Thailand delays human testing for coronavirus vaccine

[JaneM]

Creating a vaccine for a "virus" (never been isolated btw) that has a survival rate of more than 99%

 

58 people died on a total population of 66 million (Thailand numbers)

 

Makes perfect sense...

 

And no, the curfew, closing lots of businesses, mouth masks, temperature police and closing of the whole country didn't help to limited the possible deaths. 

 

It's all a load of BS! You don't agree? Look at Sweden and South-Dakota, their doing just fine.

[Raphus]

Well, they could spend that money to make a small Production  plant and start to produce their own vaccine, that would be a good use of the money. Then they could also start taking orders as well and have some income from it.

[Max69xl]

16 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

How could they test a vaccine (phase 3) when they have no Covid. Maybe that's why they want to open borders to tourists.

The vaccine isn't developed and manufactured in Thailand. It will be tested by the manufacturer, most likely AstraZeneca. It seems like the  Thai Government doesn't realize how long time it takes do the 3 test stages incl. evaluation. AstraZeneca won't rush it just because some governments are screaming for it. 

[Donga]

15 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

It is a specialized production and this is a common situation with lead batches. You cannot just make a vaccine overnight. It requires a plant, trained personnel  and support infrastructure. Thailand is in the same  situation as Australia, and Canada and many other countries.  The active ingredients come from India or China and Thailand is in line with everyone else.

 

Thailand's professionals have already stated that it will take 12-18 months before a Covid19 vaccine will be ready in Thailand. This is no secret and they have said that the timeline is optimistic.

 

Please listen to the explanation from Dr. Somchaiya Surichan, Director of Biologicals Research Group, Thailand GPO. She is a wonderful and qualified professional. Her honesty  integrity is obvious.  

 

 

Thanks for a sensible summary of the situation among all the usual snipes and cheap shots.

Bewildering forum often and suggest there could be a designation for people that can't stand living here, but somehow can't leave, regardless of Covid. Seems to be a fair proportion ????

 

 

 

 

[PETERTHEEATER]

16 hours ago, Surelynot said:

22bn would buy a fair amount of capacity........but 'we' need those submarines so very urgently.

Don't be flippant. Have you seen the damage a torpedo can do to one of those hairy orange ball Covid bugs?

[jerolamo]

Big business on the way to failed again...

Mai pen araaaaiiii..... mai pen araaaaiiiii...

 

Now, open the door please ! there is no danger, people start to understand what is the deal...

[jerolamo]

3 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

with very experienced  well supplied and monetised systems producing vaccines thru UK USA and france which will be available to the public with a month or 2 go with that .why waste time and money yourselves when the expertise isnt there,or use big brothers in beijing.the UK french and US versions will be accepted internationally too no ones wants anything to do with china.for a multitude of reasons.

yes, but they never learn a lesson. They want cheeeeeeeap cheeeeap and sale expensive (and will make this an obligation), never mind if it doesn't works really.

 

Just business in fact, they absolutely don't care there own population. And everybody see that.

[Surelynot]

Just now, jerolamo said:

yes, but they never learn a lesson. They want cheeeeeeeap cheeeeap and sale expensive (and will make this an obligation), never mind if it doesn't works really.

 

Just business in fact, they absolutely don't care there own population. And everybody see that.

Thais always do it better anyway......can't trust these damned foreigners to get anything right.

[Patts]

3 hours ago, Thungrat said:

There is already a vaccine in Russia. Why don´t take that?

 

The Russian vaccine was approved before it had even gone through phase 3 trails, how safe would that be?

 

Edited August 27, 2020 by Patts

[jerolamo]

3 hours ago, DLock said:

 

...actually the vaccine is for the other 65million people...not the 58 dead ones.

yes, 65 Bn will have to apply because of 58 people who die. Strange logic...

 

But really, i agree that it can not have only 58 who die because of COVID in Thailand, the number of death is strangely superior than other years... and if you don't test, you don't know... but they speak like they know something, sure.

 

It is something very new in the world ! But what is not new is the corruption and the business abusive stories from powerful people in a kind of free market world.

[RichardColeman]

18 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

So they are spending billions of baht on developing a vaccine but will have no means to produce it?

No, they are spending billions on a committee talking about it, to then send it abroad to develop it with whats left of the money

[Patts]

2 hours ago, JaneM said:

Creating a vaccine for a "virus" (never been isolated btw) that has a survival rate of more than 99%

 

58 people died on a total population of 66 million (Thailand numbers)

 

Makes perfect sense...

 

And no, the curfew, closing lots of businesses, mouth masks, temperature police and closing of the whole country didn't help to limited the possible deaths. 

 

It's all a load of BS! You don't agree? Look at Sweden and South-Dakota, their doing just fine.

What a load of BS

 

Virus was isolated by the Chinese back in February and the DNA code provided to labs around the world to start working on vaccines. No one, not even scientists know the true mortality rate of COVID19 because it various so greatly from one country to another as do the standards to calculate rates of infection etc so how can you possibly claim "has a survival rate of more than 99%".

