructure. Thailand is in the same  situation as Australia, and Canada and many other countries.  The active ingredients come from India or China and Thailand is in line with everyone else.

 

Thailand's professionals have already stated that it will take 12-18 months before a Covid19 vaccine will be ready in Thailand. This is no secret and they have said that the timeline is optimistic.

 

Please listen to the explanation from Dr. Somchaiya Surichan, Director of Biologicals Research Group, Thailand GPO. She is a wonderful and qualified professional. Her honesty  integrity is obvious.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe I don't understand something here. Thailand is not proceeding with the trials of the Thai vaccine because they can't produce it in the overseas facility... then the article mentions the Oxford vaccine. How is that Thai?

 

Lastly, if there is no Covid19 infection in Thailand how do they test the vaccine? If there is no disease, they can inject a placebo and claim that it works as none of the test subjects got sick...

This is not a vaccine developed by Thai doctor's for Thailand.. seems like an international effort.

 

At least someone finally acknowledges that a vaccine will take time to be developed, tested and then produced and distributed

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

Thailand is the epicentre of U-turns, and not just on the roads !

They have more U turns than Boris Johnson......and that is saying something.

[garzhe]

"factories abroad are at full capacity"   

 

Hmm !.  Maybe all the rats died

[rupert the bear]

with very experienced  well supplied and monetised systems producing vaccines thru UK USA and france which will be available to the public with a month or 2 go with that .why waste time and money yourselves when the expertise isnt there,or use big brothers in beijing.the UK french and US versions will be accepted internationally too no ones wants anything to do with china.for a multitude of reasons.

[Syduan]

14 hours ago, polpott said:

They can't. Oxford Group are conducting phase 3 trials in S. Africa and Brazil.

Easier to get away with murder there.

[Caldera]

Sad news, another missed chance for Thailand after their infamous failure to prove that they can cure rabies as claimed.

 

[DLock]

1 hour ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

submarines (useless) or billions for a vaccine for 58 deaths (useless)

 

...actually the vaccine is for the other 65million people...not the 58 dead ones.

[Ketyo]

Maybe the economy is tanking so fast they don't have enough money to manufacture a vaccine. Or maybe they spent the money on something weird to keep the military supporting them. Like submarines.

[Thungrat]

There is already a vaccine in Russia. Why don´t take that?

[M71]

Can submarines get COVID-1984 ?

 

Could always test it on those.

[Iron Tongue]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand’s cabinet on Tuesday approved a budget of 1 billion baht ($31.8 million) for vaccines, 60% of which would be invested in Oxford University’s vaccine programme and the remainder in its domestic programme.

1 billion baht.  60% will be spent to import real, clinically verified vaccine, 40% to make 'disappeared' under research expenses.

When the real vaccine arrives, who'll remember to ask about the local vaccine?