 

Hilarious that you use Sweden as an example when they failed massively with 575 deaths per 1 million, one of the highest rates out of the 213 infected countries and 87,000 infected in a country of only 10 million people. Sweden has had more cases per capita than UK, Spain, France, india, Mexico etc who have all been mocked for their infection rates/deaths. 

[jerolamo]

21 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Thais always do it better anyway......can't trust these damned foreigners to get anything right.

yes sure...

Like all these motorcycles and agricultural machines which they say are made in Thailand when they are, in reality, made in China (and sometimes assembled in Thailand) and of which they add incredible value.
And like all those construction workers who come from Laos, Burma, Vietnam and who work very hard on construction sites (and who work well).

What is the best from Thailand is the food they do so good and the way of thinking and apply the humans relations in the deep country.

I hope for this to never disappear. For the other, there is a lot to learn about from... well, history know where the knowledge is coming from for each special things we would talking about. There is no secret around what is the best for each cultural practice to learn about.

[jerolamo]

15 minutes ago, Patts said:

What a load of BS

 

Virus was isolated by the Chinese back in February and the DNA code provided to labs around the world to start working on vaccines. No one, not even scientists know the true mortality rate of COVID19 because it various so greatly from one country to another as do the standards to calculate rates of infection etc so how can you possibly claim "has a survival rate of more than 99%".

 

Hilarious that you use Sweden as an example when they failed massively with 575 deaths per 1 million, one of the highest rates out of the 213 infected countries and 87,000 infected in a country of only 10 million people. Sweden has had more cases per capita than UK, Spain, France, india, Mexico etc who have all been mocked for their infection rates/deaths. 

yes sure. It show the reality of this virus pandemic panic for what it is really.

All of these story for 0.575 death per thousand people.

We should be able to compare to any other virus we already have from long time and who never make this panic happened because of that.

[Patts]

1 hour ago, jerolamo said:

yes sure. It show the reality of this virus pandemic panic for what it is really.

All of these story for 0.575 death per thousand people.

We should be able to compare to any other virus we already have from long time and who never make this panic happened because of that.

Nope that's not what it shows. While Sweden didn't have a lockdown they did follow social distancing and hygiene which no doubt reduced the spread of the virus and government tests show that only 6% of the population have antibodies so without these measures far more people would have been infected and died.   The States for Sweden show that out of 87,000 confirmed cases, 5800 have died which if the figures are accurate gives a mortality rate of 6.6% which is far higher then "any other virus"

[steevjee]

The logical answer is that they got in too late, far better to jump off now and save funds as others are on the brink of production after serious and positive testing results.

Enough of all this negative crud people, this bug is soon to be gone from our lives, but I pity those who wont get vaccinated, no travel for a while for them 

[Skeptic7]

Shocker...NOT. 

[Dmitry2222]

7 hours ago, Patts said:

 

The Russian vaccine was approved before it had even gone through phase 3 trails, how safe would that be?

They plan to complete last clinical trials involving more than 40,000 people and start mass production of the vaccine in September 2020.

https://sputnikvaccine.com/about-vaccine/clinical-trials/

[bodga]

7 hours ago, Patts said:

who have all been mocked for their infection rates/deaths. 

glad  some  find  it  funny  then

[bodga]

On 8/26/2020 at 9:53 PM, geriatrickid said:

It is a specialized production and this is a common situation with lead batches. You cannot just make a vaccine overnight. It requires a plant, trained personnel  and support infrastructure. Thailand is in the same  situation as Australia, and Canada and many other countries.  The active ingredients come from India or China and Thailand is in line with everyone else.

 

Thailand's professionals have already stated that it will take 12-18 months before a Covid19 vaccine will be ready in Thailand. This is no secret and they have said that the timeline is optimistic.

 

Please listen to the explanation from Dr. Somchaiya Surichan, Director of Biologicals Research Group, Thailand GPO. She is a wonderful and qualified professional. Her honesty  integrity is obvious.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

maybe  they  should  tell  her  those  plastic face  shields  dont  work

[Dumbastheycome]

The  sad attempts at constant negativity dressed as  humor are as  boring as  Benny Hill's  innuendo.

He died  alone and sad  too !

[kiwikeith]

On 8/27/2020 at 1:38 AM, Surelynot said:

22bn would buy a fair amount of capacity........but 'we' need those submarines so very urgently.

 

The Subs are to protect the enlightened ones in the event of an emergency by staying submerged they will not catch covid, when air runs low the enlightened one will order the Sub to produce more. 

 

 

 

[AndrewMciver]

On 8/26/2020 at 2:13 PM, Boomer6969 said:

How could they test a vaccine (phase 3) when they have no Covid. Maybe that's why they want to open borders to tourists.

 

They will test it abroad. 

 

The UK vaccine is being tested in Brazil and the USA.